A warning to bani munafiqen

[Somali_4Life]

apostacy in islam

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here's what the real scholars have to say:

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do u remember the famous hadith in Sahih Bukhari?

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hadrat Muaz (ra) wouldn't get off his horse until Abu Musa Ashari killed an apostate that he tied up.

also, if you read the book of S.A. Rahman the fuqaha have differed regarding istitabah (calling for repentance). Imam Abu hanifa rahimallahu a'lay said for example that this was not obligatory and that the person should be put to death unless he himself asks for consideration in wich case 3 days grace period would be allowed to him. Imam Malik on the other hand considered a demand for taubah to be obligatory.

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From Sufyan al-thauri the tradition has been handed down that the oppurtunity for repentance should extend over the lifetime of the delinquent, and this was also the opinion of ibrahim al-nakha'i who was the teacher of the teacher of imam abu hanifa. Ibn al-qudamah (al-mughni, vol VIII, p. 125) interprets this dictum of al-Naika'i to mean that the apostate can never be killed (la yuqtal abadan)


Imam Tirmidhi, Imam Abu Dawood and Imam Ibn Maajah rahimahumullah include the Hadeeth "man baddala deenahu faqtuluh" (The one who changes his Deen, kill him) in the Kitaab ul Hudood of their sunan.

The difference between hadd and Ta'zeer is:



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the Hadd is predetermined and the Ta'zir is delegated {Radd al-Muhtar}

any punishment which has been determined is Hadd, it does not have to be "prescribed in the Quran".

lastly the claim that the Hadd punishment was never imposed on a non-muharib by the salaf, is wrong, in this same hadeeth




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There occurs:

`Ali may Allah be pleased with him burned a group of people and this news reached Ibn `Abbaas, who said, "It it were me I wouldn't have burned them, as the Prophet Sallallaahu `alyhi wa Sallam said "Do not punish with Allah's punishment" but I would have killed them according to the saying of the Prophet Sallallaahu `alyhi wa sallam "He who changes his Deen, kill him.

in Fath ul Bari it has been narrated that these people were Zanadiqah, who used to do shirk in secret and outwardly appear to be Muslims.

these people were not rebels who had raised arms against `Ali Radhi Allaahu `anhu.

[snm_soulja_18]

somali would you kill the lady if you had the change?

[Somali_4Life]

I would demand the islamic state to execute my son or daughter if they change from religion.If they dont,then i have to carry it on myself.

[Metal]

So now religion is a pillar of tribal fanaticism and barbarism? You skinnies should whack each other's heads off with machetes and rifles but please don't use religion as fuel; just go back to your play holes and do as you please -- in quiet.

[Luq_Ganane]

Metal,

Actually this is just a little phase HG have been going through lately. you get the impression that they became Muslims in'06 while Somalis have been Muslims for centuries.

[AbdiWahab252]

[quote="Luq_Ganane"]Metal,

Actually this is just a little phase HG have been going through lately. you get the impression that they became Muslims in'06 while Somalis have been Muslims for centuries. [/quote]


Luq,

General Caydiid (AUN) must be credited for returning the Marexan back to the Masjid and away from the kufar lifestyle under Siyaad Barre (AUN).

[Ashlee]

dumb hawiyes.

[Somali_4Life]

[quote="Luq_Ganane"]Metal,

Actually this is just a little phase HG have been going through lately. you get the impression that they became Muslims in'06 while Somalis have been Muslims for centuries. [/quote]
I see this as compliment because there are people(faqash)who left islam on the same day we entered islam.

[Luq_Ganane]

Somali4life,

Just do 'Mubaahala with the rejector' on them, and you'll be good

[Metal]

God, Clan, and Lamagodleys; a toxic mix.

[El Loco]

"If they dont,then i have to carry it on myself."

Somai
There is nothing in Islamic Jurisprudence that allows for vigilantiism.

[Advocatar]

Religion has nothing to do with what's happening in somalia.......

so dont use it, it doesnt suite you.