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Jimmy Carter sympathetic to the Palestinian cause?
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:51 pm
by zackabdul
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080414/ap_ ... ael_carter
Even after being pressured by the US to denounce and pleaded with him to join them in dehumanizing Hamas, he is still going to meet with Khaled Meshaal in Syria. Although his attempts seem hopeful, what sucks is the fact that he's old and can pass away soon not to mention the possibility the Zionists could assassinate him any second now.

Re: Jimmy Carter sympathetic to the Palestinian cause?
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:30 pm
by Grant
Jimmy Carter has been GREATLY underestimated. The Israelis are snubbing him because he is trying to level the playing field.
Remember his book, "Peace not Apartheid"?
Now, what was that about?
Re: Jimmy Carter sympathetic to the Palestinian cause?
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:34 pm
by Shirib
I think its a little late, he's not President anymore
Re: Jimmy Carter sympathetic to the Palestinian cause?
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:38 pm
by FAH1223
Grant wrote:Jimmy Carter has been GREATLY underestimated. The Israelis are snubbing him because he is trying to level the playing field.
Remember his book, "Peace not Apartheid"?
Now, what was that about?
I have the book, myself
Too bad he is saying all of this 30 years too late, not when he was dealing with Egypt-Israel
Re: Jimmy Carter sympathetic to the Palestinian cause?
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:43 pm
by KlashneFolk
He is a closet demagogue. I have no sympathy for either him or his new found religion. He is phony and a lousy one at that too.
Re: Jimmy Carter sympathetic to the Palestinian cause?
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:46 pm
by Grant
Shirib,
Reagan and that sandstorm in the Iranian desert put an early end to Carter's Presidency.
Since then, however, if Carter has "observed" an election, and said it was fair, the results have rarely been challenged. In the case of his book, he is one of very few Westerners voicing the Palestinian position. In the case of speaking to Hamas, I feel he is setting an important example. Who else has noticed and is saying the playing field ain't level?
He may not have the big power any more, but that is one voice they are not going to silence. I say more power to him. We are at a watershed in history; the next President could just follow his lead.......
Re: Jimmy Carter sympathetic to the Palestinian cause?
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:12 pm
by Grant
http://www6.comcast.net/news/articles/w ... el.Carter/
Carter did broker the Egyptian peace deal in 1979. I see this as just a continuation of that effort. If he had had more time......
Re: Jimmy Carter sympathetic to the Palestinian cause?
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:59 pm
by eternauta
Hamas or any Islamic movement should never trust individuals like Carter. He's trying to create fitnah with the scope of weakening Hamas. Hamas should declare him persona non grata. And Somalis should denounce and distance themselves from him. He's none other the man who encouraged MSB to invade Ogaden while promising (only to renege) to supply Somalia with weapons and arms. Down with Carter!

Re: Jimmy Carter sympathetic to the Palestinian cause?
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:11 pm
by Cawar
Ooh the irony..
Eternauta...the notion that we as muslims can never trust a non muslim and or broker a deal in the interest of our ppl is just nonesense..
Muhammed CSW himself had made deals with all kinds of ppl..no wonder why ppl label you as Takfiri
Carter is doing a good and sincere job and in what he believes to be fair and just..and I applaud him for the initiative.

Re: Jimmy Carter sympathetic to the Palestinian cause?
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:29 pm
by eternauta
Cawar wrote:Ooh the irony..
Eternauta...the notion that we as muslims can never trust a non muslim and or broker a deal in the interest of our ppl is just nonesense..
Muhammed CSW himself had made deals with all kinds of ppl..no wonder why ppl label you as Takfiri
Carter is doing a good and sincere job and in what he believes to be fair and just..and I applaud him for the initiative.

Read well and don't jump to hasty conclusions. I didn't say we Muslims shouldn't trust any or every non-Muslim. Somalis have dealt with Carter; I didn't suggest to not trust him out of the blue.
Re: Jimmy Carter sympathetic to the Palestinian cause?
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:46 pm
by Grant
" He's none other the man who encouraged MSB to invade Ogaden while promising (only to renege) to supply Somalia with weapons and arms."
Wa been.
Carter had absolutley no reason to trust MSB, who had just switched sides, again ( You do remember 1969?) , and promised him only defensive arms. Even this stopped as the SNA crossed into the Ogaden and then proceeded past the Ogaden towards Harar and the highlands. (You did notice those moves were not defensive?)
The American position has always been that the Russians created a mess in Somalia they were then allowed to clean up. Carter stopped the arms shipments when MSB went into offensive mode. This particular acusation is false and needs to go away.
Re: Jimmy Carter sympathetic to the Palestinian cause?
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:11 pm
by KlashneFolk
eternauta wrote:Cawar wrote:Ooh the irony..
Eternauta...the notion that we as muslims can never trust a non muslim and or broker a deal in the interest of our ppl is just nonesense..
Muhammed CSW himself had made deals with all kinds of ppl..no wonder why ppl label you as Takfiri
Carter is doing a good and sincere job and in what he believes to be fair and just..and I applaud him for the initiative.

Read well and don't jump to hasty conclusions. I didn't say we Muslims shouldn't trust any or every non-Muslim. Somalis have dealt with Carter; I didn't suggest to not trust him out of the blue.
Very well said. Carter was and still is a bastard in my book
Re: Jimmy Carter sympathetic to the Palestinian cause?
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:12 am
by gurey25
Hillary clinton before her husband became president was seen as pro palestinain and pushing ofr a fair deal.
After she becomes first lady, he positions moves towards isreal and is seen as moderate.
after she ran for senate in NY, there is a remarkable change in her rehtoric..
she sometimes looks more extreme than likud.
Carter has no responisbilities now, he is a private person and he is able to speak his real thoughts.
Re: Jimmy Carter sympathetic to the Palestinian cause?
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:54 pm
by KlashneFolk
gurey25 wrote:Hillary clinton before her husband became president was seen as pro palestinain and pushing ofr a fair deal.
After she becomes first lady, he positions moves towards isreal and is seen as moderate.
after she ran for senate in NY, there is a remarkable change in her rehtoric..
she sometimes looks more extreme than likud.
Carter has no responisbilities now, he is a private person and he is able to speak his real thoughts.
The bytch got some money a Palestinian group, and the Israeli lobby forced her to give back the money and denounce it as a "blood money."