I never in my life relaxed in the presence of my father..

[fisabililah]

Assalamu A'leykum, brothers and sisters i thought i would share with you this short piece from the great shiekh Abdullah Yusuf Azzam (rahimahuallah), and i am in need of the advice contained in it more then others.Inshallah we will benefit.

The Shiekh (rahimahuallah) states,

'O Allah, teach us manners ! O Allah, teach us manners ! One person is sitting next to his father, one leg on the other, sitting with his feet facing his father ! Why ? By Allah, one of our teachers in the Islamic Movement in Jordan entered a gathering and saw one of the youth sitting back, one leg over the other. He said to him, Why are you sitting like this ? Is this the Sunnah ?' Does it make sense that Islam tells you to do this ? Is it possible ?

It is reported in the Sahihayn that when Fatimah would enter the dwelling of the Messenger of Allah, he would get up for her, hug her, and spread a mat on the ground for her to sit on. Fatimah was a fourteen year old girl.

Because of this, I wish that we and our youth would read the fatawa. Whatever Ibn Taymiyyah says, we accept. Ibn Taymiyyah is the Shaykh of the Salafiyyin, we accept whatever he says. Ibn Taymiyyah says, 'It is allowed to stand up out of respect for those who are people of position and righteousness.'

Likewise, AnNawawi wrote a book on this topic, titled atTarkhis bilQiyam, (The Allowance of Standing) which is a full book in which he brought many authentic ahadith, and said that this is what such and such scholars agreed on including Ahmad bin Hanbal and Malik that they would stand up in such situations.

So, gatherings require an attitude of respect. One of our brothers said to me, 'I never in my life relaxed in the presence of my father, because I consider this to be bad manners in respecting the parents. If he would order me to do something, or speak to me about anything, I would stand between his hands until he would finish what he wanted to say. Then, I would wait either for he or my mother to allow me to leave.''

Manners ! O Allah, teach us manners !

Fi Dhilal Surat atTawbah, p79 Shiekh Abdullah Azzam.

[Lil_Cutie..]

WaAlaikum Salaam Wr Wb
SubhanaAllah, how easily we forget to give them thier due rights..


One point laakin sister, isnt it the case of the khalifa's particularly Umar (ra) that he detested when people stood up when he entered the court room, and when a woman was unhappy with his rulings (she felt she was forgotten about or mistreated) he was more than happy to go to court in order to be just to his people. SubhanaAllah.

And I cant remember what khalifa this was but, he was sleeping in the masjid(or i think outside?) and someone came and kicked him physically telling him you can not sleep here get out, and he calmly collected his stuff and left. When asked why he did so and didnt tell the man who he was he said that was one of the best momments of life because it crushed my nafs. It brought me back to reality, I am no more important than him


SO, basically what I am trying to say is these people were the most nobellest of men after the prophets. They hated people giving them too praise because this would lead to arrogance. SubhanaAllah. But show respect and be humble to those with knowledge and are righteous InshaAllah as Allah loves them and chosen them to carry his deen.. But some people over step the mark and follow Scholars and Madhabs blindly. If the Khalifa's disliked anyone doing those things why should we over do it to the schoalrs?

[eyes-only]

You should respect your parents laakin I don't think there's any need to act like you're constipated around them.

[Lil_Cutie..]

The Holy Prophet, who spoke only that which had been revealed to him, addressed Fatima in these words: "h Fatima! Allah, the Mighty, the Exalted, is angered at the one who makes you angry and is satisfied with the one who pleases you".

She was possessing of life, honour, beauty and high stature, living under her father's care. It was such a unique relationship that it made the Prophet's later wife Ayesha, marvel at it and proclaim: "Never have I seen anyone more like the Messenger of Allah in his solemn way {of standing and sitting} than Fatima" she added, "When she {Fatima} came in the room to see him, he { The Holy Prophet} would rise to his feet, take her hand, kiss her and seat her where he was seated . And when he came to see her, she would stand up, take his hand, kiss him and seat him where she was seated". Nothing can be said more than that he was born and brought up in the household of the Holy Prophet (P).

[Starscream]

The Holy Prophet, who spoke only that which had been revealed to him, addressed Fatima in these words: "h Fatima! Allah, the Mighty, the Exalted, is angered at the one who makes you angry and is satisfied with the one who pleases you".

She was possessing of life, honour, beauty and high stature, living under her father's care. It was such a unique relationship that it made the Prophet's later wife Ayesha, marvel at it and proclaim: "Never have I seen anyone more like the Messenger of Allah in his solemn way {of standing and sitting} than Fatima" she added, "When she {Fatima} came in the room to see him, he { The Holy Prophet} would rise to his feet, take her hand, kiss her and seat her where he was seated . And when he came to see her, she would stand up, take his hand, kiss him and seat him where she was seated". Nothing can be said more than that he was born and brought up in the household of the Holy Prophet (P).

This almost brought tears to my eyes. Thank you, can't wait to have my own daughter Insha Allah.

[djibsomali]

The salafi school of taugh is unsomali
and not from our dhagaan.

It is purely supported by the house of AL saud for the own sake.

The call other muslim as none believer and promote only the saudi king.

That is the school of taught who said that a muslim leader cannot be overtrown.
hence the unislamic saudi famillies kingdom can rule makkah and medina with their fist.

And behead somali youth for not paying a taxi fair and let go any westerner who is guilty of a crime.
the same school of taugth who harbor american army to the sole of mohamed (PUH).

[Lil_Cutie..]

The salafi school of taugh is unsomali
and not from our dhagaan.

I just had to stop there. What Salafi' school of taught??

Firstly there is NONE.

Secondly, correct yourself InshaAllah in the terminology of 'Salaf' ..this is a beautiful term one very much misused today unfortunatly.

[djibsomali]

The salafi that we all know.

The one that saudi arabia finance it.

[Lil_Cutie..]

The Holy Prophet, who spoke only that which had been revealed to him, addressed Fatima in these words: "h Fatima! Allah, the Mighty, the Exalted, is angered at the one who makes you angry and is satisfied with the one who pleases you".

She was possessing of life, honour, beauty and high stature, living under her father's care. It was such a unique relationship that it made the Prophet's later wife Ayesha, marvel at it and proclaim: "Never have I seen anyone more like the Messenger of Allah in his solemn way {of standing and sitting} than Fatima" she added, "When she {Fatima} came in the room to see him, he { The Holy Prophet} would rise to his feet, take her hand, kiss her and seat her where he was seated . And when he came to see her, she would stand up, take his hand, kiss him and seat him where she was seated". Nothing can be said more than that he was born and brought up in the household of the Holy Prophet (P).

This almost brought tears to my eyes. Thank you, can't wait to have my own daughter Insha Allah.

The story of Fatima bint Muhammad is amazing .. SubhanAllah!! Allah granted her paradise!
Its a bit long but read this, its a nice read and soo benefical, if you weeped with just those examples, have a whole packet next to you for this;

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/history/bio ... AMMAD.html

InshaAllah let me know what you think.

May Allah strengthen my Eman and character to be like her, the female version of the Rusullah (saw)!!. Ameen.

[Muwahhidah_1]

You should respect your parents laakin I don't think there's any need to act like you're constipated around them.

Acting the way Abdullah Azzam (rahimahullah) explained just shows the level of respect you have for your parents. Your statement sounds very out of line. May Allaah forgive me if I am wrong.

[1nemansquad]

One day he summoned Fatimah. When she came, he kissed her and whispered some words in her ear. She wept. Then again he whispered in her ear and she smiled. Aishah saw and asked:

"You cry and you laugh at the same time, Fatimah? What did the Messenger of God say to you?" Fatimah replied:

"He first told me that he would meet his Lord after a short while and so I cried. Then he said to me: 'Don't cry for you will be the first of my household to join me.' So I laughed."

Not long afterwards the noble Prophet passed away. Fatimah was grief-striken and she would often be seen weeping profusely. One of the companions noted that he did not see Fatimah, may God be pleased with her, laugh after the death of her father.

One morning, early in the month of Ramadan, just less than five month after her noble father had passed away, Fatimah woke up looking unusually happy and full of mirth. In the afternoon of that day, it is said that she called Salma bint Umays who was looking after her. She asked for some water and had a bath. She then put on new clothes and perfumed herself. She then asked Salma to put her bed in the courtyard of the house. With her face looking to the heavens above, she asked for her husband Ali.

He was taken aback when he saw her lying in the middle of the courtyard and asked her what was wrong. She smiled and said: "I have an appointment today with the Messenger of God."

Thank you Lil-Cutie.

[fisabililah]

WaAlaikum Salaam Wr Wb
SubhanaAllah, how easily we forget to give them thier due rights..


One point laakin sister, isnt it the case of the khalifa's particularly Umar (ra) that he detested when people stood up when he entered the court room, and when a woman was unhappy with his rulings (she felt she was forgotten about or mistreated) he was more than happy to go to court in order to be just to his people. SubhanaAllah.

And I cant remember what khalifa this was but, he was sleeping in the masjid(or i think outside?) and someone came and kicked him physically telling him you can not sleep here get out, and he calmly collected his stuff and left. When asked why he did so and didnt tell the man who he was he said that was one of the best momments of life because it crushed my nafs. It brought me back to reality, I am no more important than him


SO, basically what I am trying to say is these people were the most nobellest of men after the prophets. They hated people giving them too praise because this would lead to arrogance. SubhanaAllah. But show respect and be humble to those with knowledge and are righteous InshaAllah as Allah loves them and chosen them to carry his deen.. But some people over step the mark and follow Scholars and Madhabs blindly. If the Khalifa's disliked anyone doing those things why should we over do it to the schoalrs?

Wa alaikuma salaam, firstly im a brother. and your right we are not blind followers of any men other then the messenger of Allah (salalhu aleyhi wasalam). And like Ibn Abbas said ' we take and leave from all men except the companion of that grave (and he pointed at the grave of the rasul)'.so i got no arguments in that. May Allah reward you.

Djibsomali the real followers of the salaf dont follow banu saud, niether do they love them or support them.And the salaf-us-salih are free from the crimes of banu saud. And you will find that most of the shabaab even in jazeeratal arab despise banu saud. its just a few groupies in the west who get excited by the word salafi, yet if you asked them name me 5 tabi'ien they wouldnt know. so these people dont follow anything but desires, how can a man who claims to follow the salaf, yet he hates jihad in the path of Allah, how can such a man be salafi?

wa alaikuma salam

[Diyeeshaha_Tolka]

u have two salafi groups ,,

salafi-salih and salafi jadiid

hadaa tahay salafi salaih ,ur in right way,,laakiin kuwa la yiraahdo salafi jadiid waxaa soo saaray dowlada saudiga waxay yaabaha ay ku hadlaan waad la yaabaysaa. waxayna aamisan yihiin in ayaga oo kaliya saxsanyihiin and the rest qaldanyihiin.

[eyes-only]

You should respect your parents laakin I don't think there's any need to act like you're constipated around them.

Acting the way Abdullah Azzam (rahimahullah) explained just shows the level of respect you have for your parents. Your statement sounds very out of line. May Allaah forgive me if I am wrong.

There are many ways of showing respect for your parents, like listening to their advice, helping them in anyway you can, even washing and massaging their feet....laakin I don't think not relaxing in their presence is a show of respect in most cases- it could just mean that you're just sh!t scared of them.

How is you being not relaxed supposed to make them relaxed exactly? I'm sorry if you think I'm out of line, but the relationship with my parents is such that if I'm not relaxed in their presence...having a laugh, being myself, they would seriously be worried. Your home and family is supposed to provide a relaxed, loving and supportive environment for everyone to unwind with respect.

[Starscream]

The story of Fatima bint Muhammad is amazing .. SubhanAllah!! Allah granted her paradise!
Its a bit long but read this, its a nice read and soo benefical, if you weeped with just those examples, have a whole packet next to you for this;

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/history/bio ... AMMAD.html

InshaAllah let me know what you think.

May Allah strengthen my Eman and character to be like her, the female version of the Rusullah (saw)!!. Ameen.

Ameen!


Jazakallah Lil Cutie, its a long one, but worth it, I'll read it today Insha Allah and come back to you.