Hypothetical/Philosophical Question

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

Suppose there's a man who committed a murder in cold blood...there was no reason for it, no justification and it was 100% intentional. The next day, he gets into a car accident and gets amnesia. At the hospital, the doctors determine he lost all his memory and any tendencies he had before the accident, so he is just as likely to commit murder again as any one of us is. The doctors also determine he will never get his memories back or any of his previous tendencies so he is basically a new person now. The police show up at the hospital that night and positively I.D him as the man they were looking for in the murder investigation. Should they arrest him and charge him with murder?

The main thing to consider is if he is still the same person that committed the crime...and what makes him the same person, his mind or his body?

p.s. the man ain't Somali so he doesn't have any qabiil...in case it was gonna influence ur decision.

[Shirib]

If he is crazy now, I think he should be left alone and not killed, even though he wasn't when he did the crime.

Just my 2 cents.

[Abdi_westldn]

Well yes he should go to jail he still killed even though his memory is gone..he still killed and a person is still died so yes he deserves jail.

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

so is jail meant to punish people for their crimes or rehabilitate them? if it's to punish them, why should someone get punished for something they have no knowledge of doing...if you sleepwalk and kill somebody, would it make sense to punish you for doing something you're unaware of and wouldn't do now?

if jail is meant for rehabilitation, then the accident already served that purpose and the man is medically proven to be at the same risk of reoffending as any other law abiding citizen so putting him in jail wouldn't make him any less dangerous than he already is

[HooBariiska]

sheekda af somali plz ku qor

kumaan fahmina

[Abdi_westldn]

young man memory doesnt justify a person's innocense a family's lost a brother/father/sister/mother or whoever he killed so we have a dead person family who deserve justice so as punishment it should either be jail or death penalty depending on where the person's at.

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

[quote="Abdi_westldn"]young man memory doesnt justify a person's innocense a family's lost a brother/father/sister/mother or whoever he killed so we have a dead person family who deserve justice so as punishment it should either be jail or death penalty depending on where the person's at.[/quote]

yeah but that man is gonna sit in a cell for 25 years not knowing why the fukk he's there...wouldn't he become a 2nd victim of the crime if he's locked up for it?

question tho sxb, do u think he's still the same person that committed the crime if his mind is not the same mind anymore?

[Goljano Lion]

[quote="Mr. Yungnfresh"]Suppose there's a man who committed a murder in cold blood...there was no reason for it, no justification and it was 100% intentional. The next day, he gets into a car accident and gets amnesia. At the hospital, the doctors determine he lost all his memory and any tendencies he had before the accident, so he is just as likely to commit murder again as any one of us is. The doctors also determine he will never get his memories back or any of his previous tendencies so he is basically a new person now. The police show up at the hospital that night and positively I.D him as the man they were looking for in the murder investigation. Should they arrest him and charge him with murder?

The main thing to consider is if he is still the same person that committed the crime...and what makes him the same person, his mind or his body?

p.s. the man ain't Somali so he doesn't have any qabiil...in case it was gonna influence ur
decision.[/quote]

he is born again, a new chapter has begin for him
and his old deeds doesn't matter

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

[quote="Timo_Case"]sheekda af somali plz ku qor

kumaan fahmina[/quote]

nin baa nin kale dilay...markaasna 'aksiident' buu gale oo Ilaahay baa maskax tiray

hadii askariga qabtaan asago isbitaalka ku dhex jiro, maxkamad ma la saara mise waxaa la dhahaa isla ninkii ninka toogtay ma aha oo ha la sii daayo...dakhaatiirta waxay dhaheen, ninka wax ma xasuusto, waligiisna ma xasuusan doono ee waxay u badantahay inu qof kale dilin


my Somali ain't as on point as it used to be LOL

[Abdi_westldn]

[quote="Mr. Yungnfresh"][quote="Abdi_westldn"]young man memory doesnt justify a person's innocense a family's lost a brother/father/sister/mother or whoever he killed so we have a dead person family who deserve justice so as punishment it should either be jail or death penalty depending on where the person's at.[/quote]

yeah but that man is gonna sit in a cell for 25 years not knowing why the fukk he's there...wouldn't he become a 2nd victim of the crime if he's locked up for it?

question tho sxb, do u think he's still the same person that committed the crime if his mind is not the same mind anymore?[/quote]

He is still him though like you might not be the same person anymore but you still are yourself his lack of memory cant justify his walking freely I say he deserves to suffer just like the family of the victim are suffering.

[HooBariiska]

[quote="Mr. Yungnfresh"][quote="Timo_Case"]sheekda af somali plz ku qor

kumaan fahmina[/quote]

nin baa nin kale dilay...markaasna 'aksiident' buu gale oo Ilaahay baa maskax tiray

hadii askariga qabtaan asago isbitaalka ku dhex jiro, maxkamad ma la saara mise waxaa la dhahaa isla ninkii ninka toogtay ma aha oo ha la sii daayo...dakhaatiirta waxay dhaheen, ninka wax ma xasuusto, waligiisna ma xasuusan doono ee waxay u badantahay inu qof kale dilin


my Somali ain't as on point as it used to be LOL[/quote]

waad mahad santahay, nin wacan baad tahay

and yes ur somali sucks nin yahow loool

laakin, nin, nin kale dilay sida soomaalida, waa guilty..no matter waxii ka danbeeyay. haduu masax beelay ka dib, still nin buu dilay..
ninku dilay reer iyo ehel buu lahaa...markaaa waa guilty
laakin ganaax, ilamaha aha qof masqax ama xasuusti ka luntay in la diloo...

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

[quote="Abdi_westldn"]He is still him though like you might not be the same person anymore but you still are yourself his lack of memory cant justify his walking freely I say he deserves to suffer just like the family of the victim are suffering.[/quote]

abti its not just about him losing his memory, he also lost his past tendencies so he isn't any more likely to kill someone than anyone of us is...he's not the same person anymore that killed that man so he should be treated accordingly...it ain't fair to punish someone just because somebody has to take the fall

[Abdi_westldn]

Nor is it fair that he remain's blameless.

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

what if the guy who's locked up could have been the guy who found a cure for aids or cancer...? lockin him up aint gonna make society any safer and at the end of the day, regardless of what he becomes, he isn't the same guy who committed the murder since his mind aint the same person anymore and thats what makes us who we are