Lets make a deal..

[Alchemist]

Lets make a deal, if we somalis ever get through this and we unite in the future lets never put tribe before islam and country..

Lets kill the first person who tries to create disunity between us, even if that person happens to hail from our own clans..

Lets put Islam and Unity before anything else..

This is the only thing that can safe us inshallah..

[King-of-Awdal]

Too little too late. Time is up somalia has died and so has her people.

[Alchemist]

I said if we ever get passed this stage.. If we dont, then inshallah the Mahdi is plan B..

[King-of-Awdal]

Good luck but one advice i will give u is before u go and try to spread ur words or idelogy first and foremost start in ur home, region, clan and family than head to ur neighbours.

[Alchemist]

[quote="King-of-Awdal"]Good luck but one advice i will give u is before u go and try to spread ur words or idelogy first and foremost start in ur home, region, clan and family than head to ur neighbours.[/quote]

true.. check my other topic i just wrote about that few minutes ago.. the beware topic..

[galia]

[quote="Alchemist"]Lets make a deal, if we somalis ever get through this and we unite in the future lets never put tribe before islam and country..

Lets kill the first person who tries to create disunity between us, even if that person happens to hail from our own clans..

Lets put Islam and Unity before anything else..

This is the only thing that can safe us inshallah..[/quote]

Thats a deal.

[stakiin]

[quote="Alchemist"]Lets make a deal, if we somalis ever get through this and we unite in the future lets never put tribe before islam and country..

Lets kill the first person who tries to create disunity between us, even if that person happens to hail from our own clans..

Lets put Islam and Unity before anything else..

This is the only thing that can safe us inshallah..[/quote]

I agree with you accept the "lets Kill " part. you should know better then that killing is what got us here

[Alchemist]

[quote="stakiin"][quote="Alchemist"]Lets make a deal, if we somalis ever get through this and we unite in the future lets never put tribe before islam and country..

Lets kill the first person who tries to create disunity between us, even if that person happens to hail from our own clans..

Lets put Islam and Unity before anything else..

This is the only thing that can safe us inshallah..[/quote]

I agree with you accept the "lets Kill " part. you should know better then that killing is what got us here[/quote]

My reason for that was the prophet (pbuh) himself said kill the one who tries to disunite the Ummah..

Disunity is the worse thing.. Unity and stability should be above the life of a single person.. But ofcourse i dont mean that we should go on killing spree without any proofs lol..

[stakiin]

brother, can you provide that hadiith?? where the profit (salla laahu caley wasalam) leterly said that ??

[Alchemist]

[quote="stakiin"]brother, can you provide that hadiith?? where the profit (salla laahu caley wasalam) leterly said that ??[/quote]

I will inshallah... give me a little time though im at work..

[Alchemist]

Here are some hadiths from Saheeh muslim.. There are many more hadiths in other books also but this is just what i have time for now.

Book 020, Number 4565:
It has been narrated on the authority of 'Arfaja who said: I have heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: Different evils will make their appearance in the near future. Anyone who tries to disrupt the affairs of this Umma while they are united you should strike him with the sword whoever he be. (If remonstrance does not prevail with him and he does not desist from his disruptive activities, he is to be killed.)


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Book 020, Number 4566:
In another version of the tradition narrated on the same authority through a different chains of transmitters we have the words:" Kill him."


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Book 020, Number 4567:
It has been narrated (through a still different chain of transmitters) on the Same authority (i. e. 'Arfaja) who said similarly-but adding:" Kill all of them." I heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: When you are holding to one single man as your leader, you should kill who seeks to undermine your solidarity or disrupt your unity.

[Qatar_isaaq_chick]

[quote="Alchemist"]Lets make a deal, if we somalis ever get through this and we unite in the future lets never put tribe before islam and country..

Lets kill the first person who tries to create disunity between us, even if that person happens to hail from our own clans..

Lets put Islam and Unity before anything else..

This is the only thing that can safe us inshallah..[/quote]

Walalo I dont Think You understand English But North Somalia also known as Somaliland has decided to never
become united with Somalia ..

Thats why they are waiting for their recognition .. and become a country for it self like Djibouti..
But if it ever does .. it will properply bring sucess to the country .

[Alchemist]

[quote="Qatar_isaaq_chick"][quote="Alchemist"]Lets make a deal, if we somalis ever get through this and we unite in the future lets never put tribe before islam and country..

Lets kill the first person who tries to create disunity between us, even if that person happens to hail from our own clans..

Lets put Islam and Unity before anything else..

This is the only thing that can safe us inshallah..[/quote]

Walalo I dont Think You understand English But North Somalia also known as Somaliland has decided to never
become united with Somalia ..

Thats why they are waiting for their recognition .. and become a country for it self like Djibouti..
But if it ever does .. it will properply bring sucess to the country .[/quote]

Ok.. This is why i dont discuss politics with everyone...

Anyways what do you think of britney spears?

[stakiin]

[quote="Alchemist"]Here are some hadiths from Saheeh muslim.. There are many more hadiths in other books also but this is just what i have time for now.

Book 020, Number 4565:
It has been narrated on the authority of 'Arfaja who said: I have heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: Different evils will make their appearance in the near future. Anyone who tries to disrupt the affairs of this Umma while they are united you should strike him with the sword whoever he be. (If remonstrance does not prevail with him and he does not desist from his disruptive activities, he is to be killed.)


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Book 020, Number 4566:
In another version of the tradition narrated on the same authority through a different chains of transmitters we have the words:" Kill him."


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Book 020, Number 4567:
It has been narrated (through a still different chain of transmitters) on the Same authority (i. e. 'Arfaja) who said similarly-but adding:" Kill all of them." I heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: When you are holding to one single man as your leader, you should kill who seeks to undermine your solidarity or disrupt your unity.[/quote]



al
this is not the real meaning , do u have al buqaari ?

[Alchemist]

[quote="stakiin"][quote="Alchemist"]Here are some hadiths from Saheeh muslim.. There are many more hadiths in other books also but this is just what i have time for now.

Book 020, Number 4565:
It has been narrated on the authority of 'Arfaja who said: I have heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: Different evils will make their appearance in the near future. Anyone who tries to disrupt the affairs of this Umma while they are united you should strike him with the sword whoever he be. (If remonstrance does not prevail with him and he does not desist from his disruptive activities, he is to be killed.)


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Book 020, Number 4566:
In another version of the tradition narrated on the same authority through a different chains of transmitters we have the words:" Kill him."


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Book 020, Number 4567:
It has been narrated (through a still different chain of transmitters) on the Same authority (i. e. 'Arfaja) who said similarly-but adding:" Kill all of them." I heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: When you are holding to one single man as your leader, you should kill who seeks to undermine your solidarity or disrupt your unity.[/quote]



al
this is not the real meaning , do u have al buqaari ?[/quote]

SXb what do you mean do you have Bakuri? both bukari and muslim are saheeh hadiths.. Anyways you asked for prove and i gave you, take it or go ask your local masjid..

But if you already decided before hand to be hard headed about something than please dont waste the persons time by asking for proof..