Great Verse From, Quran for Somalinet

[Murax]

"And it is not befitting to a Muslim man or Muslim woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed something that they would have any choice in their matters, and whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he undoubtedly, has strayed away manifestly"

Surah Ahzab verse 36.


Many a times ayahs, hadiths would be brought forth and I see many of us here argue and present their opinions as if its better than Allah's opinions or better than the Rasul SAW opinion. Many of us don't stop at the book of Allah, or the Sunnah of His Rasul but respond with "But, if, only if, then" presenting counter arguements to the Quran and the Sunnah, wal yacaadu bilah. These people should fear Allah and accept the truth When its presented and be humble. Allah knows best.

[Enlightened~Sista]

thanks for the ayah ..may Allah s.w.t reward you..but what is the point of this thread..im kinda confused..what people are you talking about?

[Murax]

thanks for the ayah ..may Allah s.w.t reward you..but what is the point of this thread..im kinda confused..what people are you talking about?

This is going out to all of us walaal, not anybody inparticular. We're not supposed to call people out in diinta. When ayahs from the quran or hadiths from the Rasul saw are brought forth We must accept them and stop all arguement. Otherwise that person would be arguing with the book of Allah and the sunnah of His prophet.

[*Nobleman*]

yes i agree. A lot of people try and tailor the deen to their needs. Laakin we should simply accept what Allah decrees

[Enlightened~Sista]

okay if its a general advise then alhamdullilah..but the Qur'an and hadeeth are not the same walaal..lets not make that mistake..people can question confusing hadeeths for example.

[Murax]

okay if its a general advise then alhamdullilah..but the Qur'an and hadeeth are not the same walaal..lets not make that mistake..people can question confusing hadeeths for example.

You're dead wrong here. Allah swt says if You love Him, to follow His Rasul saw, Allah also says in surah mumtahainah that in Rasululah saw We have the best example. Allah also mentions in Hashr Allah talks about the people who were opposed to Allah and His messenger. Do not ever make a distinction between the Quran and Sunnah as We learn, understand and implement the Quran the way the Prophet saw tells us to. We follow the way of the Rasul saw and 4 righteous khulafah as Rasululah instructed us to do so.

Btw theres no "confusing hadiths". Rasululah made His hadiths very simple, contrite and easy to understand to the point where simiple bedouins knew what He was talking about. If You're referring to weak or fabricated Hadiths, then Imam Bukhari, Imam Muslim, Ibn Majah etc. have compiled countless authentic Hadiths. Theres no confusion in this deen. Whether We want to follow it or not is up to us.

[precious_dyme]

Mashallah.... jazkallah walaalkiis.

[Sir-Luggoyo]

Waryaa Murax wadaad wuxuu noqday khatar ah, Masha-Allah.

What about Imaams of Masjids who have different interpretations of different axaadeeth or Aayaat? For example, if all Wadaads in Xamar are in sync with their interpretation of the fate of those who made kuffaar their Awliyah, the Jihaad would've had a different meaning and Xamar/Somalia would've been free of Kuffar and Murtads

[FAH1223]

[djibsomali]

I remember someone arguing that imaam shafi is just a person.
and I have a better understanding because i am modern and we should modernise this deen.

Hence gay marriage should be allowed.

[Murax]

Lugooyo,

sxb I'm far from a wadaad and probably more saqajaan as anybody here. Laakin I've seen the most saqajaan people marki ayaad quran ah ama xadiith loo keeno accept it.


As far as whats going on in Somalia and murtadnimo etc. its a complicated issue and its split apart some Somalis. The major scholars however say that in order for someone who helps or works with the kuffar to be a kaffir He must work with them while beleiving in His heart that the way of the kaffir's that He's working with is better than the way of Islam. If He believes that then it is kuffr. Another way is if that person comes out and says as much in a statement. So how does this apply to the mooryaan who are torturing other Somali Muslims with Xabashi for a kilo of qaad, or a meager paycheck? Is He a kaffir? Either way this is an issue for the scholars and in addition to that I try to stay away from waxaala isku khilaafay. Allah knows best.

[Hyperactive]

good topic if people discuss si aqlani ah.

[Alchemist]

Excellent thread.. We need more topics like this.

[Enlightened~Sista]

Murax walaal we have to follow the Qur'an and the Rasul s.a.w but there are some hadeeths that seem so irrational..You will never believe the Prophet pbuh could have said or done such a thing

[Young Wadani *]

Murax walaal we have to follow the Qur'an and the Rasul s.a.w but there are some hadeeths that seem so irrational..You will never believe the Prophet pbuh could have said or done such a thing

Your stupid wallahi, everything the Prophet [SAW] was right and perfect how dare you question the Great Macalin