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Best Form of government for somalis

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:01 am
by LiquidHYDROGEN
If Somalia ever gets past this Dark-ages phase, What form of government would you like to represent your country?
I like a Theocracy, an Islamic state governed by a council of Ulema

Re: Best Form of government for somalis

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:11 am
by Somali_4Life
Any non-faqash government is good with me.

Re: Best Form of government for somalis

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:22 am
by Shirib
A state run by Islamic Sharia

Re: Best Form of government for somalis

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:26 am
by Saracen
[quote="abdi.ismail"]If Somalia ever gets past this Dark-ages phase, What form of government would you like to represent your country?[/quote]

It isn't up to Somalis to adopt the best form of government that suits them; it's up to America/Europe. That's unless Somalis fight for adopting the best form of government that suits them.

Re: Best Form of government for somalis

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:27 am
by AbdiWahab252
A government run by:

1. Executive Branch - President & PM
2. Golaha Dhaqanka - House of Traditional Leaders
3. Golaha Ulemada - House of Religious Leaders
4. Parliament

Re: Best Form of government for somalis

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:05 pm
by Grant
AW,

That looks like a recipe for gridlock. How are you going to get legislation through three houses?

Re: Best Form of government for somalis

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:09 pm
by LiquidHYDROGEN
[quote="Grant"]AW,

That looks like a recipe for gridlock. How are you going to get legislation through three houses?[/quote]

True, but who says all Three of the houses have to have actual power, they could just be symbolic to let the people think its a Democracy.

Re: Best Form of government for somalis

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:01 pm
by Sanaagian
lool theocracy ?with mullas as imperfecto rulers .
We are humans we do mistakes last thing we should have in Somalia is a fake mulla regime like Iran or Saudi to rule us ...

we dont need something like " House of religous elders or some shit like that "
If you have something to say about Diin say to the public in a religious matter
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dont mix it with current politics and act like you are a Sheikh Cali Wanaagsan BilaaQhalad iyo Dambi "
Adressing hebel iyo hebel politicians to fear Allah.
Thats why we have laws to follow. ( its here Sharia fits in )

Seriously the President and PM solution suc-ks as well..
you cant have two " Strongmen " in Somalia --> Ghedi and A/Y ) ....

Somalilands solution is the best , it works after some 15 years in real action *
Commander in Chief + VP with important ministers acting as PM's in their sections...
The President may have the real power , but according to the constitution He CAN'T fire the Vice President (!) ... wallee waa raggeedi our politicians.

AW your solution sounds like a perfect recipy to chaos and war

Re: Best Form of government for somalis

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:08 pm
by *jr
[quote="Grant"]AW,

That looks like a recipe for gridlock. How are you going to get legislation through three houses?[/quote]

my thinking exactly

Re: Best Form of government for somalis

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:22 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Grant,

Better gridlock with everyone participating and agreeing on consensus rather than the 1 strongman solution which breeds resentment and trying to resolve the gridlock by force of arms.

The Traditional Elders and Religious Councils would be advisory and not carry weight. They are sort of like the "referees" incase things get out of control in the Parliament and Executive Branch.

Re: Best Form of government for somalis

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:27 pm
by Sanaagian
You mean like the traditional elders of Hawiya today not having any real power or influence over the blody Shabaab youth ?

AW I dont think Hawiya have that institution of Elders anymore cause of the italian system pre 1960.
It would be meaningless and artificial if they didn't have power.

Isaaq elders were the founding pillars of our state .
Today they have kind of the same task like the President of Israel ( the man protecting the nuclear codes ) our elders protect the clans from entering politics in a negative way.

Waraabe might be controversal , but the man is extremely bright.
He said our goal is from voting in clansrepresentatives to one day voting purely based on opinion.
We are Insha Allah on that way taking our giant babysteps.

Re: Best Form of government for somalis

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:31 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Sanagian,

The Shabab are NOT a qabiil based organization and belong to BEESHA GARDHEER. They don't like Odeeyasha Hawiye because the Odeeyal are competitors for power & represent only Hawiye. SHABAB have members from all qabiils.

Re: Best Form of government for somalis

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:33 pm
by Naaima
aristocracy thanks!

Re: Best Form of government for somalis

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:35 pm
by Sanaagian
I dont think thats something to be proud of ... If they don't even want to listen to the elders of konfuurta how can these rebellious youths govern a country if the xabashis leave ?

What a headache

Trust me , that man Ayrow leader of Shabaab would imediately go after power if his Shabaab emerged victorius tomorrow

I dont believe he would do anything noble like handing over power to civilian rule like SNM...

Re: Best Form of government for somalis

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:15 pm
by PINK_BUNNY
A Islamic Republic.