The Sunnah, Amazing Video

[American Salafi]

Wallahi I advise every person to have patience and watch this video. It talks about the Sunnah and Its importances. Sheikh Abdul Azeez bin Rayyis, Mashallah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEJcjgLzf7I

[Voltage]

American Salafi, I found this video and starting at 3:40 they tell the students to wage Jihad you need the "king's" permission. King of Saudi Arabia is a Caliph now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPqVzaC6VMI


Xasbuna laah wa nicmal wakiil

[American Salafi]

Voltage

Akhi that was a beneficial video.You can't "wage" Jihad without the Permission of the Amir. This is Islamic Doctrine not personal opinion. When you send an army to fight the kuffar, you of course, need the permission of the Ruler. This is one of the conditions of waging Jihad, that you have the permisssion of the Ruler. you can't just call up your Homies and start marching down the street, calling for Jihad. Islam is a religion of Order not Disorganization. Sheikh Albani refute a man that tried to argue that you can wage Jihad without a Ruler against the Kuffar.

Finally I didn't see you criticize those people that brainwashed those muslims believeing that suicide bombings and killing the innocent is Jihad? So why? Do you believe in suicide bombings and the killing of the Innocent?

[Voltage]

American Salafi, in the Qur'an Allah (Swt) says if you but kill a single soul, it is as if you killed the whole of humanity and if you but save a single soul, it is as if you saved the whole of humanity so it is ridiculous for you to ask me if I believe in the killing of innocent civilians. Regarding suicide bombings, I have always been sympathetic to unarmed people like the Palestinians being forced to resort to such extremes because of the massive arms of the other side, but I have never approved it nor have I ever doubted it is "un-Islamic".

However, my contention is the Jihad part and the misleading of those men saying only if the "King" allows it. You said "Amiir", is King Abdullah an Islamic amir???

[American Salafi]

There is no opinion concerning Suicide bombing akhi. Its very clear from the book of Allah and the sunnah, that suicide in any form is Haraam. We can let our opinion and emotion get in the way of the truth akhi. We all feel the pain of our brothers but still we can't go beyond the Shari'ah.

The meaning of Amir is "leader" in English. King Abdullah is the leader of Saudi Arabia. Our you saying that Abdullah is not a leader? That is hilarious to believe that he is not a leader. So there is no point in arguing there akhi.

[Koronto91]

American Jadiidi,

Why does your 'Salafi Jadiid' sect permit the insulting of religious scholars like Sh. Qardawi? Why do you call the Sheikh "The Barking Dog"? Is that what your Saudi manufactured version of Islam teaches?

[American Salafi]

All the scholars have refuted this deviant, innovator, Qardawi. As usual your group loves to defend innovators like Qardawi. but you never ask why they refute him, do you? Should I tell you the beliefs and the quotes of Qardawi?

Wallahi you would be amazed about this innovator's believes.

read all this fatwas and quotes. http://al-ibaanah.com/cms/pdf_files/79.pdf

[Murax]

May Allah unite our hearts and push us in his path. May Allah lead us to guard our toungue, fingers (typing) or any of our body from that he dislikes. And may Allah give us the understanding of the Religion with the understanding of the Sahabah.

[Voltage]

[quote="American Salafi"]There is no opinion concerning Suicide bombing akhi. Its very clear from the book of Allah and the sunnah, that suicide in any form is Haraam. We can let our opinion and emotion get in the way of the truth akhi. We all feel the pain of our brothers but still we can't go beyond the Shari'ah.

The meaning of Amir is "leader" in English. King Abdullah is the leader of Saudi Arabia. Our you saying that Abdullah is not a leader? That is hilarious to believe that he is not a leader. So there is no point in arguing there akhi.[/quote]

1.Why the hell are you repeating suicide as if I agreed with it? Do you have an agenda or something??

2. No made Abdullah "Amir" so keep your opinions to yourself and cease calling him malak (king) because only Allah (swt) is malak.

[fisabililah]

[quote="American Salafi"]Voltage

Akhi that was a beneficial video.You can't "wage" Jihad without the Permission of the Amir. This is Islamic Doctrine not personal opinion. When you send an army to fight the kuffar, you of course, need the permission of the Ruler. This is one of the conditions of waging Jihad, that you have the permisssion of the Ruler. you can't just call up your Homies and start marching down the street, calling for Jihad. Islam is a religion of Order not Disorganization. Sheikh Albani refute a man that tried to argue that you can wage Jihad without a Ruler against the Kuffar.

Finally I didn't see you criticize those people that brainwashed those muslims believeing that suicide bombings and killing the innocent is Jihad? So why? Do you believe in suicide bombings and the killing of the Innocent?[/quote]


firstly the jihad that needs an ameer is the offensive jihad which is considered fard-kifayah in the shariah.and no one is doing an offensive jihad at the moment.it is all defensive.

At this moment in time the jihad is defensive so you do not need an ameer and this is not a conditon of defending the lands of the muslimeen. And this is a proven fact in all the books of fiqh and there is no difference of opinion that once the muslim lands are atatcked it becomes an aobligation to defend. And this is known from the statements of the ulema both past and present.

and even the shuyykh of the salafiyoon of our times have said this, as shiekh ibn baz signed the fatwaa of shiekh abdullah bin baz to defend the muslim lands. and from our times the mujahideen in chechnya used to refer to the fatawaa of shiekh al utheymeen regarding jihaad, and in chechnya some of the main players were from amongst the students of shiekh al utheymeen like sheikh umar al-sayaf.And shiekh al-albani said jihad is fard al-ayn in our times and if you listened to any of his tapes you would know abut this, but obviously your one of those people that cling on to some small obscure translation.

As for killing innocent then this wrong from the view of the shariah and we do not condone this.But this does not stop me loving the mujahideen as it is part of imaan to love the soldiers of Allah and hate all those who oppose them.

As for sucide bombings then it is known from shariah it is haraam to take your life if you hate the qadar of Allah, as for the one who kills himself so that the kalimah of Allah is supreme then some of the ulema said he is a shaheed.

And you mention shiekh al-alabani whoa ctually said suicide bombinsg are allowed, and his fatwa is known just do a search if you dont believe me. but we have fatwaa from bigger shuyuukh then shiekh al-albani who have said the same, the likes of shiekh muhammed ibrahim alaa shiekh, and shiekh hamud ibn uqla.

so what i say to you American salafi is that, you describe yourself in a most comprehensive manner. Your deen is affected by the Americans, and you only believe in Jihad if it is not against America. And mashalalh most of the brothers on this forum are not affected by the doubts you try to spread.

And dawatal-salafiyah is not the words of men, but it is the book and the sunnah. and i would never abdondon surah al baraa and al-anfaal for the words of men who have doubt in the deen. And it is true that it was jihaad that seperated the munafiqeen from the muslims in medina and all you do is repeat what the munafiqeen said to the sahabah.


wa'alaikuma salaaam

[Voltage]

Excellent brother fisabililah

[Naaima]

Salam alaikum

shukran.. may allah subxana watacala guide us to his true path and protect all muslims from what is not worth for this life and for the day we shall meet allah in the eternal world....

[Murax]

Suicide bombings are xaraam.

[American Salafi]

Fisibililah

First of All, you agree with me that Offensive Jihad needs an Amir. There is no argument there. But when you say that you don't believe in the killing of the innocent and at the same time you don't hate the "Mujahideen", that is contradiction. If you look at the so called "mujahideen" in Iraq, they freely butcher hundreds of muslims every day in the market place, in their homes, and many other places believeing it to be Jihad. Also when you say that "suicide" is haram and than state that is allowable in so called "jihad" than that is another contradiction. Also you mis-spoke when you said that Sheikh ALbani allowed suicide bombings, subhanallah. Sheikh ALbani made it very clear that suicide bombings are Haram in any form. Here he is stating this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DDr9pywHCA

When you say that my beliefs are affected by America, exposes your true colors. When the people of the Sunnah expose your groups extreme and deviant beliefs you restort to insults and false accusations.

Allah knows best.

[Murax]

[quote="American Salafi"]If you look at the so called "mujahideen" in Iraq, they freely butcher hundreds of muslims every day in the market place, in their homes, and many other places believeing it to be Jihad. .[/quote]


Cosign. Suicide, and the spilling of blood of Muslims in addition to suicide bombings is the manhaj of the Ikhwaan, Khawaarij etc. wal yacaadu bilah.