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Greatest Leader of the 20th Century

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:57 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Chairman Mao Zedong of the People's Republic of China for taking a divided nation uniting it, kicking out foreign invaders and creating a strong national identity:

His ruthless vision united a fractured people and inspired revolutions far beyond China's borders

May Somalia get a Chairman Mao Zedong :up:

http://www.time.com/time/time100/leader ... e/mao.html

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Re: Greatest Leader of the 20th Century

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:00 pm
by eternauta
AbdiWahab252, you nominate a communist leader as the greatest leader of the 20th century over great Sufi leaders like the Mad Mullah?

Re: Greatest Leader of the 20th Century

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:01 pm
by Cawar
Sayid Mohammed and MSB ..I can consider ppl like these as great leaders. :up:

Re: Greatest Leader of the 20th Century

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:02 pm
by AbdiWahab252
eternauta,

Sheik Sayid Abdulle Hassan (AUN) did not achieve his dream. I do admire his tenacity but his vision did not come to fruition.

Cawar:

Leaders are admired for what they leave behind: strong societies and powerful nations

Re: Greatest Leader of the 20th Century

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:02 pm
by SummerRain
Cawar wrote:Sayid Mohammed and MSB ..I can consider ppl like these as great leaders. :up:
I agree. :roll:

Re: Greatest Leader of the 20th Century

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:14 pm
by Sadaam_Mariixmaan
AW252,

Call me Young Mao, but I follow the Sunnah and Quraanka Ihaaye SWT

Re: Greatest Leader of the 20th Century

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:17 pm
by Sadaam_Mariixmaan
Ismahan123 wrote:
Cawar wrote:Sayid Mohammed and MSB ..I can consider ppl like these as great leaders. :up:
I agree. :roll:
Caydiid (AUN) failed to follow up with his Kacdoon

Re: Greatest Leader of the 20th Century

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:32 pm
by QansaGabeyle
Mao. :up: :up: to all nationalists.

Re: Greatest Leader of the 20th Century

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:34 pm
by Brav3Heart
I agree with AW, we need a dictator like Mao, whos only for the interest of Somalia not foreign countries. Somalia has the potential to be like how it was in the 60s and 70s both economic and military wise but we need someone to rule it with an iron fist.

Re: Greatest Leader of the 20th Century

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:36 pm
by Sadaam_Mariixmaan
Brav3Heart wrote:I agree with AW, we need a dictator like Mao, whos only for the interest of Somalia not foreign countries. Somalia has the potential to be like how it was in the 60s and 70s both economic and military wise but we need someone to rule it with an iron fist.
:up:

Re: Greatest Leader of the 20th Century

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:37 pm
by Boqor__Daarod
mao killed over 2 million chinise muslims

do you still think he is great?

Re: Greatest Leader of the 20th Century

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:44 pm
by paidmonk
Cawar wrote:Sayid Mohammed and MSB ..I can consider ppl like these as great leaders. :up:
I actually think Siad Barre should be in the top 50. Easily. I don't believe in nationalism, and neither did he. We both believe in the absolute destruction of fake European borders and a return to our ethnic/tribal homelands -- the way things were.

But, I think that the greatest leader in the 20th century was Vladimir Lenin. This guy turned a confederation of quiet Slavic tribes into the strongest force in history, both ideologically (communism) and militarily (red army). Lenin is also the most copied man in the 20th century, easily. Mao was nothing compared to Lenin. There would be NO Mao without Lenin!

Re: Greatest Leader of the 20th Century

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:36 pm
by Alchemist
Caydiid (AUN) :up:

Re: Greatest Leader of the 20th Century

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:18 am
by fagash_killer
[quote="Brav3Heart"]I agree with AW, we need a dictator like Mao, whos only for the interest of Somalia not foreign countries. Somalia has the potential to be like how it was in the 60s and 70s both economic and military wise but we need someone to rule it with an iron fist.[/quote]


and make the same mistake as siyaad barre did? if you cant learn from your past and the mistake you made they say it could repeath.

Re: Greatest Leader of the 20th Century

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:15 am
by Grant
[quote="paidmonk

But, I think that the greatest leader in the 20th century was Vladimir Lenin. This guy turned a confederation of quiet Slavic tribes into the strongest force in history, both ideologically (communism) and militarily (red army). Lenin is also the most copied man in the 20th century, easily. Mao was nothing compared to Lenin. There would be NO Mao without Lenin![/quote]

Lenin was the ideologue, but he was ill when they actually came to power and was controlled by Stalin, who was "Secretary" of the party.

The single essay question that was the final in my Russian History exam in college was, "Was Stalin necessary?" The answer that got the most points was that he was, if Russia was to be united and be in a position, with help, to defeat the Germans in WWII.