A Reminder for our Believing Women

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A Reminder for our Believing Women

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subhanAlllah a very beautiful khutbah that really got to me and inshallah you sisters will benefit;

http://www.calgaryislam.com/imembers/Se ... age-1.html
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I HOPE THE SISTER IN HERE WILL SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS LECTURE...


THANKS FOR THE TOPIC :up:
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Inshallah sister.

This Khutbah is very powerful as it warns us as women to take it upon ourselves to adhere to the teachings of the Prophet Sallahu Alyewasalam and to stay in our homes and cover ourselves and teach our children.

And not to dress and act like the kuffar women but to come back to islam not just outwardly but inwardly...

but i cannot do the khutbah justice so inshallah read as it is really powerful!!
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As-Salaamu 'alaykum wa Rahmatullaahi wa Barakaatuh sister :mrgreen:

Jazakallah khair for sharing that with us :rose:

Subxanallah it's so true, the best place for a women is her home! and it's sad when you hear alot of sisters saying 'when I get married I'm not going to be no 'HOUSE WIFE', i'm going to be INDEPENDENT and WORKING'

Yaa RABI :( , may Allah(swt) guide us all to the straight path.
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Wa'Iyaki Ukhtii...mashallah its good to know that there some Somali sisters who agree and are not brain washed by Western influences.

Subahan'Allah the beauty of staying in our homes and gaining knowledge of this Deen is indescribable...I love Islam and truly it is a Blessing from Allah that we are muslims!
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Asalaamu alaykum sistaz. I agree, i dnt even lyk leaving the house it feels lyk im Exposed walahi!!

InshaAllah, may Allah subhanaWata'ala let us be and among the best women in Islam! Ameen!

I wanted to ask do any of u srz go to uni? and if u do the what do they say about niqaab?
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Asalama Alaikum Sister


First and foremost going to Uni equals free-mixing right?

And as women and men it is forbidden to free mix, is it not possible for you to do like and open course you can study from your Home...as for the Niqab, the opinion of it is mixed, some Ulema say its obligatory and others say its optional, if you are going to Uni with it sister then Mashallah but then again remember that this is something you are doing Fisibili'Allah (for the sake of Allah)
So its conditions should be met and free-mixing is not one of them, for think that you teacher and perhaps fellow students will be male and coming home after lectures sometimes night time can be a bit dangerous ukhtii.

Inshallah i'll try and get you the correct proof for whether a sister can attend uni and the issue of Niqab, what i have stated above is what the Ulema mention.
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SALAMZ SISTERS AND BROTHERS

JUST WANTED 2 MENTION DAT U COULD GO UNI AND STILL WEAR A NIGAAB
DERS A SISTER IN MY COURSE AND SHE WEARS IT ALL DA TIME AND SHE DNT GET HUSSLED

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slew dem

do you still wear that mini skirt to uni ? :?
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Asalamu alaykum, I'll watch it sometime soon insha'Allah barak'Allahu feeki sister. :)
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quote="UponSallafiyya"]Asalama Alaikum Sister


First and foremost going to Uni equals free-mixing right?

And as women and men it is forbidden to free mix, is it not possible for you to do like and open course you can study from your Home...as for the Niqab, the opinion of it is mixed, some Ulema say its obligatory and others say its optional, if you are going to Uni with it sister then Mashallah but then again remember that this is something you are doing Fisibili'Allah (for the sake of Allah)
So its conditions should be met and free-mixing is not one of them, for think that you teacher and perhaps fellow students will be male and coming home after lectures sometimes night time can be a bit dangerous ukhtii.

Inshallah i'll try and get you the correct proof for whether a sister can attend uni and the issue of Niqab, what i have stated above is what the Ulema mention.[/quote]


Assalamu Alaikum Sister!!

I just want to give another view.. It is in no way a disagreement to yours because I fully agree. :)
But education is important! Any Scholar or Sheikh living in the west will empthasis the importance of women going to seek education of any kind, whether that is a basic degree in University or College etc. There are many open courses and InshaAllah more ideal. But as for university, it depends how strong you are. I remember in university, although there were men in my class, I spoke to none. There was hardily any and the few about there was no need for me to communicate with them unless it was complusory, but it wouldnt be a 'nice chat'. So it really depends on your degree, for example some degrees are populated with men like Engerinering or Finance. Living on Campus is another issue altogether and that is not what I am refering to here. I know that University is somewhere many sisters grow and develop in thier deen and overall development. MashaAllah many of them if not all Uni's located in London have Islamic Societies and they all work together.. Many bonding in sisterhood takes place with in each.
As for the overall trying to avoid men, you can not do this. SubhanAllah if I could I would. Lool. Even later on after education assuming you want a job, you will have to come into contact with men, but the thing is it is not for anything else other than work-related.. its not out of pleasure nor for fun but necessity. Ok, I know the shaydaan may work through this but the importance is dhikr of Allah and strong Eman, and SubhanAllah get married to prevent yourself from this. It will hopefully save you, and this will also sort out your travelling problem (or ofcourse if you have a car yourself, or live close to uni)

We must remember that many of our women in Islam did come into contact with men. Many of the Rusullah(saw)'s companions would go to Aisha (ra) for guidance after his death and she would adivse them. As a widow ofcourse she would do it discretly by fully covering herself and hiding behind the door etc. But another example is the time when Rusullah (saw) and his companions were in the desert and they saw the wife of Az-Zubayr ibn al-'Awwam radi allahu anhu, Asmaa who is also the daughter of Abu Bakr As-Siddeeq (ra) {btw both Abu Bakr and Az-Zubayr are two of the 10 companions promised paradise, Glory be to Allah!}... anyways she was carrying loads of date-stones on her head travelling for miles, and ofcourse the generousity of the Rusullah (saw) and his beauty offered her to ride on his camel and they will walk and follow behind. He offered her a ride being the daughter of his best companion and because of his bounty. She declined because Mashaallah tabarakallah of her Gheerah (an Arabic word which means protectiveness or jealousy) her modesty, she thought that if she accepted her husband would be jealous and to save him the shame. She remembered her husbands Gheerah and he was a man having the most Gheerah. On return, Upon this az-Zubair said: ''By Allah, the thought of you carrying date-stones upon your head is more severe a burden on me than you riding with him.'' (related in Sahih Bukhari)

Now, 3 things from this SubhanAllah her modesty, we should embrace this and may Allah make us like this.Ameen.
Secondly the Rusullah (saw) offered her a ride, even getting the camel to sit so she could mount it. He welcomed her that far? Him & his group of companions.. This is was necessity!!
And thirdly, look, my point excatly.. she remembered her husband!! Marriage is a big thing and saves us from so much. Its important for us and our eman.

In terms of business transactions and dealings, men and women have always been in contact.
Btw.. I recently heard (dont know the proof for it, sorry forgot) that EVEN if a women is wearing the Veil she is allowed to remove it in front of the man she is dealing with in the transaction so he can see her 'honesty' and sincerty. Because ofcourse as you may be aware of in Islam business dealings are a big time. SubhanAllah.
Khadija (ra) the mothers of the believers, one of the 4 women promised paradise was a business woman and she dealt with men and women everyday.. And it was a hard job. Read her bio if you can she is amazing.


Sorry for the brag. Hope that i've at least made a little sence. :oops:
All in all when your considering Uni and any other type of Knowledge and stage in life purify your intensions and seek assistance from Allah azzawajal. What are you going to uni for?
WaSalaam
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Ukhtii...first and foremost there are NO SCHOLARS living in the West, they all reside in the Middle east.

As for Removing the Niqab infront of Non-mahram men....sister if a woman is not even allowed to remove in front of her Brother-in law what makes you think its permissible for her to do it in front of complete strangers??

As for Khadeeja Radi'anlah'anha, she hired Men to do her transactions for her, and please remember ukhtii that this was in the Pre-islamic time before the revelations started.

Inshallah provide proof on where you got the removing of the niqab inshallah as these days there are alot of bidah going around.

And beware of the so-called ''shiekhs''.

Also with the issue of working...sister men and women cannot free mix, there is no exception, besides strict necessity.

The female companions would wear jilbabs so wide that they were not recognized...and they would never free-mix and Aisha Radi'anlah'anha would sit behind a screen when she was teaching the men and put her finger in her mouth to hide the awra of her voice.

As the Prophet Sallahu'Alyewasalam said ''all of the woman is awra''

Now the Ulema's have looked at this recent phenomenon of women going Uni etc and Inshallah i will post the fatawa shortly regarding this...and yes we must seek knowledge but sisters there is no reason for you to learn such things as technician etc as this is not realistic and does not help the Ummah, we should be focusing on things like mid-wifery, nursing, Islamic ilm (and this is the Ultimate position) As Ilm in Islam is better than praying sunnah prayers.
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Question:

Can a girl pursue studies in the sciences, in fields such as Chemistry, Physics, etc?
Answer:

A women should not specialize in a field that is outside of her realm. She has the opportunity to pursue many fields that are suitable to her, like Islamic Studies or the Arabic Language. Fields such as Chemistry, Engineering, Architecture, Astronomy and Geography do not suit her. A women should choose what benefits her and that which benefits society. Furthermore, men need to establish institutions for women that will prepare them for those fields that they need to study, Gynecology and pre-natal care being important examples.

Shaykh `Abdul-`Azeez Bin Baz
Fatawa Islamiyah vol.8, p.128, DARUSSALAM
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Jazak'Allahu khayr for ur posts srz.

I want to do midwifery by the way.

I was reading on a website: http://www.fearthedunya.wordpress.com, a question-answer by someone and Shaykh Uthaymeen and basically he thinks that mixed-education is not right. However, he also says that this is his opinion and others may think differently.

I dont know whats going on with this issue but all I know is we r alwayz free-mixing anyway even in work and college. How can a girl who is not married support herself otherwise, Allah only knowz her intentions and if she will ever marry! I dont wanna get on the dole and if I sit around hooyo and aboo will go nuts!lol! Athough I like staying at home I cant see myself doing a course @ home or midwifery coz there are placements.

May Allah guide us, subhanAllah!
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Assalamu Alaikum
Suhaib Webb and Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips - MashaAllah . As for the Sheikhs who are great students of knowledge May Allah bless them, such as Towfiq Choudhry, Yasir Qadhir, Mohammed Al Shareef they reside in the west, have been brought up here, but studied in the east like many and I know that many youngesters and elders alike look up to them for gudiance.

Living in the west is different to the east sis, no doubt. You can not always refer to rulings that would apply in the east in muslim countries because living in the west we are faced with different circumstances therefore the rulings are different. We have to limit the fitna to ourselves and Allah does not want to put us through hardships. How can we give dacwa if we hide away and put our two fingers up at any so-called kufar? That is not the attitude. Women should get education but she should never be distracted from what Allah has blessed her with, the nurturing and bearing children and raising a family. I do not condom free mixing it is wrong and mentioned in the sunnah of the rusullah (saw) and quran. So who am I to say it is? Istagfurulah. Unless it is a necessity I said.

As for the removing of a Niqaab, hold your horses sis, I'm not embracing because I dont know much about it, but as I said I heard this! I've heard it twice. And the explanation was that I had given. Also note that in business transactions different rulings apply, the only time you are allowed to say 'rude' things about someone is in two instances. 1st, upon a marriage proposal. If someone asks you for marriage you are allowed to ask others about him and it is compulsory for them to tell you the truth even if it is bad, this is not considered backbitting or slander. In fact hiding it is worse. The same applies to the other case of partners. Partners in business! You have to know who you are going into business with; you need to know they are reliable and safe. So for you to generalise and say you can not take your niqaab off infront of your brother in law is patronising. Ofcourse you cant! What would the reason be? SubahanAllah. For business I can see how so, because its a partnership, shes not allowed to chat to him and keep her niqab off casually. The sheikhs i've heard it from said it was for a short while and to see her sincerity! Thats it!! Like I said in business different rules apply apparently. Anyways that's what I've heard and that's the reasons behind it, I also find it a little uncomfortable and needs more research InshaAllah. Allah knows best.
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