Harsh But True:
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Harsh But True:
Here's the thing, no matter where somalis in general decide to live, they follow the law, the try to fit in and act like citizens, when the white man says something and tells them to do something specificaly, they do it. now, substitute the white man with a somali man, they become aggressive and threatening & sometimes lazy focks. sometimes you kind of wonder, colonialism might have been better for these people.
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Re: Harsh But True:
The last part isn't true.
Re: Harsh But True:
So true... were conditioned to respect and obey the white man...Havent you ever seen Somalis in a somali gathering, pure chaos but once a white person comes through everyone is silent... you might even here a few of them say silent everyone dont shame us infront of the gaalo... 
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Re: Harsh But True:
[quote="The-Screw"]Here's the thing, no matter where somalis in general decide to live, they follow the law, the try to fit in and act like citizens, when the white man says something and tells them to do something specificaly, they do it. now, substitute the white man with a somali man, they become aggressive and threatening & sometimes lazy focks. sometimes you kind of wonder, colonialism might have been better for these people.[/quote]
I don't think it is a matter of "white man" man telling because Somalis live in many non-White areas like the Middle East and even African countries like Kenya, South Africa, Tanzania, etc and still respect the law like the ones who moved to the West.
So your points do not correlate. This is a complex thing and many factors are taken into consideration when trying to analyze the differences in how Somalis act when alone in Somalia and how they act outside of the country. White has nothing to do with anything.
I don't think it is a matter of "white man" man telling because Somalis live in many non-White areas like the Middle East and even African countries like Kenya, South Africa, Tanzania, etc and still respect the law like the ones who moved to the West.
So your points do not correlate. This is a complex thing and many factors are taken into consideration when trying to analyze the differences in how Somalis act when alone in Somalia and how they act outside of the country. White has nothing to do with anything.
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Re: Harsh But True:
[quote="Alchemist"]So true... were conditioned to respect and obey the white man...Havent ever seen Somalis in a somali gathering, pure chaos but once a white person comes through everyone is silent... you might even here a few of them say silent everyone dont shame us infront of the gaalo...
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Did you even understand and comprehend clearly what Screw put forth? And indeed Somalis like majority ancient Eastern societies are honor based so you can understand their obsession with "saving face" when amongst ALL foreigners not just white. Of course it is not extreme as say Middle easterners who kill their girls for fraternalizing with a guy, but we are still clearly honor based society and this should be expected. Again, it has nothing to do with White.
Did you even understand and comprehend clearly what Screw put forth? And indeed Somalis like majority ancient Eastern societies are honor based so you can understand their obsession with "saving face" when amongst ALL foreigners not just white. Of course it is not extreme as say Middle easterners who kill their girls for fraternalizing with a guy, but we are still clearly honor based society and this should be expected. Again, it has nothing to do with White.
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Re: Harsh But True:
[quote="The-Screw"]Here's the thing, no matter where somalis in general decide to live, they follow the law, the try to fit in and act like citizens, when the white man says something and tells them to do something specificaly, they do it. now, substitute the white man with a somali man, they become aggressive and threatening & sometimes lazy focks. sometimes you kind of wonder, colonialism might have been better for these people.[/quote]
this only applies to the anarchic monsters of everything south of gaalkacyo
stop generalizing somalis, djiboutians, somalilanders and puntlanders follow the law in their homeland
this only applies to the anarchic monsters of everything south of gaalkacyo
stop generalizing somalis, djiboutians, somalilanders and puntlanders follow the law in their homeland
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Re: Harsh But True:
let's be honest, the white man has everything to do with it. somalis are scared of white people, specially a white person in uniform or government offical ah, they don't have the same amount of respect and tolerance for a somali person in the same position. i don't know what it is, pride maybe, it'll be the death of the Somali race, it already killed Somalia.
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Re: Harsh But True:
[quote="The-Screw"]let's be honest, the white man has everything to do with it. somalis are scared of white people, specially a white person in uniform or government offical ah, they don't have the same amount of respect and tolerance for a somali person in the same position. i don't know what it is, pride maybe, it'll be the death of the Somali race, it already killed Somalia.[/quote]
Ridiculous, seems like you are frustrated about something we cannot see but based on my experience I shoot down your argument.
If comparing Somali and a White in uniform here, of course Somalis would naturally relate to and expect solidarity from the Somali so that leads them to address the Somali in more familiar terms despite the seperation as opposed to the strict professionalism they would address the non-Somali (in any situation in any country or continent Somalis live).
We should be above simplistic thinking.
Ridiculous, seems like you are frustrated about something we cannot see but based on my experience I shoot down your argument.
If comparing Somali and a White in uniform here, of course Somalis would naturally relate to and expect solidarity from the Somali so that leads them to address the Somali in more familiar terms despite the seperation as opposed to the strict professionalism they would address the non-Somali (in any situation in any country or continent Somalis live).
We should be above simplistic thinking.
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Re: Harsh But True:
Even going back to history, our forefathers were the only group who were not mentally colonized by the Europeans and indeed it was the Europeans who thought it was strange that Somalis continued to think of themselves as superior to whites.
Re: Harsh But True:
[quote="Voltage"][quote="Alchemist"]So true... were conditioned to respect and obey the white man...Havent ever seen Somalis in a somali gathering, pure chaos but once a white person comes through everyone is silent... you might even here a few of them say silent everyone dont shame us infront of the gaalo...
[/quote]
Did you even understand and comprehend clearly what Screw put forth? And indeed Somalis like majority ancient Eastern societies are honor based so you can understand their obsession with "saving face" when amongst ALL foreigners not just white. Of course it is not extreme as say Middle easterners who kill their girls for fraternalizing with a guy, but we are still clearly honor based society and this should be expected. Again, it has nothing to do with White.[/quote]
No i think you didnt comprehend what screw put forth.. Just read what he wrote the second time and you'll see he agrees with me.. Havent you seen how somalis behave infront of a white person... Now replace that with any other race... Is not only somalis that have this problem but all black people.. When it comes to whites we have a hate and respect relationship... Ofcouse this does not mean all somalis behave this way....
Did you even understand and comprehend clearly what Screw put forth? And indeed Somalis like majority ancient Eastern societies are honor based so you can understand their obsession with "saving face" when amongst ALL foreigners not just white. Of course it is not extreme as say Middle easterners who kill their girls for fraternalizing with a guy, but we are still clearly honor based society and this should be expected. Again, it has nothing to do with White.[/quote]
No i think you didnt comprehend what screw put forth.. Just read what he wrote the second time and you'll see he agrees with me.. Havent you seen how somalis behave infront of a white person... Now replace that with any other race... Is not only somalis that have this problem but all black people.. When it comes to whites we have a hate and respect relationship... Ofcouse this does not mean all somalis behave this way....
Last edited by Alchemist on Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Harsh But True:
[quote="Alchemist"][quote="Voltage"][quote="Alchemist"]So true... were conditioned to respect and obey the white man...Havent ever seen Somalis in a somali gathering, pure chaos but once a white person comes through everyone is silent... you might even here a few of them say silent everyone dont shame us infront of the gaalo...
[/quote]
Did you even understand and comprehend clearly what Screw put forth? And indeed Somalis like majority ancient Eastern societies are honor based so you can understand their obsession with "saving face" when amongst ALL foreigners not just white. Of course it is not extreme as say Middle easterners who kill their girls for fraternalizing with a guy, but we are still clearly honor based society and this should be expected. Again, it has nothing to do with White.[/quote]
No i think you didnt comprehend what screw put forth.. Just read what he wrote the second time and you'll see he agrees with me.. Havent you seen how somalis behave infront of a white person... Now replace that with a any other race...[/quote]
Re-read everything, you did not comprehend what Screw was implying. Of course you agreed with Screw, but you did not truly understand what he was implying and how erroneous it was as well as the wholes in his argument.
Again, I am above simplistic back and forths.
Did you even understand and comprehend clearly what Screw put forth? And indeed Somalis like majority ancient Eastern societies are honor based so you can understand their obsession with "saving face" when amongst ALL foreigners not just white. Of course it is not extreme as say Middle easterners who kill their girls for fraternalizing with a guy, but we are still clearly honor based society and this should be expected. Again, it has nothing to do with White.[/quote]
No i think you didnt comprehend what screw put forth.. Just read what he wrote the second time and you'll see he agrees with me.. Havent you seen how somalis behave infront of a white person... Now replace that with a any other race...[/quote]
Re-read everything, you did not comprehend what Screw was implying. Of course you agreed with Screw, but you did not truly understand what he was implying and how erroneous it was as well as the wholes in his argument.
Again, I am above simplistic back and forths.
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Re: Harsh But True:
^^^
screw is right, but the real question is can the somalis set up their own laws and follow? for example can they have a government in somalia, rule themselves and obey their own somali laws? no. the reason they obey white laws is they scared of the white man will deport their black asses back to the refugee camps they came from.
screw is right, but the real question is can the somalis set up their own laws and follow? for example can they have a government in somalia, rule themselves and obey their own somali laws? no. the reason they obey white laws is they scared of the white man will deport their black asses back to the refugee camps they came from.
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Re: Harsh But True:
i'm not implying anything here, i'm stating facts, everything that i wrote down, i've seen it in person and it's sad.
Re: Harsh But True:
voltage..
War how stupid can this kid be... War hoyda was even your your uncle Sayid Barre used to look up to the white man hence he ruled by their laws and not the sharia.. That also let him to believe killing the sheiks was a good thing....
War how stupid can this kid be... War hoyda was even your your uncle Sayid Barre used to look up to the white man hence he ruled by their laws and not the sharia.. That also let him to believe killing the sheiks was a good thing....
Re: Harsh But True:
it's not necessarily about the white man b/c they wouldn't follow white man's orders in their own country but this is not their country.
it's the same w/ everybody....you mess w/ those you are comfortable with.
do you scratch your balls in the office? no you do it @ home.
it's the same w/ everybody....you mess w/ those you are comfortable with.
do you scratch your balls in the office? no you do it @ home.
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