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DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE ETHIOPIA WILL LEAVE?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:22 pm
by Voltage
In the 120 days stipulated and that the U.N is going to automatically provide the necessary peace-keeping forces to facilitate their withdrawal?
Has Sheikh Sharif forever destroyed his name and honor for nothing?
Re: DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE ETHIOPIA WILL LEAVE?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:36 pm
by GENERAL_SNM
The USA is more then happy with the current situation in somalia.No UN soldiers are coming, ethoipia is never leaving somalia.This whole meeting's aim is to create a division in the insurgency, ala hamas and fatah.They will move the goal post till sharif losses all credibility, then disgard him.
Re: DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE ETHIOPIA WILL LEAVE?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:37 pm
by Basra-
The question is: will america allow their secret dream ruined by the removal of ethiopians?? US went to iraq for oil, and sent ethiopians for the oil. I dont think so.

Re: DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE ETHIOPIA WILL LEAVE?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:38 pm
by Alchemist
Shayk has made a big mistake.. Walahi for a long time i defended him when people accused him of secretly working with the enemy but i im not so sure about him anymore..
On BBC interview one of the callers asked him how can he tell the same people he orded to fight till the Ethiopias leave and publically reject them now?
How can he make a deal with the same very TFG he said he wouldnt meet with?
How does he honestly expect the same very UN who allowed Ethiopia to invade Somalia to start with to bring enough troops while they cant even find troops for Sudan?
Why didnt they make deals with TFG while they were stronger in Sudan, why now that the whole country is under Ethiopia's control..
Plus from what is known shayk Shareef doesnt have any power on the ground..
I just spoke to a relative of mine in Xamar last nigth and he tells me the fighters there are now more determined than ever to drive the Ethiopias out, no one will put down their weapons or stop shooting... Most people in the south believe the whole deal is a joke..
Re: DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE ETHIOPIA WILL LEAVE?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:45 pm
by GENERAL_SNM
sheikh sharif=mohamed abbas
Re: DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE ETHIOPIA WILL LEAVE?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:59 pm
by gurey25
some people are so naive,
or they simply believe their own bullshit..
common guys i bullshit too, i come out and say fantastic lies
but i dont believe my one shit...
thats just stupid.
Re: DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE ETHIOPIA WILL LEAVE?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:02 pm
by SomeGuy
Sherif was sell out from get go!. He was not part of the wahabia cult. In fact, he is from Alla Shiekh sect--small Sufia group. He was son-inlaw of the Dahir Awes and of course that is how he jumped the United Islamic Courts bandwagon.
He sold out after he was capture near Kenya border. Since then , he was doing good job of being a mole---CIA payroll.
I am not surprised anything this CIA agent does nor do I have any tiny respect.
Some guy " Trust no man--and of course no woman ever"
Re: DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE ETHIOPIA WILL LEAVE?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:03 pm
by INCONSPICUOUS
i dont know why people are gettn so optomistic
its in ethiopias best interest to leave. when they do whats goin to hapen..... ive seen these sorta agreement being signed before. as soon as there is alittle period of peice theres another argument about who should rule what qabiil hes from etc. governments change but they are mainly the same people from the old government thats have just changed their name. same people different name obviously the same problems are gonna keep comin up
this agreement is not worth the paper its written on
Re: DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE ETHIOPIA WILL LEAVE?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:52 pm
by Shirib
No I really don't think they will leave. The deal isn't decisive enough. Ethiopians are supposed to leave within 120 days, when sufficient UN troops are deployed. Meaning if UN troops aren't deployed they won't leave. Also, what concludes sufficient, since they don't give us a nu,ber.
I don't think they will leave, but I don't think he has destroyed his name. He has done his part of the deal, now its up to the TFG and co. to do there part.
Re: DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE ETHIOPIA WILL LEAVE?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:58 pm
by Young Wadani *
No its just bullsh!t
Re: DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE ETHIOPIA WILL LEAVE?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:13 pm
by wadaniweyn1
Re: DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE ETHIOPIA WILL LEAVE?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:31 pm
by MJ-Pride
The U.N will be the deal breaker. They won' bring any UN troops, and the deal will die subsequently. The only way for a real reconciliation for Somalis is for Qabiil elders to get together and sit under tree and solve the conflict in the traditional reer miye way. An Eritrean and Ethiopian puppets can't change anything. Both of TFG and ICU have no real power on the ground to be honest. Why are they promising something they cant' fulfill? The TFG can't kick out Ethiopia if they want, and the ICU can' tell Al-shabab to stop the madness.
Re: DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE ETHIOPIA WILL LEAVE?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:35 pm
by Murax
Alchemist wrote:Shayk has made a big mistake.. Walahi for a long time i defended him when people accused him of secretly working with the enemy but i im not so sure about him anymore..
On BBC interview one of the callers asked him how can he tell the same people he orded to fight till the Ethiopias leave and publically reject them now?
How can he make a deal with the same very TFG he said he wouldnt meet with?
How does he honestly expect the same very UN who allowed Ethiopia to invade Somalia to start with to bring enough troops while they cant even find troops for Sudan?
Why didnt they make deals with TFG while they were stronger in Sudan, why now that the whole country is under Ethiopia's control..
Plus from what is known shayk Shareef doesnt have any power on the ground..
I just spoke to a relative of mine in Xamar last nigth and he tells me the fighters there are now more determined than ever to drive the Ethiopias out, no one will put down their weapons or stop shooting... Most people in the south believe the whole deal is a joke..
Laakin Alchemist, a lot of people were asking these questions in realtime While they wre happening but were called "Munafiqiin, dhabadilif etc." for doing so. Why must We second guess and ask the questions, hold people accountable when its too late?
Re: DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE ETHIOPIA WILL LEAVE?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:35 pm
by FAH1223
Alchemist wrote:Shayk has made a big mistake.. Walahi for a long time i defended him when people accused him of secretly working with the enemy but i im not so sure about him anymore..
On BBC interview one of the callers asked him how can he tell the same people he orded to fight till the Ethiopias leave and publically reject them now?
How can he make a deal with the same very TFG he said he wouldnt meet with?
How does he honestly expect the same very UN who allowed Ethiopia to invade Somalia to start with to bring enough troops while they cant even find troops for Sudan?
Why didnt they make deals with TFG while they were stronger in Sudan, why now that the whole country is under Ethiopia's control..
Plus from what is known shayk Shareef doesnt have any power on the ground..
I just spoke to a relative of mine in Xamar last nigth and he tells me the fighters there are now more determined than ever to drive the Ethiopias out, no one will put down their weapons or stop shooting... Most people in the south believe the whole deal is a joke..
Thats what I'm saying!
Re: DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE ETHIOPIA WILL LEAVE?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:49 pm
by Cawar
Sh.Sharif was your untouchable hero(most of you somali diid anyways)..
And now that he wised up and made a deal and a compromise to save his ppl..he is a CIA sell out?? WHile Indha Cadde is your new hero??
Gimme A f'kking break. Hate to say this..but this purely HG propaganda..esp..the Ceyr Mafia
Who is left?? Indha Cadde?? Well he is already a CIA agent..
Sh. Shaydan Aweis?? He will either be shot or be forgetten..
Abu Mansur?? He has few confused kids..though I think he is confused too..and will be dealt with unless he makes a deal with the devil.
Anyways, Ethiopia will leave..I have always sustained that..and must leave provided the current gov. is self sufficient and not fighting for Mogadishu's control..