Somali Unity

[Avos]

I was asking myself if this idea is really workable given how divided the Somali people have been and are. Being a ethnically from Somaliland, I do believe it is possible and very desirable, but not in the sense that many other Somalis view it.

Due to the war, and clan issues I believe the plight of the Somali people can only be lifted through the establishment of at least 3 autonomous nations. Konfur, Somaliland, and Puntland. Alot of people try and down play the actual significance of clan politics and try to shove it under the rug, but lets face it certain regions have legitimate grievances, grievances that can not be over looked. Whether its the plight of reer Konfureed, reer Somaliland, or reer Puntland. The Somali clans need time to heal and build trust. A united Somali people can not be established through coercion. What will be the out come, when in the end the one you are relaying on is working towards your very end, simply because you did not take into account his struggle during the war. In fact not recognizing your brothers pain and suffering. And again that leads us back to where we began. Somalis that hate each other.

Many Somalis talk of unity only siting violence to bring all of the clans together and this can only prolong our struggle and even worse annihilate our poor and struggling populations. Something our enemies are more than willing to help with.

To me a nation is not only a political idea that started in Greece, it is a common linage, a people that hold common beliefs etc... Because of this we are already a nation. Irregardless of whether it involves a nation state as viewed in the West.

Just look at how previous leaders have failed when trying to use violence against our populations. Seead, Adullahi Yussuf. People do not like being told about Somali unity when its only a tool to subjugate them. And the result is that they resist. That is what reer Konfureed are doing and good for them! That is what Somaliland is doing and good for them! Wise leaders unite their populations, they build bridges. Ignorant leaders only seek their own gains, short sightedness the nigger syndrome.

There is a different way of uniting all Somali populated areas and that can only be through peace, justice and time. Somalis need to sit together (I exclude the warlords) and iron out their differences in a respectful and holy manner.

Ask yourself if Nigerian, Ugandan, and Ethiopian soldiers are really needed to bring peace or to install a puppet government.

Am I the only Somali who's stomach turns at the sight of Ethiopian and worse Nigerian and Ugandan soldiers in our former Capital Xamar? Please tell me, what insanity and drunken hatred of ourselves has brought us to this point in time?

If you want Somali unity then strive to see every Somali as your kinsman and hold his rights as close as you hold your own. If you cannot do this forget about Somali unity because it was never present within you to begin with.

Are we really Muslims, have we been acting as Muslims? Or have we been acting like Jahils? Whether we are in Somaliland, Puntland, Konfur, Djabouti, NFD, Ogadeen, and Makhiir etc... lets try and first treat each other as brothers and build dialogs without all the rhetoric perhaps that is the point God is trying to get across to us. There can be no unity without the free will of all parties included. A faulty foundation always leads to problems in the end, just look at us and where we are now due to what we overlooked before.

[kampuli]

What's your other nick...?

[The-Screw]

i lost interest in reading this piece after you mentioned ''the establishment of at least 3 autonomous nations". the theory is detrimental to the somali people and it defeats the purpose of this "somali unity" you speak of.

[Avos]

Think outside the box what is Somali Unity when Somalis are fighting against you? You did miss the whole point. Unity is not only sharing a flag. Unity is in the hearts of the Somali people, and that can only be won through peace and justice and it may even mean having many small united Somali nations that as a whole show greater strength economically, politically, and militarily. But again that requires you to think outside your box. Are you going to kill other Somalis to get a greater Somalia and how long do you think that greater Somalia is going to last because of that? Look at where we are now, take a good look at our history.

I dont have another id actually I just joined, I have read a few posts on here and I finally decided to post something.

[The-Screw]

there is no point in the division and creation of multiple states without first having a "nation". Somalia is ONE and will remain ONE, that is final.

[Avos]

What is it that remains? My Question to you is are you willing to kill other Somalis because they dont have the same idea of what unity is? Who says what is a nation? The people do. Many of Somalis from different areas have decided not to have anything to do with your version of Somalia. So what are you going to do kill them, force them. Again how long do you think this will keep your ilk in power? And what will be your ilks fruits after you are overthrown just look at what Seead and Adullahi Yussuef have brought on their people do you want to do that all over again only this time to you clan? How many more cities have to be destroyed? How many more Somalis have to die?

Your building Somalia on tooth picks

[Navy9]

"A faulty foundation always leads to problems in the end, just look at us and where we are now due to what we overlooked before."

True...

[surrender]

the only way we can have somali unity is through ISLAM; islam is the answer to all the problems and as long as we ignore the answer which is right infront of us; the longer we going to suffer. the sooner we decide that this whole trible things is not the answer to peace and prosperity, but war and arnarchy. the better for us.

[kambuli]

Screw, quote " i lost interest in reading this piece after you mentioned ''the establishment of at least 3 autonomous nations". '

Wallaahay the same here...Exactly when I reached that sentence, then I stopped!

AVOS,

Maxaa lakala qaybiyaa ee meesha yaal walaal? We are only 8-9million!!! My God..The same as one of the 50 States of USA!!!

[Avos]

Again Einstein said that Insanity was doing the same thing over and over again (A united Somali state) only expecting new results.

At what point are you going to look at the Somali populations acknowledge what has been dividing us (qabiil, bad government) and letting the people heal instead of trying to force this never existent Somali Unity? Again none of you have had the balls to answer by Question. Would you as a Somaliwayne supporter kill other Somalis if they refused to support a greater Somalia? And if you do use force how long do you really think a divided people can have a nation? Just look at our past if any segment is divided it leaves us weak. So just speaking about Somali Unity without any clear plan of discussing the actual issues is retarded! Again its the same reason why Ethiopians are in Somalia and now Ugandans and now again Nigerians! Wake the hell up.

[Avos]

8-9 million and how long do you think that number will survive at the rate that they are being killed off without any solution to solve the real problems? Again shallow and empty words dont build a nation, Somali unity was lost a long time ago. we are only trying to pick up what is left.

If we have to give up this lie of somali unity just so our population can live a good life, so our children wont be sold off, so our shores wont be robbed why not, each man to his own. How long do you think that meager 8-9 million will last in the current conditions?

[Xaaji_Xundjuf]

there is a diffrence between somalia unity and somali unity

lets get that straight

[jadowcubeed]

somalin unity ?? give me two years to think about it

[galia]

[quote="The-Screw"]i lost interest in reading this piece after you mentioned ''the establishment of at least 3 autonomous nations". the theory is detrimental to the somali people and it defeats the purpose of this "somali unity" you speak of.[/quote]

Me too i lost interest immediately when he mentioned the three autonomous nations.

I don't think he's Somali, you never know he might be Ethiopian pretending to be Somali

[galia]

[quote="Avos"]8-9 million and how long do you think that number will survive at the rate that they are being killed off without any solution to solve the real problems? Again shallow and empty words dont build a nation, Somali unity was lost a long time ago. we are only trying to pick up what is left.

If we have to give up this lie of somali unity just so our population can live a good life, so our children wont be sold off, so our shores wont be robbed why not, each man to his own. How long do you think that meager 8-9 million will last in the current conditions?[/quote]

If we break up, what would stop ethiopia intimidating the small states one by one?

United we are strong enough to protect ourselves from Ethiopia