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Does Habr Younis live in Saylac , Awdal ?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:10 pm
by Sanaagian
According to wikipedia some HY guy took a couple of canons there with his men and conquered the place.

can someone with PHD in Ishaaq history tell me this

Re: Does Habr Younis live in Saylac , Awdal ?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:15 pm
by LiQaaye_TDH
and you was gonna make Isaaq map Laughing

Habar Awal dont even lIve in Zeylac Ninyow... Zeylac is a Ciise and Samaroon degaan, maybe 300 years ago, some HY Sultaan and his army use rule that area...

Re: Does Habr Younis live in Saylac , Awdal ?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:23 pm
by The_Emperior5
war waanu joogii jiirnay bahgabo ayaa daganaan jiiray waagii fuge

Re: Does Habr Younis live in Saylac , Awdal ?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:28 pm
by yawle
Sanaagian,
We are not like the Poor Dooro fools who claim other people's lands. We are not as shameful as them.

Although there are isaaqs who live in the Zaylac town itself, but Zaylac waa deegaan Ciise. Ciise own it. You can't claim a land because of few families live in there, like those Qurjiile and Fishfaces in their dream about Ceerigaabo.

Re: Does Habr Younis live in Saylac , Awdal ?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:43 pm
by King-of-Awdal
Saylac is pure Mahad Ase samaroon and Essa hood. Cool

Re: Does Habr Younis live in Saylac , Awdal ?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:45 pm
by djibsomali
The history is correct there was a couple of years where the governor of zayla was habar yunis.

Obviously he did not have an army and did not imposed himself.

But he was chosen by the samarone (gadaboursi) and issa to be the governor
under the ottoman empire.

As Riyaleh is the president of somaliland.
The democracy of somaliland did not started with UDUB but was established
centenaries ago and before any western society had any democracy.

Re: Does Habr Younis live in Saylac , Awdal ?

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:00 am
by X.Playa
^^^^^ Non Sense , pure garbage.

There was never a Gedabursi soul in and around Zaylac , Xaaji Sharmaarke Saalax the Turkish governer of Zaylac ruled from 1825-1861, he took the town by froce of 40 Somalis from his Eden and 5 peieces of cannons in 1825 from Maxamed Al Bardi and Arab governer.

When the French overthrew Qadiif Sharmaarke and assasinted him in 1861 in Jidda later Saudi Arabia the new governer was the Afar Abubakr Baasha later followed by Burhaan Baasha the great grand father of Cali Caarif.

The pepole of Zaylac were never Somalis per se throught out history, they were a mix of Arabs/Greeks/Indians/Persians and Ciise Somal. No, Gedabursi ever claimed Zaylac before the 1977, the nomads around Zaylac were 99% Ciise after 1977 and during the cration of Jabuti most of the Ciise left and the province of Awdal became a majority Gedabursi when Ciise vacated the province, yet , still up today the natives reer Zaylac are not Gedabursi, despite Riyoole's 6 years dispossition of the native Zaylac people.

Re: Does Habr Younis live in Saylac , Awdal ?

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:51 pm
by Samatr
X.Playa
Sharmaarke Baashe isku reer baanu nahay, reer Cawad Cali
laakin ilaahay dhiigii Cismaaniyiinta wuu iga ilaalay, qaar aanu wax isku nahay ka muu ilaalin dhiiga Cismaaniyiinta, waa kuu wa aad uu bixiso reer Shaaruub. Laughing

Re: Does Habr Younis live in Saylac , Awdal ?

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:52 pm
by King-of-Awdal
[quote="X.Playa"]^^^^^ Non Sense , pure garbage.

There was never a Gedabursi soul in and around Zaylac , Xaaji Sharmaarke Saalax the Turkish governer of Zaylac ruled from 1825-1861, he took the town by froce of 40 Somalis from his Eden and 5 peieces of cannons in 1825 from Maxamed Al Bardi and Arab governer.

When the French overthrew Qadiif Sharmaarke and assasinted him in 1861 in Jidda later Saudi Arabia the new governer was the Afar Abubakr Baasha later followed by Burhaan Baasha the great grand father of Cali Caarif.

The pepole of Zaylac were never Somalis per se throught out history, they were a mix of Arabs/Greeks/Indians/Persians and Ciise Somal. No, Gedabursi ever claimed Zaylac before the 1977, the nomads around Zaylac were 99% Ciise after 1977 and during the cration of Jabuti most of the Ciise left and the province of Awdal became a majority Gedabursi when Ciise vacated the province, yet , still up today the natives reer Zaylac are not Gedabursi, despite Riyoole's 6 years dispossition of the native Zaylac people.[/quote]


Quit crying you fool Saylac was always an Essa and Mahad Ase territory and samaroon were alwayz living in the city. Dude have even been to Djbouti even on the other side of the border it is majority samaroon. In any case we are brothers and the same people so it really doesnt matter cause at the end of the day Essa is an intergral part of Awdal and Samaroon is an intergral part of Djbouti. Laughing

Re: Does Habr Younis live in Saylac , Awdal ?

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:54 pm
by The_Emperior5
what did u say samaroon is interal par of jabuutii Laughing Laughing Laughing

wara yaana lugu diilin eeh fadhiiso

Re: Does Habr Younis live in Saylac , Awdal ?

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:45 am
by djibsomali
There must be a lot of deranged people around.

But as usual i shall inform you about a piece of history.

25th February 1885

Treaty signed by the samarone at Zeila is as follow:
(Major Frederick Mercer Hunter, the former for themselves, their heirs and successors, and the latter on behalf of the British Government, do each and all in the presence of witnesses affix their signatures, marks, or seals at Zaila on the eleventh day of December one thousand eight hundred and eighty-four, corresponding with the twenty-fifth of Safar one thousand three hundred and two.)


THE GADABURSI TREATY
(Concluded with the British authority, in December 11, 1884 )

We, the undersigned Elders of the Gadabursi tribe, are desirous of entire into an agreement with the British Government for the maintenance of our independence, the preservation of the order, and other good and sufficient reasons.
Now it is hereby agreed and covenanted as follow:

Article I
The Gadabursi tribe do hereby declare that they are pledged and found never to cede, sell, mortgage or otherwise give for occupation, save to the British government, any portion of the territory presently inhabited by them or being under their control.

Article II
All vessels under the British flag shall have free permission to trade all ports and places in the territories of the Gadabursi tribe.

Article III
All British subjects, residing in, or visiting, the territories of the Gadabursi tribe, shall enjoy perfect safety and protection and shall be titled to travel all over the said limits under the safe conduct of the elders of the tribe.

Article IV
The traffic in slaves throughout the territories of the Gadabursi tribe shall cease for ever and the Commander of Her Majesty's vessels, or any other British Officer duly authorised, shall have the power requiring the surrender of any slave, and of supporting the demand by force of arms by land and sea.

Article V
The British Government shall have the power to appoint an agent or agents to reside in the territories of the Gadabursi tribe, and every such agent shall be treated with respect and consideration and be entitled to have for his protection such guard as the British Government deem sufficient.

The above written treaty shall come into force and have effect from the date of signing this agreement.

In token of the conclusion of this lawful and honorable bond, Iama Roblay, Mohamed Ali Balol, Ilmee Warfah (Ughaz' son), Rogay Khairi, Waberi Idlay, Roblay, Warfah, Doaly Dilbad, Amir Egal, Gaylay Shirwah, Warfah Roblay, Yunus Boh
and
Major Frederick Mercer Hunter, the former for themselves, their heirs and successors, and the latter on behalf of the British Government, do each and all in the presence of witnesses affix their signatures, marks, or seals at Zaila on the eleventh day of December one thousand eight hundred and eighty-four, corresponding with the twenty-fifth of Safar one thousand three hundred and two.

(Signed) F. M. Hunter, Major,
Bombay Staff Corps

Signed in presence:
(Signed) Percy Downes,
First Grade Officer, I. M.

(Signed) Dufferin,
Viceroy and Governor General of India

This agreement was ratified by the Governor General of India in Council at Calcutta on the twentieth February one thousand eight hundred and eighty-five.

(Signed) H. M. Durand,
Officiating Secretary to the Government of India, Foreign Department

Fort William,
The 25th February 1885

Re: Does Habr Younis live in Saylac , Awdal ?

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:47 am
by djibsomali
History as always favoured the adalis.
Children of Ahmed Gurey the gadabursi

Re: Does Habr Younis live in Saylac , Awdal ?

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:04 am
by LiquidHYDROGEN
Habr Yoonis live everywhere Cool .

Re: Does Habr Younis live in Saylac , Awdal ?

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:48 pm
by Phd in naago kudis
[quote="abdi.ismail"]Habr Yoonis live everywhere Cool .[/quote]

even on mars Surprised

Re: Does Habr Younis live in Saylac , Awdal ?

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:36 pm
by Qatar_isaaq_chick
[quote="abdi.ismail"]Habr Yoonis live everywhere Cool .[/quote]

are you a habar yonis? Confused