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Insults and continously arguing (Sufi vs Salafi)
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:51 am
by American Salafi
First of all I am a salafi, Alhamdulilah. I am not one of those misguided muslims that believe that all muslims should unity for the sake of just "uniting" but uniting upon the Haqq.
What I like to say to the salafi brothers and sisters is to be sincere in calling to Allah. If you want to help and show your fellow muslims the Truth, you have to be sincerely doing for the sake of Allah and helping your brother and sisters not for any other reasons. Insulting and talking about useless things won't help but will only make things worse. You have to be patient and have good manners with these people. If they accept what you say, Alhamdulilah, but if not then be patient and don't expect these individuals to understand and accept it overnight.
Finally, Continously Arguing and debating is not advised for people of the sunnah. It only waste time and in many situations harms your imaam. Jazakallah.
Re: Insults and continously arguing (Sufi vs Salafi)
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:52 am
by Padishah
So, to sum up your post, you believe in Unity only on your own terms. Go figure.
Re: Insults and continously arguing (Sufi vs Salafi)
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:55 am
by Firefly
Asalaamu Alaikum walaal,
I don't think you should say I'm a "salafi", I'm a "sufi" or etc. Just saying I'm a Muslim, should be sufficient walaal.
Re: Insults and continously arguing (Sufi vs Salafi)
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:40 am
by surrender
American salafi correct me if im wrong, but arent salafis themselves mis-guided, just like the rest of us? 
Re: Insults and continously arguing (Sufi vs Salafi)
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:14 am
by Haddad
The Ummah's struggle isn't with Sufis or other misguided Muslims. Those misguided Muslims will be re-educated when a Caliphate is established. The real struggle is with non-Muslims, and it's about freeing ourselves from their grip.
Re: Insults and continously arguing (Sufi vs Salafi)
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:26 am
by Padishah
'Re-education' programmes? Those are usually employed by totalitarian dictatorships. Is this the function of the Khilafah?
Re: Insults and continously arguing (Sufi vs Salafi)
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:36 am
by Haddad
Padishah wrote:'Re-educationThose are usually employed by totalitarian dictatorships.
Democracies also employ re-education. For instance, survivors of the Waco Siege have been re-educated (or still under re-education). That pertains to religious people, but re-education is also employed to non-religious people.
Re: Insults and continously arguing (Sufi vs Salafi)
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:51 am
by Somali_4Life
Those who call themselves today ''salafis'' known today by others as Madkhalis are arrogant people. If you dont follow their manhaj and you dont dress like them then they say that you are misguided.
Not all salafis are the same. Only madkhalis misbehave.
May Allah rescue the muslims from the evil sect madkhalism.
However sufis are worser than madkhalis.One commits shirk,the other falls into arrogance.
Re: Insults and continously arguing (Sufi vs Salafi)
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:15 am
by The_Emperior5
why the hell do you call your self salafi . ma islaamkii baad ka baxday , Sufis dont really call them selfs sufis THey call them selfs muslims, Other people call them sufis thats the difference laakin adigu salafi baad isku haysata
Re: Insults and continously arguing (Sufi vs Salafi)
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:23 am
by Enlightened~Sista
lol@ ''First of all Im a Salafi, Alhamdullilah.''
Anyway i agree with you Firefly

Re: Insults and continously arguing (Sufi vs Salafi)
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:35 am
by Executive
American Salafi
Why do you call yourself Salafi?? Why don't you just say that you are a Muslim upon the Quran and the Sunnah with the understanding of the Salaf-us-Saalih. By saying that you are Salafi what is the point?? Are you trying to tell us you adhere to a sect or a movement?? You always talk about the Bidca of the Suufis but what you doing is probably Bidca too ninyahow.
Re: Insults and continously arguing (Sufi vs Salafi)
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:48 am
by Padishah
Haddad wrote:Democracies also employ re-education. For instance, survivors of the Waco Siege have been re-educated (or still under re-education). That pertains to religious people, but re-education is also employed to non-religious people.
Well then, if democracies do it, then it
must me moral, right Haddad? A lot like how water boarding and unlawful detention (Gitmo) is also moral.

Re: Insults and continously arguing (Sufi vs Salafi)
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:31 am
by American-Suufi
Re: Insults and continously arguing (Sufi vs Salafi)
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:20 am
by American-Suufi
salafi-wahabi is a new saudi phenomenon created by mohamed andiwahabi sect.
They fought against othmani Muslim kalifate by edicts issued by non other than bin baz who fought against Turkish Muslims and sided with the British army and created a saudi monarchy. Is he salafi? Whose Salafi? Wahabi.
Compare Saudi men to Saudi females.
Re: Insults and continously arguing (Sufi vs Salafi)
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:49 pm
by Haddad
Padishah wrote:Haddad wrote:Democracies also employ re-education. For instance, survivors of the Waco Siege have been re-educated (or still under re-education). That pertains to religious people, but re-education is also employed to non-religious people.
Well then, if democracies do it, then it
must me moral, right Haddad? A lot like how water boarding and unlawful detention (Gitmo) is also moral.

You mentioned
totalitarian dictatorships, and I mentioned who else employs re-education. I mentioned it because your tone indicated it's only employed by
totalitarian dictatorships. Re-educating, correcting and integrating misguided Muslims would be a moral obligation for the coming Caliphate.