Before Islam, Somalis/Oromo Worshipped Waaq

[AbdiWahab252]

It is said that the Islamic religion spread in Oromia as a reaction to the Ethiopian colonization. The Oromo accepted Islam and non-Orthodox Christianity en-masse because they identified Abyssinian Orthodox Christianity with the oppressor and also to assert their identity vis-a-vis Abyssinians. The Amhara spy monk, Atseme wrote: "The Galla became Muslim for his hatred of Amhara priests." Bereket (1980) also noted, "... Oromos in Arsi province accepted Islam in large number as a demonstration of anti-Amhara sentiment and a rejection of all values associated with imperial conquerors." A somewhat similar situation in the west was the acceptance of Islam by many Afro-Americans in 1950s and 1960s, as a reaction to the racial discrimination and oppression they faced from the white community and in search of an identity different from that of the oppressor group.

http://www.balaams-ass.com/journal/hous ... omoeth.htm


So did the hate for the Abyssinian Empire also lead the Somalis to abandon the worship of Waaq for Islam ? Did our hate for the God of Abyssinia lead us into Islam ?

The Oromo and Somali both worshipped Waaq, the Sky God. There was a sacred bird, the Tuuke, from which our word for prayer comes from, tuuko.

Intresting Links into PreIslamic Somali/Oromos:

http://www.balaams-ass.com/journal/hous ... omoeth.htm
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/the-inex ... igion.html
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/63090

[AbdiWahab252]

More specifically, Waaqeffannaa teaches that

1. Waaqa endowed the Oromos with the Avenue of Peace, Karaa Nagaa, to walk on, 40

2. Waaqa blessed for them with the Gadaa Rule of Law, as promulgated and declared by the Supreme Legislative Organ, Caffee/Gumii, 41

3. Waaqa blessed the Oromos to be men of justice and law-abiding citizens of the Republic of Gadaa Oromoland, 42

4. He blessed them to be a victorious and prosperous nation of numerous progenies, if they follow the Avenue of Peace, 43

5. Waaqa strictly warned them never to cultivate persons of dictatorial ambitions nor to allow the growth of such person among them and so on. 44

[James Dahl]

Waaqa is interesting, it is emphatically monotheistic and yet emphatically African.

I have a theory actually, I believe the Queen of Sheba refers to Soba, a ruined and ancient city of Kush near modern Khartoum, and that Queen Makeda was the real person Kandake Makeda Nicaule, who was a Kushite monarch who lived in the 9th century BCE, and that Axum was actually a Cushite empire, and the Habesha seized power only in the 12th century. Waaqa was the monotheistic beliefs she aquired in Israel and brought home to Kush.

[The_Emperior5]

its just the jebertis with there habartiiwaaq jiidwaaq takalwaaq , and they live in caabudwaaq

I dunnow about other ethnic groups in the Somali regions what they used to worship, Aniga diinta islaamka awoowgay baa ii barray , adiga yaa ku barray abdiwahaab, ma suldaanki cuman

[Voltage]

Illiterates.

Waaq=Afaan Oromo/proto-Sam Cushitic word meaning "God".

Does not describe a SPECIFIC diety.

A general name for "God".

The same way "ilaahay" is Somali for God, God is English for God., Rabb is Arabic for God, etc.

Muslim Oromos call Allah "Waaq" in their language because it means God in the same way Somalis would say "ilaahay" as in "ilaahayoow na samata bixi" or "God relieve our hardship".

[Advo]

[The_Emperior5]

Voltage not exactly these oromos are pagens , they dont know ilahay even the word ilahay is wrong siidiisaba
the right way to say It is allah subxana wa tacalla . ilah waxaad ka dhigii karta ilahooyin wich means gods , god is not allah
God hadaad xurufta dhanka kale uu badashiid wa dog. When allah says every time in his kuran ciid ha ila simina he also means magacayga ciid hala siimina war markaad tasfiirka quraanka sii fican uu baadhiid

[Goljano Lion]

its just the jebertis with there habartiiwaaq jiidwaaq takalwaaq , and they live in caabudwaaq

I dunnow about other ethnic groups in the Somali regions what they used to worship, Aniga diinta islaamka awoowgay baa ii barray , adiga yaa ku barray abdiwahaab, ma suldaanki cuman

like EEbe= God khuda waa af Pakistani which means God

[Voltage]

Emperior you don't understand. It is just a WORD for God, go and ask any Oromo forgoodessake dude.

And Ilaahay is Somali for God regardless of its origins. It means God. When Somalis watch a Buddhist statue in India, a Somali will describe what he says as "hinduda ilaahooda" meaning it is a GENERALIZED name for God whereas a Somali will say "Alle" derived from "Allah" to describe the specific Islamic diety.

Get it?

[The_Emperior5]

anu waan ku fahmay laakin waaq oromadu ilahooda bay ku sheegii jireen risaaladu na may soo ghaadhin markay risaaladu soo ghaadhay ama haday muslimen ayaa waaaq uu yidhahaan jesus xata waaq bay ordhanayaan laakin before that dhir iyo jin roxaan iyo waxaasay cabuudayeen . marka allah suxbnawatacala wuxu yidhi Ciid haa ila simina
When muslim says ama ashahaadu
laa ilaha ilalalah = there is no god but allah . Even allah magaca allah ilahay carabta waa ugu fududeeye siiday uu fahmaan risaalada , wa ilahay nabbi iebrahien caabuudaye laakin carabtu dariiqii saxiixa way ka baydeen uu sannabo bay cabudeen
Because nabbi maxamad abihi waxa la odhan jiiray Abdullah ,Muxammad ibn cabduallah. rissaaladu nabbiga aabihi maay soo ghaadhin markaa siiduuu magaca uu lahaan karra Because wa ilaahii Nabii iebrahien.

Marka what i mean is Waaq is a oromo Jiin god because in 1954 ogadenka kilinka shanad daggan they used to say
waxkalle wajiiga allah iyo wajiiga waaq marka waxay ku tussaysa inu waaq aan Ilaahii Nabbi maxammad na barray shaqo aan ku lahayn

[Cawar]

Voltage not exactly these oromos are pagens , they dont know ilahay even the word ilahay is wrong siidiisaba
the right way to say It is allah subxana wa tacalla . ilah waxaad ka dhigii karta ilahooyin wich means gods , god is not allah
God hadaad xurufta dhanka kale uu badashiid wa dog. When allah says every time in his kuran ciid ha ila simina he also means magacayga ciid hala siimina war markaad tasfiirka quraanka sii fican uu baadhiid

Oromos are Muslim ..at least half of them if not more.

Ilah..and Allah is the same in Arabic and aslo in Hebrew..its Elah. Ilah and Allah both start with the "Alif".
So your Arabic is weak obviously. Next time make sure you dont confuse things that you dont have that much knowledge of.

[Voltage]

Marka what i mean is Waaq is a oromo Jiin god because in 1954 ogadenka kilinka shanad daggan they used to say
waxkalle wajiiga allah iyo wajiiga waaq marka waxay ku tussaysa inu waaq aan Ilaahii Nabbi maxammad na barray shaqo aan ku lahayn

ninkaan caadi maaha

waa yahay sxb, adigaa Habar Awal ah oo Oromo la dego yaqaane

[The_Emperior5]

cawar culumo awdiin say a diffrent thing ilah can be any god it can be my shoe god for good sake
Because ilah in translated in latin wa god , and ilah waxad ka dhigii karta ilahooyin see the difference soo ilaahooyin is gods ma fahantay allah suxbxanna watacalla allah ma baddin kartiid , so ilah is not allah

other wise your shahaada will be all wrong you woudent say

la ilaha ilalah there is no god but allah ma fahantay

Allah is the way to say his name allah said aniga ciid ha ii barbar dhigina
allah has 99 names 99 nameska ugu yeedha

yaa waduud
yaa cazziiz
yaa yabbar
all musawiir
all khafarr
all khafiid

etc

[Voltage]

allah ma baddin kartiid , so ilah is not allah

You are right, if you go back I equated "Ilaahay", "God", "Waaq" to "Rabb" in Arabic because they are all general names.

Allah is the only specific diety that describes a specific diety, something Waaq does not which disproofs the two illiterates in the beginning of the topic.

[The_Emperior5]

allah ma baddin kartiid , so ilah is not allah

You are right, if you go back I equated "Ilaahay", "God", "Waaq" to "Rabb" in Arabic because they are all general names.

Allah is the only specific diety that describes a specific diety, something Waaq does not which disproofs the two illiterates in the beginning of the topic.

waanu is fahanay sax