TIME FOR DIPLOMACY

[gobdoon]

The interim government should work hard for peace in somalia/mogadishou and halt for hostility,and the government and parliement should ask themselves whay there is a big support for those who are against them in mogadishou and should sit down with any one and any group,even the countroes like Iraq and Afghanistan every one and the west are finding out that war is not the answer and it's only civilians who sufer and that it's beter to sit down with insurgents and bring to close those conflicts.

[Ina Baxar]

, you engage in diplomacy when you have LEVERAGE .

[Kramer]

Tell that to geeljire from Mudug, who never heard of freedom of speech, or democracy!

All he wants is to be called president, without doing all the responsibilities that come with it!

[Somaliweyn]

[quote="Ina Baxar"] , you engage in diplomacy when you have LEVERAGE .[/quote]




Also, you engage in diplomacy when you have a free will of your own!

[Ina Baxar]

That's why , somaliweyn , I also recommend as a Somalilander the "box'em in" approach when it comes to Xamar and the Hawiye .
We have NOTHING to gain from engaging them today .

[Somaliweyn]

Ina Baxar,

If you look at post-1991, it is quite the other way around.

Northwestern region has box´ed itself in

So far, the isolation from the rest of Somalia has achieved not what it was supposed to achieve. Peace and stability is the only thing it achieved, still many regions in Somalia can claim the same peace and stability.

How would Somalia look now if the Northwestern region did not decide to isolate itself but instead to participate in the game in order to win? Surely, the situation would look more interestingly, but the region decided to exit itself from the game.

As things look like anno 2007, Northwestern region is no different then the rest of Somalia...all are one way or the other in the pockets of Ethiopia, while their people are dissapointed at the failure of their leaders and uncertainty concerning the future.

Anyways, every major Somali group should look after its interest and security, and at a latter stage the respective leaders of the major Somali groups can find common ground.

This however cannot happen while the current opportunists who have appointed themselves as the ´´leaders´´ of the major Somali groups run the show.

[Ina Baxar]

Point taken @ the "boxed itself in " remark, matter of rhetoric
From my perspective , just a quick look at the picture in Xamar TODAY leads me to believe that this Nortwestern strategy based on the concept of quarantine { to use a different analogy} has saved us from the plague .
Look at Puntland , farihii bay idin la soo galeen , bal xanuunkey ka qadeen daya , dhulbahantihii baa xitaa ka soo ordaya maanta !!

[Somaliweyn]

The situation in Xamar today is a painfull lesson for the people. It has opened the eyes of even the blind ones. The future of warlords and opportunists is sealed off by the Ethiopian occupation, once the Ethiopians are defeated to whom will they run to for security? They will run away from the people and leave the country.

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As for Northern affaires, one can say Northeastern region has entered the Southern arena, and in this way have sealed off their future in their current composition. Only a radical internal change of policy and orientation can save them from following the same fate as the warlords and opportunists of the South.

But the same applies to Northwestern, they have entered the Somali political arena by their capture of las anod. In this, they have only reintegrated themselves into Somalia, since without doubt the region will witness a prolong conflict between the local groups, the same push and pull-conflicts the Southern groups have witnessed.

http://www.pinr.com/report.php?ac=view_ ... guage_id=1

Welcome back!

[Ina Baxar]

Time will tell somaliweyn , time will tell , but believe you me , we always are closely monitoring events in the South in hopes of learning a thing or 2 out of it .

[gurey25]

[quote="Somaliweyn"]

The situation in Xamar today is a painfull lesson for the people. It has opened the eyes of even the blind ones. The future of warlords and opportunists is sealed off by the Ethiopian occupation, once the Ethiopians are defeated to whom will they run to for security? They will run away from the people and leave the country.

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As for Northern affaires, one can say Northeastern region has entered the Southern arena, and in this way have sealed off their future in their current composition. Only a radical internal change of policy and orientation can save them from following the same fate as the warlords and opportunists of the South.

But the same applies to Northwestern, they have entered the Somali political arena by their capture of las anod. In this, they have only reintegrated themselves into Somalia, since without doubt the region will witness a prolong conflict between the local groups, the same push and pull-conflicts the Southern groups have witnessed.

http://www.pinr.com/report.php?ac=view_ ... guage_id=1

Welcome back! [/quote]




You seem to think that entering the Somali Political arena is a negative for Somaliland
what you do not realise is that ,a deeper and more aggressive intervention in the Somali poltical arena is a must for any somaliland government.

This is a requirment for the Security interests of Somaliland.

Even this incompetant and near treasonous government knows that and is acting on it.
A nationalist government will enter the somali political arena with both feet, not for some fantasy Somaliweyne but to secure Somaliland interests, Ostrich behaviour is stupid and dangerous.