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TFG camp incoherent reasoning

Post by Somaliweyn »

I have come across many supporters of the Tigre Founded Government who use nationalistic rethorics to critize the secessionist camp.

One who supports an entity that is on life-support from Addis Abebba should not think about the other entity based in Hargeisa.






To us, those two entities are the same: both enemy of the genuine Somali security interest in the Horn of Africa.
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Re: TFG camp incoherent reasoning

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Well said...

People who support the TFG have no right to critize Somaliland..

If anything, Somaliland is less demaging because all they want to do is separate but TFG supporters want the whole of Somalia to be under Ethiopian occupation..
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Somaliweyn, for once I'll have to agree with you.

In my opinion one cannot have a Pro Eithiopia (TFG) type or be a clannist and other things and then be in constant Somaliand bashing mode. I for instance am a clannist therefore I would find it hyopcritical to be bashing sland 24/7. I'm for whatever is in the interest of my clan, however I found out its better to be upfront about it rather than mask patrioticness supporting the TFG and bashing sland.
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Alchemist, the prophet (SCW) said "not even the kacba is important to Allah as the death of a Muslim", any party whether in Garbaharey or Hargeisa who watches what is going on in Xamar and other areas in Somalia with difference knowing there is an infidel army, in Muslim land, killing and shelling Muslim people diintiisa shaki baa ku jirto, wax la amaano ama la taageerana ka fog
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Murax.. "I for instance am a clannist" looooooooooooooooool ... like the honesty

Voltage your right sxb.. Qabil has taken us too far, so far that some of our people are close to leaving islam all together, supporting kuffars and democracy over islam or putting qabil over islam..
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Is it surprising that most Tige Founded Government supporters hail from the Northeastern entity, which also happens to be in a long conflict with the Northwestern entity?

How can such people ever justify their support to the puppet entity that is bent on fullfilling the wishes of Addis Abbeba while critizing the other puppet entity in Hargeisa that is bent on dismembering Somalia?


Only one who opposes all negative things that has affected Somalis and Somalia since 1991, can oppose the secessionist camp. It is either oppose all negative things: anarchy, warlordism, opportunism, secessionism, criminal business groups, landexpansion/occupation and regional interference (Igad/Addis abbeba) or oppose none. You can not defend warlordism and regional interference (TFG) while criticing anarchy and secessionism.

Insha allah, we will move forward once the hypocrites are taken care of.
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[quote="Somaliweyn"]Is it surprising that most Tige Founded Government supporters hail from the Northeastern entity, which also happens to be in a long conflict with the Northwestern entity?

How can such people ever justify their support to the puppet entity that is bent on fullfilling the wishes of Addis Abbeba while critizing the other puppet entity in Hargeisa that is bent on dismembering Somalia?


Only one who opposes all negative things that has affected Somalis and Somalia since 1991, can oppose the secessionist camp. It is either oppose all negative things: anarchy, warlordism, opportunism, secessionism, criminal business groups, landexpansion/occupation and regional interference (Igad/Addis abbeba) or oppose none. You can not defend warlordism and regional interference (TFG) while criticing anarchy and secessionism.

Insha allah, we will move forward once the hypocrites are taken care of.[/quote]

well said again bro.. There is nothing more i can add..
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Re: TFG camp incoherent reasoning

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What is it so contradictory to support the federal government and oppose the secession?

TFG is trying to unite Somalia, restore law and order in Xamar and cleanse out the terrorists who have held Somalia hostage the last 17 years.

The Northerners burn the Somali flag and trying to divide Somalia into two camps.

Only an idiot mooryaan habar gidir terrorist isbaaro thief will try to come up with a lame argument like this.
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Lol@ isbaaro thief.

Well said uncle Cilmile.
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[quote="Cilmiile"]TFG is trying to unite Somalia, restore law and order in Xamar and cleanse out the terrorists who have held Somalia hostage the last 17 years. [/quote]

Your proof, old man? Name any functioning institutions, ministeries, departments, agencies that are staffed & running? TFG have existed by name for the last 4 years, the same goons & war criminals that have crippled Somalia have absolutely no interest in a functioning, transparent Somali government. Its simple as that.
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Re: TFG camp incoherent reasoning

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Koronto

First we have to get rid of the remnants of the isbaaro thieves who have transformed themselves into a religious terrorist outfit taking inspiriation from Al qaeda and the crazy wahaabi Cult.

It is a very difficult and gradual process and step by step Mogadishu is being pacified and cleansed of the Isbaaro theives.

Most governmetn functions are carried out in the provincial town of Baydhabo. 17 years of horror and destruction are hard to overcome, specially in the face of constants mortar attacks and roadside bombs and suicide bombings of terrorist mooryaans and islamic extremists.
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I always wonder when somaliweyne uses the terms 'we'. Who is we? If you wanna talk about incoherency and inconsistency, look no further than the so called resistance. You have ex warlords/TFG like hussein aideed, ICU terrorists remanants like aweys, and shabab. And each one of those groups has an idealistic plan of their own. What happens if the TFG is defeated, we are simply back to square one with those groups locking heads and using foreigners for help.

TFG as a weak and unpopular as it is, it's a way forward and nor backwards.
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Re: TFG camp incoherent reasoning

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Ican .. well said brother

Cawar,

Welcome my one eyed friend. good to see u back.

Care to share the solutiono to the strange riddle ?

I even forgot the riddle itself but i spent a lot of time trying to solve it.
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Re: TFG camp incoherent reasoning

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[quote="Cilmiile"]TFG is trying to unite Somalia, restore law and order in Xamar and cleanse out the terrorists who have held Somalia hostage the last 17 years. [/quote]

If only you could say that with a straight face.
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Re: TFG camp incoherent reasoning

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The difference between the somaliland Gov and the HartiTFG is that one has the blood of the people it is suppose to represents on its hands and the other has no blood but is exercising the wishes of the people it represents.The somaliland Gov does not lie and claim it is representing the wishes of all somalis it makes it very clear as day light that its goal is what the somaliland people want.The TFG claims it represents all somalis but this is a blatant lie it exist to further the wishes of the same people who have dismantled and distroyed somali unity.Its wishes are executed with brute force by a foreign military power.If it was a truly somali Gov their would be no need for ethoipian military to keep this so called Government on live support.
The somaliland Gov is not anti Hawyie or pro hawyie it is pro somaliland because its the people of somaliland who put it in power and thats who's views it takes seriously.The north easterners views on somaliland is not to be taken seriously becasue for them to think impartial is to go against their own self interest.They will put this self interest ahead of even somali interest.Its not in the interest of somalia to have ethoipian military killing somalis but apparently it is according to them.Its not in the interest of somali unity to have all the old warlords back and in any Government office because these are the same people that destroyed and held back somali progress upto now.
Somaliland is somaliland its goals are to further their interest it does exactly what it says on the tin.
Somali TFG who does it represent the million women and men homeless in xammer.The warlords make in xammer doing what they do best bringing pain and suffering to the masses or the landlocked ethioipian occupation which has the perfect pretext to occupy the longest coast in all of africa.
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