Should Puntland schools teach Evolution?
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Should Puntland schools teach Evolution?
Should schools in Puntland teach their youth the theory of evolution?
I'm a strong believer in evolution, for well over a year now. I believe the kids should wait, however.
What's your take?
I'm a strong believer in evolution, for well over a year now. I believe the kids should wait, however.
What's your take?
Re: Should Puntland schools teach Evolution?
You mean elementry and high schools? Nope, the whole concept of evolution is murky and although scientists will have you believe it's not just a 'theory' when in fact it's just that like all science.
There is no need to confuse somali kids with uncertain theories. Let's stick to the hard sciences, and maths.
There is no need to confuse somali kids with uncertain theories. Let's stick to the hard sciences, and maths.

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Re: Should Puntland schools teach Evolution?
Evolution theory is underprovided hypothesis used by scientists 2 clarify the existence and origin of life in terms of mere coincidences. They believe there was a mechanism in nature that animated lifeless objects and produced millions of different living species, Lol. Even cartoon-generators won't take on such scenario. Thus, there's no point in teaching such a misleading theory.....
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Re: Should Puntland schools teach Evolution?
Starting from a tiny bacteria that was lodged inside an asteroid that hit Earth not long ago, that single set of bacteria and the different types that surrounded it, became the basis for the evolution of life on Earth.Ureysoo wrote:Evolution theory is underprovided hypothesis used by scientists 2 clarify the existence and origin of life in terms of mere coincidences. They believe there was a mechanism in nature that animated lifeless objects and produced millions of different living species, Lol. Even cartoon-generators won't take on such scenario. Thus, there's no point in teaching such a misleading theory.....
Take for example (and this was the inspiration for Darwin's original theory) a human sperm cell. Its a tiny little piece of bacteria that is disposed by teenage boys by the thousands of gallons daily. It has no value to anyone.
But, this sperm cell, which looks like all sperm cells, can later evolve depending on the DNA coding it receives, be it human, frog, or a shark. That is the miniature model for the greater evolution theory. Not all the facts have been gathered and there are new conclusions every day, but they are the closest to scientific truth as possible and the only answer we have currently on the basis of life, our current stage, and where it is headed.
Re: Should Puntland schools teach Evolution?
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Are you saying the world started by a baceteria lodged in an asteriod, how exactly did that bacteria survive? The whole concept of amoeba to man does not make sense, and evolutions relies on many random occurrences. It's impossible to completely change the genetic make up of a species, let alone from a simple omeoba to a complex human. Only thing possible is bringing forth already existing genes because of environmental pressure.
For example and I'm sure you've seen this example before 'sugar beets in the early 1800's had a 6% sugar content, by selective breeding, the sugar content was increased to 17%. But that was as far the breeders were able to stretch the genome and the could not create a potato from sugar beets.' And evolutionists are trying to convince people all the complex cosmos, the animals, plants, microbial creatures, the arrangements of the planet, the galaxy itself were all random.
And If evolution is real, why hasn't there been new species formed? A lot of these so called scientific theories explain observations after the fact and come up with clever nomenclature, science itself is a religion. Evolution is no different than creationism, the only difference is religious people don't try to manipulate others by convincing people that they have a monopoly on fact.
Are you saying the world started by a baceteria lodged in an asteriod, how exactly did that bacteria survive? The whole concept of amoeba to man does not make sense, and evolutions relies on many random occurrences. It's impossible to completely change the genetic make up of a species, let alone from a simple omeoba to a complex human. Only thing possible is bringing forth already existing genes because of environmental pressure.
For example and I'm sure you've seen this example before 'sugar beets in the early 1800's had a 6% sugar content, by selective breeding, the sugar content was increased to 17%. But that was as far the breeders were able to stretch the genome and the could not create a potato from sugar beets.' And evolutionists are trying to convince people all the complex cosmos, the animals, plants, microbial creatures, the arrangements of the planet, the galaxy itself were all random.
And If evolution is real, why hasn't there been new species formed? A lot of these so called scientific theories explain observations after the fact and come up with clever nomenclature, science itself is a religion. Evolution is no different than creationism, the only difference is religious people don't try to manipulate others by convincing people that they have a monopoly on fact.
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Re: Should Puntland schools teach Evolution?
You are correct about the first part, humans did form from bacteria. If it is possible for men to go from tiny sperm cell to large creatures in just months, it is possible for the same to happen over several billion years when our species was born.
Like I said, the evolution theory is new and is being heavily revised and renewed and it will never be fully conclusive since we have updates every new day. But it is the best-known and most widely recognized and praised theory of human origins and the history of the world as we know it.
Every child in Puntland deserves to at least know that.
Like I said, the evolution theory is new and is being heavily revised and renewed and it will never be fully conclusive since we have updates every new day. But it is the best-known and most widely recognized and praised theory of human origins and the history of the world as we know it.
Every child in Puntland deserves to at least know that.
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Re: Should Puntland schools teach Evolution?
Paidmonk
take this topic to the generals, and you will find out how somali's feel about evolution. Although I agree, it's good to teach people all 'perspectives', where it gets murky is when these scientists wanna convince people that evolution is fact.
take this topic to the generals, and you will find out how somali's feel about evolution. Although I agree, it's good to teach people all 'perspectives', where it gets murky is when these scientists wanna convince people that evolution is fact.
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Re: Should Puntland schools teach Evolution?
--- "Starting from a tiny bacteria that was lodged inside an asteroid that hit the Earth not long ago, that single set of bacteria and the different types that surrounded it, became basis for the evolution of life on Earth" ---
Loool, and where did that bacteria come from?. 4 ur info. science has yet 2 discover how even 1 protein molecule could actually have come into existence by natural processes. Beside it's quite apparent that a living object can not be produced from anything other than another living thing. According 2 ur scenario --- The bacteria managed 2 survive and mixed with the lifeless objects surrounding it and formed the 1st human!!!.
Darwin's theory assumes life arose out of random production of proteins, which is impossible. It's obvious, that genetic mutation either produces no noticeable change or causes death. Therefore, Darwin's theory seems so ridiculous since it relies on random point mutations creating lots of biological advantages. U know that scientists found out that the ratio of useful proteins 2 possible random proteins is 1:10500, consequently (barring incredible fortune) it would take about 10500 trails 2 produce 1 useful protein when a cell needs a minimum of 1 to 2 thousand proteins. In this case, life certainly appeared on earth 2 quickly 4 Darwin's theory of evolution 2 be utterly accurate.
Furthermore, the thought of species advancing due 2 the surrounding environment is beyond my grasp. For example --- Darwin claimed humans are evolved apes. So, how come certain apes evolved 2 humans and the rest stayed exactly the same, although they were all exposed 2 the same environmental changes!!!. Plus, depending on genetic make-ups and chromosomes 2 actually show the similarity between men and apes is completely out of the mark. Given that "mosquitoes and chickens" also have similar genetic make-up 2 humans, and potatoes has the same number of chromosomes of a man "46", so can we say humans are evolved potatoes!!!, Oh, maybe Isaaqs are, Lol......
Loool, and where did that bacteria come from?. 4 ur info. science has yet 2 discover how even 1 protein molecule could actually have come into existence by natural processes. Beside it's quite apparent that a living object can not be produced from anything other than another living thing. According 2 ur scenario --- The bacteria managed 2 survive and mixed with the lifeless objects surrounding it and formed the 1st human!!!.
Darwin's theory assumes life arose out of random production of proteins, which is impossible. It's obvious, that genetic mutation either produces no noticeable change or causes death. Therefore, Darwin's theory seems so ridiculous since it relies on random point mutations creating lots of biological advantages. U know that scientists found out that the ratio of useful proteins 2 possible random proteins is 1:10500, consequently (barring incredible fortune) it would take about 10500 trails 2 produce 1 useful protein when a cell needs a minimum of 1 to 2 thousand proteins. In this case, life certainly appeared on earth 2 quickly 4 Darwin's theory of evolution 2 be utterly accurate.
Furthermore, the thought of species advancing due 2 the surrounding environment is beyond my grasp. For example --- Darwin claimed humans are evolved apes. So, how come certain apes evolved 2 humans and the rest stayed exactly the same, although they were all exposed 2 the same environmental changes!!!. Plus, depending on genetic make-ups and chromosomes 2 actually show the similarity between men and apes is completely out of the mark. Given that "mosquitoes and chickens" also have similar genetic make-up 2 humans, and potatoes has the same number of chromosomes of a man "46", so can we say humans are evolved potatoes!!!, Oh, maybe Isaaqs are, Lol......
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Re: Should Puntland schools teach Evolution?
Starting from a tiny bacteria that was lodged inside an asteroid that hit Earth not long ago, that single set of bacteria and the different types that surrounded it, became the basis for the evolution of life on Earth.
Take for example (and this was the inspiration for Darwin's original theory) a human sperm cell. Its a tiny little piece of bacteria that is disposed by teenage boys by the thousands of gallons daily. It has no value to anyone.
But, this sperm cell, which looks like all sperm cells, can later evolve depending on the DNA coding it receives, be it human, frog, or a shark. That is the miniature model for the greater evolution theory. Not all the facts have been gathered and there are new conclusions every day, but they are the closest to scientific truth as possible and the only answer we have currently on the basis of life, our current stage, and where it is headed.















Ureysoo wrote:Beside it's quite apparent that a living object can not be produced from anything other than another living thing.
Darwin's theory assumes life arose out of random production of proteins, which is impossible. It's obvious, that genetic mutation either produces no noticeable change or causes death. Therefore, Darwin's theory seems so ridiculous since it relies on random point mutations creating lots of biological advantages. U know that scientists found out that the ratio of useful proteins 2 possible random proteins is 1:10500, consequently (barring incredible fortune) it would take about 10500 trails 2 produce 1 useful protein when a cell needs a minimum of 1 to 2 thousand proteins. In this case, life certainly appeared on earth 2 quickly 4 Darwin's theory of evolution 2 be utterly accurate.
Furthermore, the thought of species advancing due 2 the surrounding environment is beyond my grasp. For example --- Darwin claimed humans are evolved apes. So, how come certain apes evolved 2 humans and the rest stayed exactly the same, although they were all exposed 2 the same environmental changes!!!. Plus, depending on genetic make-ups and chromosomes 2 actually show the similarity between men and apes is completely out of the mark. Given that "mosquitoes and chickens" also have similar genetic make-up 2 humans, and potatoes has the same number of chromosomes of a man "46", so can we say humans are evolved potatoes!!!,......









Beside it's quite apparent that a living object can not be produced from anything other than another living thing.









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Re: Should Puntland schools teach Evolution?
pseudoscientist: make the best scientist!









Re: Should Puntland schools teach Evolution?
Yes.
Puntland should be a progressive state where different P.O.V.'s are discussed and taught in schools so our children can learn to think for themselves. Evolution is only the first step.
Puntland should be a progressive state where different P.O.V.'s are discussed and taught in schools so our children can learn to think for themselves. Evolution is only the first step.

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