At last I bought the full transalation of Futux Al Xabasha

[X.Playa]

What a usless book, there was so much hype and when i bought it.. it was nothing but a silly choronicals based on a second hand narrations.

1- confusion of somali clans

2- confusion of somali clan cheifs

3- treating the somali as a mercenaries, who are sometimes raided and corced into the so called jihaad by the so called Imaam raiding the somalis and putting their land a waste.

[Advocatar]

because you didnt find what you wanted to see eh?, anyways instead of buying it, you couldve checked it out from your local library and returned it.

[Unclebin-]

[quote="X.Playa"]What a usless book, there was so much hype and when i bought it.. it was nothing but a silly choronicals based on a second hand narrations.

1- confusion of somali clans

2- confusion of somali clan cheifs

3- treating the somali as a mercenaries, who are sometimes raided and corced into the so called jihaad by the so called Imaam raiding the somalis and putting their land a waste.[/quote]

You don't believe in Jihad because you were raped by a saudi man as a child you arab hating bastard.aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawqaqqqqq

[fagash_killer]

did they mixed habaryoonis with ogaden

[Xplosive]

Confusion of Somali clans? Be more specific.

[X.Playa]

adv,

Dumb silly litttle boy not all books are found on the local silly libararies, and yes i bought it to verfiy the somali myth, in particular your Mareexaan Kuumbo claim that the so called Imaam was Maxamed Afweyne's clan, and there was nothing in that book claimed anything close to that.

So i did find what i was looking for , but the book is usless on all other scholarly standards , and its far from been objective about anything.

[Advocatar]

Listen you old retarded fuk, All libararies share books, I got mine from the local lib via san fransisco. I am pretty sure, same thing applies to Canada too, anyways I can see your bitter to the red meat though, didnt find the great habar yonis wariors slashing throats etc eh?

[Gedo_Boy]

I bought mine from a Xabasha bookstore

Marexaan were up in the jihad, but they were a little lazy at first

[Voltage]

[quote="Advocatar"]Listen you old retarded fuk, All libararies share books, I got mine from the local lib via san fransisco. I am pretty sure, same thing applies to Canada too, anyways I can see your bitter to the red meat though, didnt find the great habar yonis wariors slashing throats etc eh? [/quote]


I swear to god I like the new Advo.

[X.Playa]

Avd,

Listen Duufle don't make me slap you with my thrid foot fool, the fantasy that the Imaam was Mareexaan is no where to be found in the book, and yes indeed not only Habar Yoonis but 70% of Isaaq were there in the book.

Where I can find the book or don't wasn't the point kido, any serious collecter of somali history rather buy his books then borrow it from the local libarary like a little girl doing her highschool homework.

If you read the book , lets see what you find that contradict my critical review.

Not long ago all the Maro Xaar childern were golating about Warsam's thread proving that the Imaam was a Maro Xaar, well too bad the book states only that the Maro Xaar and Yibbiers were nothing but the archers during the campign and when the sawyed the so called Imaam whoop their arses back into the Jihaad. The Maro Xaar were nothing but a theifing rascals in search of booty, no more no less.

For those of you who were cheering Warsame, lets see on what facts his claim were based upon?

[Voltage]

Fatax Al Xabasha is not the what we used. Fatax Al Xabasha correlates with the research done by Warsame as it also proofs that Mareexaan were one of the main components of the Imam's campaign if not the leaders.


Imam Ahmed Gurey is recorded as being the uncle of the Emir who succeeded him, Emiir Nuur.

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In this biography of Emiir Nuur, his clan and therefore the clan of his family including his uncle Imam Ahmed Gurey is recorded. It also shows that he inherited the Imam's wife (Dumaalay) meaning he they shared the same qabiil, so by uncle not meaning "abti" but "adeer".

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After so much arguing the puzzle is solved simply and one group who knew all of this based on oral history now have written history on their side.


If you want to question this information, you are more than welcome to check up on these sources starting with the Cambridge History of Africa. They are all in your university library, so go ahead and read for once!

The bibliography:

1. R.Basset (editor, Histoire de la conquete de l’Abyssinie (“History of the Conquest of Abyssinia”), Paris, 1897-1901;

2. Dr. E. Cerulli, “Documenti arabi per la storia dell’Ethiopia,” Memoria della Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Vol. 4, No. 2, Rome, 1931

3. Dr. E. Cerulli, La lingua e la storia di Harar (“The Language and History of Harar”), Rome, 1936

4. Dr. E. Cerulli, “Gli Emiri di Harar dal secolo XVI alla conquista agiziana” (“The Mirs of Harar From the 16th Century to the Egyptian Conquest”),

5. Dr. E. Cerulli, Rassegna di Studi Ethiopici, Vol. 2, Rome, 1942

6. Hadj Yusuf AbdulRahman (editor), Kitab Rabi’a al-Qulub fi Dhikr Manaqib wa Fada’il Sayyidina as Sheikh Nur Hussein (“The Springtime of Hearts in Memory of the Virtues and Merits of Our Lord the Sheikh Nur Hussein”), Cairo, 1927

7. J. Spencer Trimingham, Islam in Ethiopia, London, 1952

8. K. Wndt, “Amharische Geschichte eines Emirs von Harar in XVI Jahrhundert,” (“An Ahmhari History of One of the Emirs of 16th Century of Harar”), Orientalia, Vol. 6, No. ¾, Rome, 1937

[Voltage]

Now again, Imam Nuur was just as illustrious as the Ahmed Gurey, did everything he did including capture and behead the Ethiopian emporer who killed Ahmed Gurey. He is proven to be Marehan, a nephew of the Imam, and the man who inherited the Imam's wife. In all Eastern societies, the only man who can inherit the wife (Dumaal is the Somali term) is the closest relative to the deceased husband who shares the same lineage as him (ina adeer). No concept exists of a man inheriting his Abti's wife, which strictly means Imam Nuur as a nephew of the Imam is the son of the Imam's brother or cousin who shared the same lineage as him. This means since Emir Nuur is proven to be Mareexaan, then Imam Ahmed Gurey, who is the same clan as the man who inherited his wife, is Mareexaan. This is the Islamic and Somali/Eastern practice.

This in conjunction with the importance of Mareexaan in the Imam's campaign as is apparent even in the Futaxa Al Habesha is more then proof enough of the imam's lineage. However, this is not to say only Mareexaan participated in the campaign, as the Geri Koombe, Harti, Habar Magaadle, and many Somali/Muslims were part of the campaign.

[Shirib]

Are we doing the what clan Ahmed Gurey is from again.

Ok if I kept it a secret here it is Ahmed Gurey was GELADI.

You guys happy now, he spoke af maay too.

[Xplosive]

His somaliness is questioned by most non-Somalis, so arguing about whether he was from qabiil a or qabiil b is stupid.

[Voltage]

Shirib, do you know I was just looking for old manucripts and found out about the Geladi Sultanate? You guys basically ruled over all the land between the Jubba and Shabelle river today.