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Unclassified State Department Document on Somalia

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:54 pm
by guhad122

Re: Unclassified State Department Document on Somalia

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:56 pm
by Goljano Lion
this is Nixon era, old school stuff

Re: Unclassified State Department Document on Somalia

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:09 pm
by Advo
looool, rageediii........I like his aggressive answers and questions and the white guy was like, we dont like ur attitude towards us specially in south africa. :lol:

Re: Unclassified State Department Document on Somalia

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:16 pm
by Awe
Advo,

Whoever that Kassim guy was, I loved his responses. Man, Somalia was a country back then. Fock!

Re: Unclassified State Department Document on Somalia

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:20 pm
by guhad122
Advo;
I know that Voltage will blast me in reading this amazing piece of history because Dr. Hussein A/Kadir Kassim happens to be Ogadeen. Walaahay I don't have an interest in his clan, but his patriotic stance. It just blew my mind how bravely this man stood against Kissinger. When other African leader talk to American officials, they kneel down first. NOT US Maryooleey. The sad thing is Dr. Kassim was the man doing all the international work for Somalia, and you rarely see his name mentioned.

He tells Kissinger that American is giving over 200 million a year in milary aid to Ethiopia. It is interesting how the numbers are close given the inflation is adjusted. US had provided the weapons and the money that enabled Ethiopia to occupy Somalia.

Re: Unclassified State Department Document on Somalia

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:29 pm
by Awe
They were on the phone? Mise face-to-face?

Re: Unclassified State Department Document on Somalia

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:32 pm
by guhad122
They met face-to-face in Kissinger's apartment in New York.

Re: Unclassified State Department Document on Somalia

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:36 pm
by Awe
Oh shid, I just realized Kissinger is that fockin jew that committed major war crimes in Asia and other parts of the world. :o

He was the Secretary of State. I knew I heard his name somewhere.

Re: Unclassified State Department Document on Somalia

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:19 pm
by RIIGHAYE
The biggest mistake Bare ever made was to alienate and disenfranchise major clans inside Somalia but give significant administrative posts to Somalis from Ethiopia and Kenya in the pursuit of an expansionist and irredentist policy. Other than his dictatorial rule, this historic policy came back to haunt the rest of Somalis.

Re: Unclassified State Department Document on Somalia

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:29 pm
by Awe
^ Your angry about the fact that Barre didn't heavily recruit your kinsmen into his administration. Then why didn't you take up arms against the tyrant regime and follow your brothers to the east of you?

Re: Unclassified State Department Document on Somalia

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:32 pm
by Advo
:lol: :lol:

Re: Unclassified State Department Document on Somalia

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:39 pm
by Awe
Advo,

I'm going to spit in your food next time you're at Marwa.

Re: Unclassified State Department Document on Somalia

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:05 pm
by guhad122
Riig-Haye;
Siyadd Barre himself was born in Shilaabo and as we know it, Shilaabo is on the side of the fake boundary. You are a sick person who needs classes on patriotism and nationality. Both Ogadenia and NFD belong to Somalia and anyone from these regions is Somali first.

Re: Unclassified State Department Document on Somalia

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:16 pm
by Voltage
Guhaad maxaad Riighaaye/Absame/Wareer uga xanaaqi? Maxamed Siyaad dawladiisi Ogaadeen buu u baaba'iyey adiguna you dare come here everyday and say "why did SIyaad invade Ogaden and make things worse for us". Amazing wallahi. Xabashi oo dumarki dhameeyey siday u faraxumeynayeen, raga xiniinyaha uga tutumanayeen, baa weerar holac ah lagu qaaday and we would have defeated them forever if the communists did not come adiguna Mareexaan nacayb baad maalinkasto la timaadaa "Siyaad made life worse for us". War noloshee ayaad haysate adigoo Jigjiga iyo Dire Dhaba agteeda dego markii Mareexaanki Wardheer iyo xuduuda u dhawaaba xiniinyaha looga tutumanayay? Runta qof kuu sheego waad u baahantihiin, jaahilyaho caasiga ah. Jaahil duloobay baad tahay oo caasi ah. Siyaad Barre wuu awoodi all his resources inuu ku shubo SOmalia iyo kursigiisa but instead LIBIN IYO SHARAF ayuu ka doortay and for that taariikh buu ku jiraa aan la iloobin.

As for the document, it stresses everything I believe. Somalia waabay ahayd wadan, yeeyda maanta isku sheegeys madaxdena janatorial in loowada diro ayay istaahilaan.

Re: Unclassified State Department Document on Somalia

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:35 am
by Nolol cusub
"The biggest mistake Bare ever made was to alienate and disenfranchise major clans inside Somalia but give significant administrative posts to Somalis from Ethiopia and Kenya in the pursuit of an expansionist and irredentist policy. Other than his dictatorial rule, this historic policy came back to haunt the rest of Somalis."


tragic but humorous



Someone can swear Barre borrowed these tactics from Mahamed Abdulle Hassan and Maxkamadahana borrowed these tactics from Barre. :lol:

Mr. Abdulle Hassan increased his odds of losing Somalia to Foreign imperailst and their local stooges when he simultaneously waged unnecessary local/religious wars against northern and southern Somali clans, particulary when he was about to face a much bigger and smarter enemy.

The traditional somali tactics of facing the enemy: :lol:

When the enemy is at the gates, destablize the rear by settling pointless religious/old clan scores.




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