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I think there's no point in having a corrupt government if it leads to civil war. What's the point of repeating the cycle of civil wars brought by a corrupt government?

The only thing worst than having no government is to have a FAKE GOVERNMENT

Corruption and government go hand in hand, what matters is the degree of corruption.

It depends!!!

If you have 18 yrs of chaos, lawlessness, looting, raping..then any form of authority is better than none.

Humans are prone to doing evil things when they have nothing to fear..or consequence of their actions..be it God and/or an authority on this earth.

Rebel-Lion1 wrote:Corruption and government go hand in hand, what matters is the degree of corruption.

We are talking about a corrupt government that could lead to civil war.

The worst is a puppet government

eternauta wrote:

Rebel-Lion1 wrote:Corruption and government go hand in hand, what matters is the degree of corruption.

We are talking about a corrupt government that could lead to civil war.

So all african governments?

Adan*5 wrote:The worst is a puppet government

Or a FAKE government that doesn't even control 5 kms of anywhere in a country!

Rebel-Lion1 wrote:So all african governments?

We aren't talking about corruption on a personal level; that's to be expected in politicians. We are talking about a corruption that leads to civil war.

Koronto91 wrote:

Adan*5 wrote:The worst is a puppet government

Or a FAKE government that doesn't even control 5 kms of anywhere in a country!

True

eternauta

Your not making sense pal. How can the current government lead somalia into a civil when the country has been in chaos for close to two decades? Be more specific, corruption is part of politics and government, and anyone who expects the TFG to be a perfect government is not being realistic.

Rebel-Lion1 wrote:eternauta

Your not making sense pal. How can the current government lead somalia into a civil when the country has been in chaos for close to two decades? Be more specific, corruption is part of politics and government, and anyone who expects the TFG to be a perfect government is not being realistic.

You are talking about corruption in politics, management, etc. I'm talking about corruption in the bones of most members of the TFG. They aren't only corrupts, they are also war criminals, warlords, thugs, etc. There's no hope in these people. They are the ones who have been destroying Somalia for the past +15 years, from killing, wounding and raping civilians, to dumping toxic waste into Somalia lands, sea and ocean. This isn't about having a government at any cost, for Somalis have lived without one for more than 15 years. During those +15 years, the worst period Somalis have experienced (still experiencing) is from the start of the invasion/occupation by Ethiopia to the present day. The international community didn't care about Somalia for more than 15 years. The international community didn't mind warlords such as Hiraale, Ali Mahdi, Qaanyare, Morgan, AY, Yalaxoow, Caydiid Jr., Finish and others to rule and ravage Somalia for more than 15 years. The international community only become interested when those warlords were kicked out of Somalia to border of Ethiopia and Baydhabo.

99 people dying is better than 100 people dying

yungnfresh wrote:99 people dying is better than 100 people dying

100 people will die anyway. It's better to die with class, though.

100 people dying is better than 101 people dying

and what kinda class was there in dying during a lawless pre-TFG Somalia for 17 years?