Invitation to Shabaab & UIC
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Invitation to Shabaab & UIC
Stop your rebellious behavior and fear Allah.
Allah's apostle PBUH said:
“The best of your leaders are those whom you love and who love you, who pray for you and you pray for them. The worst of your leaders are those whom you hate and who hate you, and you send curses on them and they send curses on you.” He was asked, “O Messenger of Allaah, should we not fight them by the sword?” He said, “Not as long as they are establishing prayer amongst you.”
Allah's apostle PBUH said:
“The best of your leaders are those whom you love and who love you, who pray for you and you pray for them. The worst of your leaders are those whom you hate and who hate you, and you send curses on them and they send curses on you.” He was asked, “O Messenger of Allaah, should we not fight them by the sword?” He said, “Not as long as they are establishing prayer amongst you.”
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Re: Invitation to Shabaab & UIC
I real believe what Koronto says about you guys now.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Support this guy he's a real Wadaad of Islam.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Support this guy he's a real Wadaad of Islam.
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Re: Invitation to Shabaab & UIC
I will not support him as long he invites people to rebellion.
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Re: Invitation to Shabaab & UIC
Islamic Sharia must be established in Somalia.
Abdullahi Yusuf has stated numerous times he's against Islam in politics.
Are you against Islamic Shria?
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Abdullahi Yusuf has stated numerous times he's against Islam in politics.
Are you against Islamic Shria?
<<<<<<<<<<<<Support this guy
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Re: Invitation to Shabaab & UIC
A/Y is muslim and he prays. Let the man finish his term. Allah the most great will judge him.
Rebellion leads to more fitan.
The Prophet PBUH said: ‘‘The person must obey in whatever he loves, and in whatever he hates, in ease and in hardship, in willingness and un-willingness; except if he is commanded to disobey Allaah. So if he is commanded to disobey Allaah, then he should not listen, not should he obey.’’ Related by al-Bukhaaree (4/203)
’Umar Ibn Yazeed said: I heard al-Hasan al-Basree during the days of Yazeed Ibnul-Mahlab, and there came to him a group of people. So he commanded them to stay in their houses and to close their doors. Then he said: ‘‘By Allaah! If the people had patience when they were being tested by their unjust ruler, it will not be long before Allaah will make a way out for them. However, they always rush for their swords, so they are left to their swords. By Allaah! Not even for a single say did they bring about any good.’’ It is related by Ibn Sa’d in at-Tabaqaat (8/164), and by Ibn Abee Haatim in his Tafseer (3/178).
[6] Imaam Aboo Bark al-Aajurree (d.360H) - rahimahullaah - said: ‘‘It is not permissible for the one who sees the uprising of a khaarijee who has revolted against the leader, whether he is just or oppressive - so this person has revolted and gathered a group behind him, has pulled out his sword and has made lawful the killing of Muslims - it is not fitting for the one who sees this, that he becomes deceived by this person’s recitation of the Qur‘aan, the length of his standing in Prayer, nor his constant fasting, nor his good and excellent words in knowledge when it is clear to him that this person’s way and methodology is that of the Khawaarij.’’ Refer to ash-Sharee’ah (p. 28).
Our job is to advice this ruler to do good and to avoid evil.
Rebellion leads to more fitan.
The Prophet PBUH said: ‘‘The person must obey in whatever he loves, and in whatever he hates, in ease and in hardship, in willingness and un-willingness; except if he is commanded to disobey Allaah. So if he is commanded to disobey Allaah, then he should not listen, not should he obey.’’ Related by al-Bukhaaree (4/203)
’Umar Ibn Yazeed said: I heard al-Hasan al-Basree during the days of Yazeed Ibnul-Mahlab, and there came to him a group of people. So he commanded them to stay in their houses and to close their doors. Then he said: ‘‘By Allaah! If the people had patience when they were being tested by their unjust ruler, it will not be long before Allaah will make a way out for them. However, they always rush for their swords, so they are left to their swords. By Allaah! Not even for a single say did they bring about any good.’’ It is related by Ibn Sa’d in at-Tabaqaat (8/164), and by Ibn Abee Haatim in his Tafseer (3/178).
[6] Imaam Aboo Bark al-Aajurree (d.360H) - rahimahullaah - said: ‘‘It is not permissible for the one who sees the uprising of a khaarijee who has revolted against the leader, whether he is just or oppressive - so this person has revolted and gathered a group behind him, has pulled out his sword and has made lawful the killing of Muslims - it is not fitting for the one who sees this, that he becomes deceived by this person’s recitation of the Qur‘aan, the length of his standing in Prayer, nor his constant fasting, nor his good and excellent words in knowledge when it is clear to him that this person’s way and methodology is that of the Khawaarij.’’ Refer to ash-Sharee’ah (p. 28).
Our job is to advice this ruler to do good and to avoid evil.
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Re: Invitation to Shabaab & UIC
Subhanallah! These people are predictable. Where do I even begin?
American Salafi,
We see through your lies, just quit it already! No Muslim in their right mind will believe your lies.
American Salafi,
We see through your lies, just quit it already! No Muslim in their right mind will believe your lies.
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Re: Invitation to Shabaab & UIC
Let me guess we shouldn't fight gaalo in Muslims lands either.
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Re: Invitation to Shabaab & UIC
That would have applied to rebellion against mohamed Siad Barre but it can't apply to Abdullahi Yusuf.
You are abusing the sunnah if you use it to defend Abdullahi Yusuf. he is not a leader but a criminal fasiq who should have been killed for starting the recellion against mohamed Siad Barre.
A/y is simply fighting Islam.
You are abusing the sunnah if you use it to defend Abdullahi Yusuf. he is not a leader but a criminal fasiq who should have been killed for starting the recellion against mohamed Siad Barre.
A/y is simply fighting Islam.
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Hassan_Al_Basri01
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Re: Invitation to Shabaab & UIC
O brother(koronto) in religion,your disbelieve is a problem of yours. I provided clear texts from ahadith.
Hudhaifah (ra) reports that the Messenger of Allaah (saw) said "There will come leaders who will not follow my guidance and will not follow my sunnah. There will be amongst them men who will have the hearts of devil and bodies of humans." He (Hudhaifah asked) "What shall I do, o Messenger of Allaah if I reach that?" He replied, "you should hear and obey the ruler even if he flogs your backs and takes your wealth, then still hear and obey." Reported by Muslim (Eng. trans Vol 3/1029/34554)
It is also related by Ibn Sa'ad in Tabaqaatul Kubraa (7/163-165) A group of Muslims came to al Hasan al Basree (d. 110H) seeking a verdict to rebel against al Hajjaaj [3]. So they said, "O Abu Sa'eed! What do you say about fighting this oppressor who has unlawfully spilt blood and unlawfully taken wealth and did this and that?"
So al Hasan said, "I hold that he should not be fought. If this is the punishment from Allah (Ta'aala), then you will not be able to remove it with your swords. If this is a trial from Allah (Ta'aala), then be patient until Allah's Judgement comes, and He is the best of Judges."
Hudhaifah (ra) reports that the Messenger of Allaah (saw) said "There will come leaders who will not follow my guidance and will not follow my sunnah. There will be amongst them men who will have the hearts of devil and bodies of humans." He (Hudhaifah asked) "What shall I do, o Messenger of Allaah if I reach that?" He replied, "you should hear and obey the ruler even if he flogs your backs and takes your wealth, then still hear and obey." Reported by Muslim (Eng. trans Vol 3/1029/34554)
It is also related by Ibn Sa'ad in Tabaqaatul Kubraa (7/163-165) A group of Muslims came to al Hasan al Basree (d. 110H) seeking a verdict to rebel against al Hajjaaj [3]. So they said, "O Abu Sa'eed! What do you say about fighting this oppressor who has unlawfully spilt blood and unlawfully taken wealth and did this and that?"
So al Hasan said, "I hold that he should not be fought. If this is the punishment from Allah (Ta'aala), then you will not be able to remove it with your swords. If this is a trial from Allah (Ta'aala), then be patient until Allah's Judgement comes, and He is the best of Judges."
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Re: Invitation to Shabaab & UIC
Shirib,
Walaahi, these people are a mouth piece for America & their puppet governments throughout the Muslim world. You think "TFG" supporters are dabadhilif? These are worse, because they use Islam to justifty their treachery.
Walaahi, these people are a mouth piece for America & their puppet governments throughout the Muslim world. You think "TFG" supporters are dabadhilif? These are worse, because they use Islam to justifty their treachery.
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Re: Invitation to Shabaab & UIC
here is the truth
TFG is a bunch of blood thirsty warlords and no one will follow them.
ICU bunch of warlords and moryaan who become wadaads overnight
abu mansoor and his shabaab army are ok and true to there words
TFG is a bunch of blood thirsty warlords and no one will follow them.
ICU bunch of warlords and moryaan who become wadaads overnight
abu mansoor and his shabaab army are ok and true to there words
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Re: Invitation to Shabaab & UIC
[quote="Koronto91"]Shirib,
Walaahi, these people are a mouth piece for America & their puppet governments throughout the Muslim world. You think "TFG" supporters are dabadhilif? These are worse, because they use Islam to justifty their treachery.[/quote]
At first I didn't know what these guys were but now I fully believe you.
Walaahi, these people are a mouth piece for America & their puppet governments throughout the Muslim world. You think "TFG" supporters are dabadhilif? These are worse, because they use Islam to justifty their treachery.[/quote]
At first I didn't know what these guys were but now I fully believe you.
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Re: Invitation to Shabaab & UIC
[quote="Lacageylacag"]That would have applied to rebellion against mohamed Siad Barre but it can't apply to Abdullahi Yusuf.
You are abusing the sunnah if you use it to defend Abdullahi Yusuf. he is not a leader but a criminal fasiq who should have been killed for starting the recellion against mohamed Siad Barre.
A/y is simply fighting Islam.[/quote]
A/Y is oppresive ruler chosen by the somali parlemant. He is legimate leader and a muslim.
The pious Salaf denounced rebellion against muslimrulers.
Hudhaifah (ra) reports that the Messenger of Allaah (saw) said "There will come leaders who will not follow my guidance and will not follow my sunnah. There will be amongst them men who will have the hearts of devil and bodies of humans." He (Hudhaifah asked) "What shall I do, o Messenger of Allaah if I reach that?" He replied, "you should hear and obey the ruler even if he flogs your backs and takes your wealth, then still hear and obey." Reported by Muslim (Eng. trans Vol 3/1029/34554)
You are abusing the sunnah if you use it to defend Abdullahi Yusuf. he is not a leader but a criminal fasiq who should have been killed for starting the recellion against mohamed Siad Barre.
A/y is simply fighting Islam.[/quote]
A/Y is oppresive ruler chosen by the somali parlemant. He is legimate leader and a muslim.
The pious Salaf denounced rebellion against muslimrulers.
Hudhaifah (ra) reports that the Messenger of Allaah (saw) said "There will come leaders who will not follow my guidance and will not follow my sunnah. There will be amongst them men who will have the hearts of devil and bodies of humans." He (Hudhaifah asked) "What shall I do, o Messenger of Allaah if I reach that?" He replied, "you should hear and obey the ruler even if he flogs your backs and takes your wealth, then still hear and obey." Reported by Muslim (Eng. trans Vol 3/1029/34554)
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Re: Invitation to Shabaab & UIC
May Allah forgive the muslims in somalia. Their continues rebellion caused to more fitan and evil.
The Prophet said, “Listen and obey, even if the ruler seizes you and beats your back.” Related by Muslim (6/19)
The Prophet said, “Listen and obey, even if the ruler seizes you and beats your back.” Related by Muslim (6/19)
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Re: Invitation to Shabaab & UIC
American Salafi,
You can bring forward all the literature you want, but it won't change the fact that you are misquoting the religion and using it to support your @ss kissing of America & its policies in the Muslim world. May Allah guide you to the right path and free your mind from your sect, aamiin.
You can bring forward all the literature you want, but it won't change the fact that you are misquoting the religion and using it to support your @ss kissing of America & its policies in the Muslim world. May Allah guide you to the right path and free your mind from your sect, aamiin.
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