Report: Wider Spying On YOU!

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Have you voted lately?

I mean, have you voted, locally? and who have you voted for in both congress?

Do you know who is your local district Congress person, or the two Senators that represent your state in Washington?

The New York Times has an article again about our government spying on us all without a warrant.

Read on, because you'll never know when such bUsh's illegal eavesdropping can target you.....and that, you would want to file a complaint with your local ACLU for protection and legal advice.

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Source: New York Times

By ERIC LICHTBLAU, JAMES RISEN and SCOTT SHANE
Published: December 16, 2007

WASHINGTON — For months, the Bush administration has waged a high-profile campaign, including personal lobbying by President Bush and closed-door briefings by top officials, to persuade Congress to pass legislation protecting companies from lawsuits for aiding the National Security Agency’s warrantless eavesdropping program. But the battle is really about something much bigger. At stake is the federal government’s extensive but uneasy partnership with industry to conduct a wide range of secret surveillance operations in fighting terrorism and crime. The N.S.A.’s reliance on telecommunications companies is broader and deeper than ever before, according to government and industry officials, yet that alliance is strained by legal worries and the fear of public exposure.

To detect narcotics trafficking, for example, the government has been collecting the phone records of thousands of Americans and others inside the United States who call people in Latin America, according to several government officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the program remains classified. But in 2004, one major phone carrier balked at turning over its customers’ records. Worried about possible privacy violations or public relations problems, company executives declined to help the operation, which has not been previously disclosed.

In a separate N.S.A. project, executives at a Denver phone carrier, Qwest, refused in early 2001 to give the agency access to their most localized communications switches, which primarily carry domestic calls, according to people aware of the request, which has not been previously reported. They say the arrangement could have permitted neighborhood-by-neighborhood surveillance of phone traffic without a court order, which alarmed them.

The federal government’s reliance on private industry has been driven by changes in technology. Two decades ago, telephone calls and other communications traveled mostly through the air, relayed along microwave towers or bounced off satellites. The N.S.A. could vacuum up phone, fax and data traffic merely by erecting its own satellite dishes. But the fiber optics revolution has sent more and more international communications by land and undersea cable, forcing the agency to seek company cooperation to get access.

After the disclosure two years ago that the N.S.A. was eavesdropping on the international communications of terrorism suspects inside the United States without warrants, more than 40 lawsuits were filed against the government and phone carriers. As a result, skittish companies and their lawyers have been demanding stricter safeguards before they provide access to the government and, in some cases, are refusing outright to cooperate, officials said....With a vote in the Senate on the issue expected as early as Monday, the Bush administration has intensified its efforts to win retroactive immunity for companies cooperating with counterterrorism operations....

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/16/washi ... sa.html...

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CIA Director Michael Hayden was in charge of the NSA when tens of millions spied on.
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"Heading the NSA when tens of millions of Americans were admittedly spied on was Michael Hayden, the current CIA chief opposing the CIA Inspector General’s office for asking questions about criminals there too. Of course, what they actually did/do and what is currently admitted are not the same things!

My informant said they route ALL communications overseas to circumvent the law. Is the "cover story" of databasing
call info just that, the current fall-back cover story for a much larger crime, spying on everyone all the time?"

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NSA has massive database of Americans' phone calls
5/11/2006 -

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington ... 10-nsa_...
By Leslie Cauley, USA TODAY

The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, people with direct knowledge of the arrangement told USA TODAY.

The NSA program reaches into homes and businesses across the nation by amassing information about the calls of ordinary Americans — most of whom aren't suspected of any crime. This program does not involve the NSA listening to or recording conversations. But the spy agency is using the data to analyze calling patterns in an effort to detect terrorist activity, sources said in separate interviews.

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Ex-Qwest Chief Nacchio Says NSA Punished The Phone Company:

In a court appeal, ex-Qwest executive Joseph P. Nacchio says the company was in line to get lucrative NSA work, but was rejected after Qwest raised questions about the legality of some of the agency's work.
By W. David Gardner - InformationWeek - Oct 15, 2007
http://www.informationweek.com/news/sho ... jhtml?a...

Meetings held before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks between officials of the National Security Agency and executives of Qwest Communications (NYSE: Q) International are taking on new significance as Qwest's former chief executive fights a conviction and as Congress debates the NSA's surveillance methods.

Ex-Qwest executive Joseph P. Nacchio, who has been convicted of insider stock trading charges, cites the meetings to back up his argument that Qwest was in line to get lucrative NSA work but was rejected after Qwest raised questions about the legality of some NSA work. If the NSA work had been awarded, as Nacchio anticipated, it would have helped the company's finances, Qwest's stock would have held up better, and Nacchio wouldn't have been criticized so intensely for selling stock.

The meetings are cited by Nacchio in his appeal to the U.S. 10th Circuit Court of Appeals that attempts to reverse a jury verdict for insider trading. Nacchio's attorney, Maureen Mahoney, argued that Nacchio was unfairly handcuffed regarding the government contracts; Nacchio has complained for several months that he couldn't discuss the contracts during the trial, because they involved classified information.

However, while much of the information remains classified, some new information was revealed ..........

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Nacchio affects spy probe
His court filings point to government surveillance months before 9/11
By Andy Vuong, Denver Post, 10/20/2007
http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_7230967

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Nacchio alleges the National Security Agency asked Qwest to participate in a program the phone company thought was illegal more than six months before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks .....

.....recently unsealed documents push that time frame back to February 2001 and indicate the NSA may have also sought to monitor customers' Internet traffic and fax transmissions. .....

..... said Kevin Bankston, a staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a civil-liberties group.

"The fact that these materials suggest that cooperation with the program was tied to the award of certain government contracts also contradicts their (phone companies') claims that they were simply acting in good faith to help fight the terrorists when it appears that they may have been motivated by financial concerns instead," Bankston said.

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"This is, sooner or later, going to be the stuff of congressional hearings because a new starting point has been established for this controversy. A new starting point seven months before 9/11," said Ron Suskind, author of "The One Percent Doctrine," which reported examples of how companies worked with the government in its fight against terrorism after Sept. 11.

"The idea that deals were getting cut between the government and telecom companies in secret in the early part of 2001 creates a whole new discussion as to intent, motivation and goals of the government," Suskind said."

[Spookie]

Nothing new baby, nothing new.


The District Attorney General in Washington already has a case against the Bush Administration. Even the companies that provided the wire tapping and whatnot are in trouble.

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[quote="Spookie"]Nothing new baby, nothing new.


The District Attorney General in Washington already has a case against the Bush Administration. [/quote]

Who is the "District Attorney General in Washington" you speak of?

[Spookie]

Let me see, they are usually elected and voted into office. They supposedly represent state concerned issues but depending who they favor, the people or politicians, it usually results into a win-win situation. Alberto is one of them but we all know he is a shitty bag who works for Bush.

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[quote="Spookie"]Let me see, they are usually elected and voted into office. They supposedly represent state concerned issues but depending who they favor, the people or politicians, it usually results into a win-win situation. Alberto is one of them but we all know he is a shitty bag who works for Bush.[/quote]

Oh mine! You just murdered my topic with ignorance.....

You are to never get involve with my political threads again! You hear?

I am not going to go about wasting time educating you, because I don't know where to begin with your type of Badow.