Rebellion against rulers

[Hassan_Al_Basri01]

Ibn al-Qayyim (rahimull?h) said, “Rebelling against the kings and rulers is the basis of all evil and fitnah until the end of time – whoever contemplates on what has happened to Islam historically with respect to fitnah, whether major or minor, will recognise its connection to this fundamental problem i.e. that to resist the evil (authority) leads to an evil worse than it, and that the lack of patience with that evil and the seeking of its removal produces a problem even worse than in the first place. The Messenger of Allah (sallall?hu ‘alayhi wa sallam) witnessed the greatest of evils in Makkah yet he was not able to change it; indeed when Allah opened up Makkah and made it D?r’l-Isl?m, he (the Prophet (sallall?hu ‘alayhi wa sallam)) was determined to change the Ka‘bah back to the original foundations of Ibrah?m but he did not despite being able to do so, fearing creating a situation even worse with the possibility that the Quraysh would not be able to handle it due to their newness to Islam and their recent departure from kufr. Thus, it is not allowed to rise up against the leaders due to the consequences that result, which is even worse than before, as is well known…” (Turuq’l-H?kimiyyah)

Hassan al basri (ra)said the following:
Hasan al-Basri (rahimull?h) also said about the king of all tyrant oppressors, Hajj?j b. Y?suf, “Have no doubt, Hajj?j is the Punishment of Allah; don’t try to repel the punishment of Allah with your hands, rather you must humble yourselves and have humility because Allah, the Most High, says, “We have already seized them with punishment, but they did not turn humble to their Lord, nor do they supplicate in humility,” (al-Mu’min?n, 76)

Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimull?h) mentions in his Majm?‘ a key point that we often forget when we think about revolting against the government, namely that the Prophet (sallall?hu ‘alayhi wa sallam) highly praised his grandson Hasan (radhy All?hu ‘anhu) for the fact that he would mediate and unite the Muslims by the Will of Allah, without rebellion. Yet, he (sallall?hu ‘alayhi wa sallam) never praised at all the actions of those who fight during times of fitnah, nor rebelling against the evil ruler, nor withdrawing allegiance to the ruler nor splitting away from the Jam?‘ah of the Muslims.

Indeed, remember that the Prophet (sallall?hu ‘alayhi wa sallam) informed Abu Hurayrah (radhy All?hu ‘anhu) of the secret “two containers of knowledge”, and even though we are sure that this information was about the later rulers to come and the evil that would result from them and those that fought against them, Abu Hurayrah still didn’t command the Muslims to fight these rulers despite knowing all their identities. Why? Because he knew that the Prophet (sallall?hu ‘alayhi wa sallam) didn’t want to establish such a precedent, and Abu Hurayrah knew that the evil that would result would be far worse than what he’d been told about as it was.

And why do we assume that Abu Hurayrah knew the identities of the people that would be involved in this fitnah? Why from history itself. Im?m al-Dhahabi (rahimull?h) narrates from ‘Ubayd b. Sa‘?d that he entered Masjid al-Har?m with Ibn ‘Amr (radhy All?hu ‘anhum?) and they found the Ka‘bah burning after it had been caught in the middle of a battle from the army of Husayn b. Nam?r. Ibn ‘Amr stopped and started to weep, so much so that the tears flowed over his cheeks and then he shouted, “O People! By Allah, if Abu Hurayrah had told you that you would kill the grandson of your Prophet and that you would burn the House of your Lord, then you would have said: there is no bigger liar than Abu Hurayrah! But you have indeed done that – so wait now for the anger of Allah to befall us…” (al-Siyar, 3/94)

When the people wanted to rebel with Ibn al-Muhallab during the time of Hasan al-Basri (rahimull?h), he advised them to stay in their homes and lock their doors and then said, “By Allah, if the people are put to trial by their leaders and yet remain patient with that, Allah ‘azza wa jall will lift that trial from them; (those who didn’t have patience) ran to the sword and they were eventually overtaken by it. I swear by Allah, they did not bring a single day of good whatsoever! Then he recited, “And the sublime word of your Lord was fulfilled for the children of Isr?’?l, because they stood patient; and We destroyed what Pharaoh and his people used to build and what they used to raise high.”” (al-A‘r?f, 137)

Even when Islam was being tested with the most dangerous of trials such as the introduction to orthodox Islamic theology of the “created Qur’an deviation”, Im?m Ahmad b. Hanbal (rahimull?h) stood and refuted the concept but never lead the people in revolt against the deviant ruler. When his companions came to him to urge him to do so against al-W?thiq, he replied, “Condemn their belief in your hearts but remain obedient to them and do not break the unity of the Muslims; don’t shed your own blood and the blood of the Muslims with you, rather look to the consequences of your actions and have patience…” (Ad?b’l-Shar?‘ah, Ibn al-Muflih and Al-Mihnat’l-Im?m Ahmad, 70-72)

Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimull?h) said, “From the key principles of Ahl’l-Sunnah wa’l Jam?‘ah is to keep (united) with the Muslim Community and to leave fighting the rulers during fitnah. As for the people of desires, such as the Mu‘tazilah, they see rebelling against and fighting the rulers from the very principles of their Deen…”

To be from Ahl’l-Sunnah is to live the ideals and to apply them as much as possible in every aspect of life that we can. We do this by preserving our unity, agreeing on the key basics and moving forward to maintain our collective strength until we deserve a better political condition and rulers. At this moment in time, it is a minor miracle that we are still able to worship Allah at all – maybe someone is making istighf?r for us somewhere.

Perhaps, as the sounds of the fun and games of Guy Fawkes fireworks start to fade away, and we realise that the sounds of missiles and gunfire increases with the loss of innocent life in the Muslim lands, we’ll start to call ourselves and our people to those defining characteristics of Ahl’l-Sunnah wa’l-Jam?‘ah in times of fitnah such as maintaining unity, not rebelling against our governments and having patience. May Allah jalla wa ‘al? give us all ability to do that, am?n.

[Koronto91]

Another attempt at telling the Muslims to quitely accept oppressive un-Islamic governments. You should've signed at the bottom: "This message has been brought to you by the Saudi manufactured sect known as Salafi Jadiid."

Get outta here with your B.S.! Ibn Zubair (ra) rebelled against the tyranical rule of Yazid Ibn Muawiyah who sent Hajaaj to bomb the Ka'ba. Muslims have every right to depose any oppressive un-Islamic government as long as the alternative is a better option i.e. it is to be replaced with a Shari'ah rule.

[Hassan_Al_Basri01]

Abdirashid Ali Shermarke June 10, 1967 – October 15, 1969-rebelled,killed
Siad Barre -1969 – 1991, rebelled,left somalia
Ali Mahdi Muhammad-1991 – 1995,rebelled
Current ruler Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed-facing rebellion

Hasan al-Basri (R.A) also said about the king of all tyrant oppressors, Hajjaj , “Have no doubt, Hajjaj is the Punishment of Allah; don’t try to repel the punishment of Allah with your hands, rather you must humble yourselves and have humility because Allah, the Most High, says, “We have already seized them with punishment, but they did not turn humble to their Lord, nor do they supplicate in humility,” (al-Mu’min?n, 76)

More rebellion leads to more evil and fitnah.

[Hassan_Al_Basri01]

Hassan al Basri(R.A):
Do not slander the rulers (al-wula), for if they do good, they will be rewarded, and you should be grateful. If they do evil, they will incur the sin [of the deed], and you must show patience. They [the rulers] are God's punishment which God sends upon whomever He wants. Do not meet God's punishment with anger and resistance. Meet God's punishment with acceptance and prayer (Abu Yusuf, Kitab al-Kharaj, p. 10).

[Hyperactive]

[quote="Koronto91"]Another attempt at telling the Muslims to quitely accept oppressive un-Islamic governments. You should've signed at the bottom: "This message has been brought to you by the Saudi manufactured sect known as Salafi Jadiid."

Get outta here with your B.S.! Ibn Zubair (ra) rebelled against the tyranical rule of Yazid Ibn Muawiyah who sent Hajaaj to bomb the Ka'ba. Muslims have every right to depose any oppressive un-Islamic government as long as the alternative is a better option i.e. it is to be replaced with a Shari'ah rule.[/quote]
lol adeer you read my mind.
dadkan wahey maga3an ola ba7enba wa siyasad Saudi rullers ay wadato weyan.
iney dad ka gumeysiga ko wado bey doneysa.
hakim thalim ah wa lala diriri wana wajib in lala diriro o la rido.
don't come here with your selective quoted lagu so hafed siyey.
wahan o maleynaya who7oga riyals ba lagu siyay to say thise rakhees 2 cents.lol

[gurey25]

rebellion against a ruler that is ruling with the shareeca i understand is not advisable.

but anyone else is fair game.

MSB was fair game

[Hassan_Al_Basri01]

[quote="gurey25"]rebellion against a ruler that is ruling with the shareeca i understand is not advisable.

but anyone else is fair game.

MSB was fair game[/quote]

La akhi,our beloved prophet peace be upon him said:
“The best of your leaders are those whom you love and who love you, who pray for you and you pray for them. The worst of your leaders are those whom you hate and who hate you, and you send curses on them and they send curses on you.” He was asked, “O Messenger of Allaah, should we not fight them by the sword?” He said, “Not as long as they are establishing prayer amongst you.”

[Shirib]

If they rule by sharia law you shouldn't oppose them as they are ruling by the rule of Allah and not something they made up.

If they are ruling any other way show them the door.


I'm believing what Koronto said about your kind.

[fisabililah]

assalamu aleykum, you cant rebel against the ruler as long as he rules by shariah.he could be the most disgusting person but if he keeps the shariah in tact he is to be left alone.

but if he doesnt ruler by shariah then lets look at what the scholars say:

firtsly shiekh al islam.

Shaikh ul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah said: "and it is known from the religion (of Islam) by necessity and by the consensus (ijma’a) of all the Muslims that whoever legalizes to follow other than the religion of Islaam or a Shari'ah other than the Shari'ah of Muhammad (sallallahu alayhe wa salam) he is a disbeliever and his disbelief is similar to that of the one who believes in some part of the book (Qur’an) and rejects some of it" [Al-Fataawa, Volume 28, page 524]

Ibn Taymiyyah also said [Al-Fataawa: Volume 28, Pages 510 – 512]: "Every group which rebels against mutawaatir (clear-cut), law of the Islamic Shari'ah must be fought by the consensus (ijmaa) of all the Imaams (leaders) of Muslims, even if they pronounce the Shahaada (declaration of faith). So if they attest the Shahaadah and refuse to perform the five prayers, then they must be fought until they perform them (the prayers). And if they refuse to pay Zakaah, then they must be fought until they pay it, and so must they be (fought) if they refuse to fast in the month of Ramadhan or perform Hajj. Likewise if they refuse to prohibit fawaahish (evil deeds), zina (adultery), maysar (gambling), khamr (wine), and the other things which Shari'ah forbids. Also they must be fought if they refuse to judge between themselves in the affairs of murder, money, honor, marriage and so on by the Qur’an and the Sunnah, or if they abstain from al-amr bil ma’roof wan nahi ‘anil munkar (enjoining good and forbidding evil), fighting the disbelievers until they accept Islam or pay the Jiziah in order to abase the disbelievers. Likewise if they manifest atheism in Allah’s name, belying his verses, his attributes, decree and destiny and what the Jam’ah (group) of Muslims were upon during the time of the rightly guided Khulafaa (plural of Khaleef) or insulting the early Muhajireen (those who migrated to Madinah with the prophet sallallahu alayhe wa salam) and the Ansaar (the Helpers – from the city of Madinah) and those who followed them, or fighting Muslims until they obey them in a way that will cause the Muslims to rebel against the Islamic Shari’ah and the like of these things, Allah (Subhana wa Ta’ala) says:

‘And fight then until there is no fitnah (disbelief and polytheism, worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah (in the whole world)’ [Surat Al-Anfaal: 39]

So if a part of the religion is for Allah and another is for other than him, fighting is obligatory until the religion is for Allah (alone). Allah (subhana wa Ta’ala) says:

‘O you who believe! Fear Allah and give what remains (due to you) from Riba (usury) if you (really) are believers, and if you do not do it, then take a notice of war from Allaah and His Messenger’ [Surat Al-Baqarah: 278/279]

This verse was revealed about ahl at-Taif (the people of Taif) who embraced Islam, prayed and fasted, but they were dealing with usury, which was the final prohibition in the Qur’an and it is money taken by the satisfaction of the dealers. So if the person who does not abstain from it is at war with Allah and Messenger (sallallahu alayhe wa salam); what about those who abandon several Islamic laws or most of them, such as the Tartars?” [Al-Fataawa: Volume 28, Pages 510 – 512]




Al-Haafidh Ibn Katheer said:
"So whoever leaves the clear Shari'ah, which was revealed to Muhammad Ibn Abdullah, the Seal of the Prophets, and takes the Hukm to other than it from the laws of Kufr which are abrogated, he has disbelieved. So what about the one who takes the Hukm to the 'Yasiq' (the law of the Tartars which mixed Shari'ah rulings with invented rulings) and puts it before it?! Whoever does that, he has disbelieved by the Ijmaa' of the Muslims."

"Al-Bidaayah wa Nihaayah", Vol. 13/ 119

Shaikh 'Abdul-'Azeez Ibn 'Abdullaah Ibn Baaz said:
"There is no Eemaan for the one who believes the laws of the people and their opinions are superior to the Hukm of Allah and His Messenger or that they are equal to it or that they resemble it or who leaves it or replaces it with fabricated laws and institutions invented by people, even if he believes that the laws of Allah are more encompassing and more just."
"Risaalat Wujoob Tah'keem Sharee'at Allah' Pg. 39, which follows the "Risaalat Tah'keem Al-Qawaneen" Published by "Daar Al-Muslim"


Shaikh Muhammad Ibn Saalih al-'Uthaymeen said:
"The first type is when the Hukm of Allah is removed and replaced with another Taghuutee Hukm, so that the Hukm of the Shari'ah is eliminated between the people and he puts in its place another Hukm from the fabrication of the humans and they remove the laws of the Shari'ah concerning the Mu'amalah (i. e. the general actions between people) and they put in its place fabricated laws and this, without doubt, is Istib'daal (i. e. replacement) of the Shari'ah of Allah subhaanahuu wa-ta'ala, with other than it. And this is Kufr which removes one from the Milla because this person put himself at the level of the Creator because he shara'a (legislated) for the slaves of Allah that which Allah ta'ala did not give permission for and that is Shirk in His, ta'ala's saying:
"Or have they partners with Allâh (false gods), who have instituted for them a religion, which Allâh has not allowed?" (Ash-Shu'ara, 21)
"Fiqh Al-'Ebaadaat", #60


Shaikh Muhammad Naasiruddin Al-Albaanee:
Who said, in one of his earlier cassette recorded lessons, wherein he is describing an argument he had with someone about the Takfeer of Mustafa Ataturk, the secularist who converted the constitution of Turkey from the Hanafee code Shari'ah, to the man-made laws. So Shaykh Al-Albaanee said:

"I made clear to him (i.e. his opponent) that the Muslims did not make Takfeer to Ataturk who was Muslim. No. (They did so) when he freed himself from Islaam when he implicated upon the Muslims an institution other than the institution of Islaam. And from that was the example of his equalizing between the inheritance of the male and the female. But Allah says according to us, 'And for the male is the share of two females. ' And then he obligated upon the Turkish masses, the Qobah (i. e. a Turkish-style hat)."
"Fataawa Ash-Shaykh al-Albaanee wa-Maqara'netihah bi'Fatawaa Al-'Ulaama", Pg. 263 from his cassette #171.


i can give you more aswell, if you need.

waalaikuma salaam.

[Hassan_Al_Basri01]

Our ruler Abdullahi yusuf cannot rule by shariah because he is facing trouble from rebell groups(may Allah guide them on the right path).
When the war is over,we shall see if he rules by the shariah or not.

[Ican]

Anyone who rebels against the leader Abdullahi Yusuf is in grave danger of commiting sin. May allah(swt) guide them to the right path.

[xoogSADE14]

^ Cayaalkiinaan hadana ma Kitaabkii Allaad cayaar ka dhigateen?

[Shirib]

Muse Sudi, Abdi Qeybdiid, Mohamed Dhere, Mohamed Qanyare, Omar Finnish, Hussein Aideed need to be place back in Xamar given their isbaaros back and allowed to rule. Rebelling against them is haraam and they need to be re-instated and people must support them. Pay the mooryaan the money for the isbaaro and don't complain when they get killed.

These are the real leaders of Xamar whats wrong with these people who no nothing about religion and were rebelling against these lovely leaders.

[Ican]

[quote="Shirib"]Muse Sudi, Abdi Qeybdiid, Mohamed Dhere, Mohamed Qanyare, Omar Finnish, Hussein Aideed need to be place back in Xamar given their isbaaros back and allowed to rule. Rebelling against them is haraam and they need to be re-instated and people must support them. Pay the mooryaan the money for the isbaaro and don't complain when they get killed.

These are the real leaders of Xamar whats wrong with these people who no nothing about religion and were rebelling against these lovely leaders.[/quote]
You have seen the light my friend.

[Shirib]

Ican


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All the MJ's resigned in solidarity against Screw and Beesha Sade why are you still here I thought your name was on the resignation slip.