The Birth of the World's Newest State: Kosovo

[Navy9]

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/st ... 00:00%20AM

[Goljano Lion]

Somaliland is set for independence too, well done Kosovo, if Kosovo could break away from Serbia why not Somaliland?

[justice4basra]

[quote="Goljano Lion"]Somaliland is set for independence too, well done Kosovo, if Kosovo could break away from Serbia why not Somaliland?[/quote]

'cause Kosovars are Muslims who are breaking away from Christians who massacred them

[Goljano Lion]

[quote="justice4basra"][quote="Goljano Lion"]Somaliland is set for independence too, well done Kosovo, if Kosovo could break away from Serbia why not Somaliland?[/quote]

'cause Kosovars are Muslims who are breaking away from Christians who massacred them[/quote]
We too are breaking away from Zoo-mali savages from the south who have been killing each other for the last 18 years

[Murax]

Amazing.

I had the privilage of visting a huge thousands upon thousands camp of Albanians in New Jersey when they were received in America. I remember the look on some of their faces after going through the horror and trauma of the Serbian genocide against them. They seem very removed from Islamic practices but it seems to be 99% based on ignorance as they saw us praying and were very curious and awstruck and I remember their elders in the camp telling everyone to pray mashallah.


However its comical and with all due respect pretty stupid to compare Yugosalvia to Somalia. For one the Western Powers see the breakup of Yugoslavia as symbolic of officially dissentegrating the USSR and its affiliates so they have a vested interest to recognize them instead of a poor Somalia seccessionist who emails his senator and tells Faarax Abdi the webmaster of his idaacad to right that the US is 'seriously considering independence' for Somailand, lol...

Then You have people with totally different ethicities, language, Religion, culture and that union continuing would mean back to a vicious war which makes Somalia look like childs play which would then cause a huge and expensive UN peacekeeping force. The Somali mess is for all Somalis marka lets stop humiliating ourselves like Riyaale coming to DC in a rental car and sort out our problems and build our country, lol.

[justice4basra]

[quote="Goljano Lion"]We too are breaking away from Zoo-mali savages from the south who have been killing each other for the last 18 years[/quote]

Kosovo was part of the Ottoman empire, so they have basis for independence. Somaliland didn't exist before the colonial times

[Goljano Lion]

[quote="justice4basra"][quote="Goljano Lion"]We too are breaking away from Zoo-mali savages from the south who have been killing each other for the last 18 years[/quote]

Kosovo was part of the Ottoman empire, so they have basis for independence. Somaliland didn't exist before the colonial times[/quote]

what that has to do with their independence? do you say what ever comes to your mind, Basra, think before you post

[FAH1223]

[quote="Murax"]Amazing.

I had the privilage of visting a huge thousands upon thousands camp of Albanians in New Jersey when they were received in America. I remember the look on some of their faces after going through the horror and trauma of the Serbian genocide against them. They seem very removed from Islamic practices but it seems to be 99% based on ignorance as they saw us praying and were very curious and awstruck and I remember their elders in the camp telling everyone to pray mashallah.


However its comical and with all due respect pretty stupid to compare Yugosalvia to Somalia. For one the Western Powers see the breakup of Yugoslavia as symbolic of officially dissentegrating the USSR and its affiliates so they have a vested interest to recognize them instead of a poor Somalia seccessionist who emails his senator and tells Faarax Abdi the webmaster of his idaacad to right that the US is 'seriously considering independence' for Somailand, lol...

Then You have people with totally different ethicities, language, Religion, culture and that union continuing would mean back to a vicious war which makes Somalia look like childs play which would then cause a huge and expensive UN peacekeeping force. The Somali mess is for all Somalis marka lets stop humiliating ourselves like Riyaale coming to DC in a rental car and sort out our problems and build our country, lol.[/quote]

yep...

were they that really ignorant of Islam?

[Goljano Lion]

[quote="FAH1223"][quote="Murax"]Amazing.

I had the privilage of visting a huge thousands upon thousands camp of Albanians in New Jersey when they were received in America. I remember the look on some of their faces after going through the horror and trauma of the Serbian genocide against them. They seem very removed from Islamic practices but it seems to be 99% based on ignorance as they saw us praying and were very curious and awstruck and I remember their elders in the camp telling everyone to pray mashallah.


However its comical and with all due respect pretty stupid to compare Yugosalvia to Somalia. For one the Western Powers see the breakup of Yugoslavia as symbolic of officially dissentegrating the USSR and its affiliates so they have a vested interest to recognize them instead of a poor Somalia seccessionist who emails his senator and tells Faarax Abdi the webmaster of his idaacad to right that the US is 'seriously considering independence' for Somailand, lol...

Then You have people with totally different ethicities, language, Religion, culture and that union continuing would mean back to a vicious war which makes Somalia look like childs play which would then cause a huge and expensive UN peacekeeping force. The Somali mess is for all Somalis marka lets stop humiliating ourselves like Riyaale coming to DC in a rental car and sort out our problems and build our country, lol.[/quote]

yep...

were they that really ignorant of Islam?[/quote]

Madam , Most of the Arab world speak the same language, have the same ethnicities, culture and religion? what is your point? try to convince me why should we stay with Zoo-malia?

[yawle]

Good for Kosovars. They deserve it.

It will pave the way for Somaliland's recognition as well. Within this year hopefully Somaliland will also join the international community.


[quote]
Kosovo was part of the Ottoman empire, so they have basis for independence. Somaliland didn't exist before the colonial times[/quote]

Somaliland was part of the Othoman empire too. Do some research.

[FAH1223]

[quote="Goljano Lion"] Most of the Arab world speak the same language, have the same ethnicities, culture and religion? what is your point? try to convince me why should we stay with Zoo-malia?[/quote]

well one, we do share those commonalities and the arabs have all those countries because of colonization of the Ottoman Empire lands

two, one or two clan families really support succession, there has to be a referendum by the whole Somalia, not just British Somaliland area, and also a Somalia Government has to formally recognize it for the world to recognize it

hindsight is 20/20, but most of these kids...especially in London have blindly run into this Somaliland ideology because thats all they been taught, they never seen a united Somalia and a united Somalia sounds so foreign b/c it was so long ago

so meh, i dont think recognition will ever happen, but i aint gonna care if it does

yawle is kinda right...a lot of Awdal area was controlled by the Turks until the British came from Egypt...

[Goljano Lion]

[quote="FAH1223"][quote="Goljano Lion"] Most of the Arab world speak the same language, have the same ethnicities, culture and religion? what is your point? try to convince me why should we stay with Zoo-malia?[/quote]

well one, we do share those commonalities and the arabs have all those countries because of colonization of the Ottoman Empire lands

two, one or two clan families really support succession, there has to be a referendum by the whole Somalia, not just British Somaliland area, and also a Somalia Government has to formally recognize it for the world to recognize it

hindsight is 20/20, but most of these kids...especially in London have blindly run into this Somaliland ideology because thats all they been taught, they never seen a united Somalia and a united Somalia sounds so foreign b/c it was so long ago

so meh, i dont think recognition will ever happen, but i aint gonna care if it does

yawle is kinda right...a lot of Awdal area was controlled by the Turks until the British came from Egypt...[/quote]

If East Timor can exist, so can Kosovo, so can Somaliland? Only bad for Darood, I guess

[Goljano Lion]

[quote="Goljano Lion"][quote="FAH1223"][quote="Goljano Lion"] Most of the Arab world speak the same language, have the same ethnicities, culture and religion? what is your point? try to convince me why should we stay with Zoo-malia?[/quote]

well one, we do share those commonalities and the arabs have all those countries because of colonization of the Ottoman Empire lands

two, one or two clan families really support succession, there has to be a referendum by the whole Somalia, not just British Somaliland area, and also a Somalia Government has to formally recognize it for the world to recognize it

hindsight is 20/20, but most of these kids...especially in London have blindly run into this Somaliland ideology because thats all they been taught, they never seen a united Somalia and a united Somalia sounds so foreign b/c it was so long ago

so meh, i dont think recognition will ever happen, but i aint gonna care if it does

yawle is kinda right...a lot of Awdal area was controlled by the Turks until the British came from Egypt...[/quote]

If East Timor can exist, so can Kosovo, so can Somaliland? Only bad for Darood, I guess[/quote]


I'm for Somaliland's independence, but my point is without the faqash bombing of civilians in Hargeisa and Burco, Somalilanders would have less reasons to strive for independence, Somaliland would still be part of Somalia without Siyad Bare. I'd rather Somaliland stay with Somalia, but after what happened to them, I don't blame them for leaving the phoking savage southern Zoo-malis

[yawle]

"yawle is kinda right...a lot of Awdal area was controlled by the Turks until the British came from Egypt..."

It is not just Awdal. It was from Waqdariya in Sanaag to Zaylac in Awdal.

Zaylac was the capital from 13 Century to 16 Century. And then it was moved to Berbera where the Ottoman empire built the greatest buildings including the still in use old Ottoman Market and Mosque. They also built the accient Roman Technolgy water-system which naturally brings water from the highlands of Sheekh to Berbera's water reservior.

[Goljano Lion]

[quote="yawle"]"yawle is kinda right...a lot of Awdal area was controlled by the Turks until the British came from Egypt..."

It is not just Awdal. It was from Waqdariya in Sanaag to Zaylac in Awdal.

Zaylac was the capital from 13 Century to 16 Century. And then it was moved to Berbera where the Ottoman empire built the greatest buildings including the still in use old Ottoman Market and Mosque. They also built the accient Roman Technolgy water-system which naturally brings water from the highlands of Sheekh to Berbera's water reservior.[/quote]

what this has to do with Kosovo independence, i dont know why but ppl on Snet always go out of topic