How to advise the Muslim Rulers?
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How to advise the Muslim Rulers?
These days alot of groups have emerged and one of these groups are called takfiris/Khawarij. They have innovated in the religion in many areas specially when it comes to the Rulers. The make takfir(making someone a Kaffir) a blank check. They also make it permissible to criticize the rulers. All these goes against the Sunnah and the way of the salaf. It also resembles the way of the Khawarij. the khawarij use to make the muslim blood Halal and they use to criticize the rulers and go against them.
Here is a good article concerning how to advise the Rulers. It is written by sheikh Ibn Baaz. Sheikh Ibn Baaz is one of the great scholars of our Era. Allah has blessed him with Knowledge and righteouness. He also gave a fatwa against Bin laden and his group, AL-Qaida.
http://www.spubs.com/sps/
Here is a good article concerning how to advise the Rulers. It is written by sheikh Ibn Baaz. Sheikh Ibn Baaz is one of the great scholars of our Era. Allah has blessed him with Knowledge and righteouness. He also gave a fatwa against Bin laden and his group, AL-Qaida.
http://www.spubs.com/sps/
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Re: How to advise the Muslim Rulers?
The Takfiri group have infiltrated a lot of Muslims countries especially Somalia and brought with them their disastrous ideology. May allah(swt) guide muslims away from this group.
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Re: How to advise the Muslim Rulers?
Why are you always obsessed with Bin Laden, Saudi Arabia and America? Why don't we ever see you post actual substance that is important to Muslims?
You are a mouth piece for the Saudi monarchy, admit it, munaafaqyahow.
You are a mouth piece for the Saudi monarchy, admit it, munaafaqyahow.
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Re: How to advise the Muslim Rulers?
Koronto
I bet you this guy has rampage somalinet with his extreme views. Koronto are surprised that someone has exposed your deviant group to the muslims. If you really believe what you believe go listen to your so called "sheikh Bin laden" and blow yourself up at the local supermarket. Hypocrites
I bet you this guy has rampage somalinet with his extreme views. Koronto are surprised that someone has exposed your deviant group to the muslims. If you really believe what you believe go listen to your so called "sheikh Bin laden" and blow yourself up at the local supermarket. Hypocrites
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Re: How to advise the Muslim Rulers?
Jadiidi,
You're predictable, man...your sect snitches on Muslims to the FBI, it has happened to many before; anyone who exposes your true colors is a "terrorist"...cheap and desparate, walee. Keep waving those white cimaamads issued by King Abdullah and leave Islam out of your focked up mind.
You're predictable, man...your sect snitches on Muslims to the FBI, it has happened to many before; anyone who exposes your true colors is a "terrorist"...cheap and desparate, walee. Keep waving those white cimaamads issued by King Abdullah and leave Islam out of your focked up mind.
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Re: How to advise the Muslim Rulers?
Barakallahu feek. All 'mujahideen' have no right to rebel against their chosen Ameer.
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Re: How to advise the Muslim Rulers?
[quote="Hassan_Al_Basri01"]Barakallahu feek. All 'mujahideen' have no right to rebel against their chosen Ameer.[/quote]
Prove? Don't tell me you're talking about the hadith that says: "Do not rebel a Muslim leader that rules using Shari'ah!" Is A/Yusuf ruling by Shariah? What about the verse in the Qur'an that says: "Anyone who rules by anything that isn't Shari'ah has disbelieved." Which is greater; a hadith or a verse from the Qur'an?
Prove? Don't tell me you're talking about the hadith that says: "Do not rebel a Muslim leader that rules using Shari'ah!" Is A/Yusuf ruling by Shariah? What about the verse in the Qur'an that says: "Anyone who rules by anything that isn't Shari'ah has disbelieved." Which is greater; a hadith or a verse from the Qur'an?
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Re: How to advise the Muslim Rulers?
THE SAUDI MONARCH ARE NOT THE EQUIVALENT OF THE CALIPHA...
Ali Ibn abi Talib was agianst the Khawariij
he was rightly guided
King Abdullah is a American Puppet....
Ali Ibn abi Talib was agianst the Khawariij
he was rightly guided
King Abdullah is a American Puppet....
Re: How to advise the Muslim Rulers?
The ruler cannot be rebelled against but I don't think Cabdullahi Yusuf satisfies the three requirements of being a 'ruler'
1) He was not elected by Shura
2) He didn't take power by force
3) He was not made a successor by the prior Power that be (Previous Gov)
Therefore I don't think that Hadith applies to him but Allah knows best, I could be wrong.
1) He was not elected by Shura
2) He didn't take power by force
3) He was not made a successor by the prior Power that be (Previous Gov)
Therefore I don't think that Hadith applies to him but Allah knows best, I could be wrong.
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Re: How to advise the Muslim Rulers?
What is the leader that can not be rebelled against?
-A Muslim leader who rules a Muslim land by Shar'iah.
-A Muslim leader who was elected through a council of pious Muslims.
-A Muslim leader who came to power through force, but still rules the land by way of Shari'ah.
Does A/Yusuf fit any of these 3 conditions? NO.
Al Jadiidi,
Take your cheap propaganda and shove it. There's nothing I hate more than those that abuse the religion for their own self interests or the interests of the Saudi Monarchy. Your cult called "Salafi Jadiid" is a product of America & Saudi Arabia; your lies have no basis.
-A Muslim leader who rules a Muslim land by Shar'iah.
-A Muslim leader who was elected through a council of pious Muslims.
-A Muslim leader who came to power through force, but still rules the land by way of Shari'ah.
Does A/Yusuf fit any of these 3 conditions? NO.
Al Jadiidi,
Take your cheap propaganda and shove it. There's nothing I hate more than those that abuse the religion for their own self interests or the interests of the Saudi Monarchy. Your cult called "Salafi Jadiid" is a product of America & Saudi Arabia; your lies have no basis.
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Re: How to advise the Muslim Rulers?
[quote="Koronto91"][quote="Hassan_Al_Basri01"]Barakallahu feek. All 'mujahideen' have no right to rebel against their chosen Ameer.[/quote]
Prove? Don't tell me you're talking about the hadith that says: "Do not rebel a Muslim leader that rules using Shari'ah!" Is A/Yusuf ruling by Shariah? What about the verse in the Qur'an that says: "Anyone who rules by anything that isn't Shari'ah has disbelieved." Which is greater; a hadith or a verse from the Qur'an?[/quote]
How can our amir rule by the shariah when the kharijis are attacking him?
Prove? Don't tell me you're talking about the hadith that says: "Do not rebel a Muslim leader that rules using Shari'ah!" Is A/Yusuf ruling by Shariah? What about the verse in the Qur'an that says: "Anyone who rules by anything that isn't Shari'ah has disbelieved." Which is greater; a hadith or a verse from the Qur'an?[/quote]
How can our amir rule by the shariah when the kharijis are attacking him?
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Re: How to advise the Muslim Rulers?
As long the ruler is muslim,prayes and says the two shahatayn: WE MUST NOT REBEL AGAINST HIM.
As long the ruler does not commit clear kufr(leaving islam):WE MUST NOT REBEL AGAINST OUR AMIR.
As long the ruler does not commit clear kufr(leaving islam):WE MUST NOT REBEL AGAINST OUR AMIR.
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Re: How to advise the Muslim Rulers?
Somalia will face punishment until they stop their rebellious nature.
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Re: How to advise the Muslim Rulers?
Takfiiris and Jadiidis are working for the puppets...
Your Master Ina Yey will be overthrown.
Your Master Ina Yey will be overthrown.
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