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THEOCRATIC SATE OR DEMOCRATIC STATE please choose one.

Post by abgaalKING »

if u have to choosse between the two
a theocratic state headed by a hawkish ultra-islamist who suppresses women`s rights,freedom of speech and the freedom of political views(marxism,secularism wht ever u chose).
and a democratic state headed by a democratically elected government who advocates liberty,freedom and equality for all.
which one would you have chosen :?: :?:

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My choice would definitely not be option A; Ultra-Islamist Fundamentalist Theocratic Authoritarian state. There is no precedent in the history of Sunni Muslims for such a state.

I think the best option for Somalia is as following;

- A very small Federal Government that deals with a few issues; Defence (in the Swiss manner), dealing with other Foreign Governments on governmental issues, and other areas which a Federal Government is required.
- Abolish the differing States of Somalia that exacerbate clan related political problems.
- Each substantial City will administer itself and its surrounding countryside.
- City Councils will restrict themselves to such areas as Law Enforcement, Fire Prevention etc.
- The Judicial System (based on Shariah) is completely independent to run its affairs and appointments.
- Government sits back and watches as the free market begins to transform Somalia into some semblance of peace and prosperity.

In this way, power is decentralised, so there is never to be a repeat of Siad Barre or the ineffective clowns before him. Clans will probably stop fighting over a position that doesn't confer much power. Government interference in the lives of people is kept to an absolute minimum.
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Post by WabarLibaax »

XEER SOOMAALI

I will agree to some extent with Padishah (the King?) I guess. I will support a very limited central government. A federal goverment designed to foster symbolic somali unity, defend somali interests outside.

But, but.... somalis have been around for more than a thousand years and have what we call our XEER. XEER is uniquely somali, is readily acceptable to almost all somalis. Somali XEER is highly comparable to the English common law which has been the basis of the laws of the UK, the US and many ex-british colonies. Our XEER was developed over hundreds of years by our ancestors and can easily be codified and modified in order to come up with a modern adaptation. Somalis everywhere are proud people. We can become the first african nation to come up with what is truly indigenous Xeer Soomaali is truly the Somali COMMON LAW As for Islamic laws being adapted... Democracy failed in the 60s, Dictatorship failed, Islamic sharia will also fail because all are alien to our people. Therefore lets a city clan council, a regional clan council, a local clan council.

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Funny thing about the Common Law there is that a goodly portion was taken from the experience Sicilian Normans who invaded and conquered Britain along with their French Duke, William.
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well,the ICU is against federalism which most somalis are in favour of. :roll:
the left wing of the ICU called alshabab are now fully recognized as terror group. :arrow:
also the tfg is also a corrupt one. :lol:
but my question how can an internationally recognized terror group liberate somalia.!!! :down:
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It can't.

We must also stop associating Shariah with these guys. They give a rather nasty feel.
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padishah

if we mix allah with tribal politics the result is fidno,mass destruction of towns etc.
these terror group must be eliminated asap :down:
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i have always had my suspicians about al shabaab.they fulfil the same role for ethiopia as al qaeda does for the USA.

both groups are used as a pretext for invaision and occupation,they(al shabaab)kill more civillians and disrupt life for ordinary civillians,than they cause to ethiopia.


if they were serious about wanting ethiopia to leave somalia,why don`t they hold a cease fire,which will call the ethiopians bluff about wanting to stabalise somalia before leaving.it would cost them nothing
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well,is there any link between alqaidah and alshababa :?:
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only the link,they(al shabaab), claim ie ideological .

moreover,it seems far to convenient for ethiopia,to have this pretext to invade and remain.

even before the ethiopians invaded,they were more or less invited to invade somalia,by icu absurd and ludicrous statements to the world media.
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an alqaedah official called al libi praised alshabab and asked all globol jihadists who are unable to go to afganistan,iraq to go to somalia :| :down:
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