Marexaan Geneolgy is Fascinating

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The geneology groupings are amazing.

Let Me get this straight: A Waghardhac that lives in Mudug, a Talxe that lives in Jubbada Hoose and a Hawarsame that lives in Somali Galbeed are closely related?


A Siyaad Xuseen from Mudug and a Cali Xuseen from Gedo are closely related

A Celi from Hawd and a Habar Cisse from Gedo are also closely related.


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how issent there something like a abtirsimo that makes them close related maan fahmin
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yup. Marehan lives in 3 countries and we all have same abtirsimo unlike the Hutus.

1 hutu abtiris to Sheikh Mazulu Irir Samale

1 hutu abtiris to Sheikh Madakiris ibn Hawiye al-Hutu

1 hutu abtiris to Sheikh Jarero ibn JarerWeyn

but when they face Marehan they all claim Hawiye like 1991
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What about beesha Diini, dont forget the clan the ugas is from we are everywhere :lol: :lol:
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Habar Ciise do not live in Gedo.

Remember the genealogy tree I posted sketched circa 1925 by an Italian anthropologist. Even though the info was drawn from a Reer Gedood, still fairly accurate.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111 ... aology.gif
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Warsame some haber-ciise live in Gedo, in meykaareebee, but also they live in Mudug and another part of them in galbeedka!
You know odeygi Warwaajecle aha had the kid at a very old age,by then musse was a grandfather he was the youngest and he married celi's widow oo habar aheyd at a young age.

Murax, all those clans are not more closely related to eachother then they are to you, except for you when you go to khalaf-hussien, inta kale wey ku siman yahiin. Wagerdhac/talxe amaanreer are the brothers of Radimiir amaanreer (your forefather), except waa isku bah. Celi and [haber]Ciise Warwaajecle are not more closely related to each other then they are to you because you descendant from Muuse Warwaajecle. And cali-xusseyn and siyaad-xusseyn are not more related to each other to me because Khalaf-xusseyn was my forefather. Ma fahamtay. Only bah bah wise can they be more related like khalaf hussien and siyaad hussien waa isku bah, or talxe and wagerdhac waa isku bah.

Lakiin we all lived by each other its just that when we all headed south some just stopped at the central region, some went further west, and some further south!
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HERE IS MY LINEAGE LISTING! I think its very accurate, if there is a mistake correct me people.
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DAROOD wuxu dhaley:
AHMED (SADE), -Maxamed(Kablalax), Xuseen(Tanade),Yuusuf(Awrtable), iyo Ciise

SADE wuxuu dhalay:
Marexaan iyo Facaye

MAREXAAN wuxu dhalay:
Awsame iyo Uurmidig

AWSAME wuxu dhalay:
Baalyiri

BAALYIRI wuxu dhalay:
Hodenbari

HODENBARI wuxu dhalay:
Galshiredle iyo Gashiishor

GALSHIREDLE wuxu dhalay:
Isxaaq iyo [Reer] Xassan

ISXAAQ wuxu dhalay:
amaanreer

AMAANREER wuxu dhalay:
Radimiir, Wagerdhac, Talxe, Howlraarsame

RADIMIIR wuxu dhalay:
Warwaajecle

WARWAAJECLE wuxu dhalay:
musse, [haber] cise, celi, fiqi-yaaquub

MUSSE wuxu dhalay:
Abadir iyo Mamaasame

ABADIR wuxu dhalay:
Da'uud iyo Soonfure

DA'UUD wuxu dhalay:
Maxamed

MAXAMED wuxu dhalay:
Axmed, [Reer] Cismon,[Reer] Yusef, Cali-dheere

AXMED wuxu dhalay:
ciis

CIIS wuxu dhalay:
Mataan

MATAAN wuxu dhalay:
Yusef, [reer] Garaad, Hiraabe

YUSEF wucu dhalay:
Xussien iyo [Ina] Nuur

XUSSIEN wuxu dhalay:
Khalaf, [reer] Ahmed, Yabbar, Siyaad, Gulled, iyo Cali

KHALAF wuxu dhalay:
Sharmarke, [Ugaas] Gulled, [reer]Yasin, Bah-dir, iyo Bah-Abskuul

SHARMARKE wuxu dhalay:
Gulled iyo shirwac

GULLED wuxu dhalay:
[Ugaas] Farax, Khayr, Dhaaweed, Musse, iyo Warsame

[UGAAS] FARAX wuxu dhalay:
[Ugaas]Diini, khalaf-qoracne,Rooble, Sharmarke, Samatr, Xersi, iyo Gulled

UGAAS DIINI wuxu dhalay:
(Bah-xawaadle)
Reer Ugaas-Sharmarke
Reer-Siyaad
Reer-Warsame

(Bah-darandoole)
Reer Kooshin
Reer-Maxamoud
Reer Nuur
Reer Shirwac
Reer Warfaa
Reer-Khalaf

(Bah Ogaden)
Reer Maxamud Gulled
Reer Dalal
Reer Xirsi
Reer- Sharmarke rooble
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Dude, Habar Ciise are not Reer Gedood and have never been known as Reer Gedood.

And your index is incorrect, Isaxaaq had two sons, Amaanreer and Warfaa.

Abaadir had three sons, Da'uud, Axmed and Soonfure.

Da'uud had two sons, Maxamed and Yuusuf.

What is Reer Yuusuf? There is no such thing as Reer Yuusuf. The only Reer Yuusuf known is the Reer Yuusuf subclan of Reer Xasan.

Maxamed Da'uud had four sons, Axmed, (Reer) Cismaan, Isaxaaq, Cali (Dheere).

Ugaas Khalaf's successor was Ugaas Sharmaake not Guleed.

Bah Darandoole are five, not six:

Nuur (oldest)
Kooshin
Shirwac
Maxamuud
Warfaa

There is no Khalaf.
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Bah darandoole are six Warsame. You left out reer Faarah. I think Boorshaxle family are reer Farah (or Reer Maxamud) and Cabdullahi Bootaan is reer Faarah. Nuur was the oldest and Shirwac was the youngest.

As for reer yusuf, surprisingly they exist but I don't know meeshaay kasoo dhacaan. I always thought they were reer Mataan Ciis.
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The only reer Yuusuf I know is that branch of Reer Xassan.

Qansa, now I remember, yes, waa lix odey.
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Warsame101 wrote:The only reer Yuusuf I know is that branch of Reer Xassan.
Qansa, now I remember, yes, waa lix odey.
warsame the girl who writes here sometimes under the name Gedogurl is supposedly reer yusuf. Maybe she is reer xassan and doesn't know it or maybe her clan exists. Who knows! :lol:
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Ok, I've never heard about amaanreer's brother being warfaa, I was always informed Isxaaq waa afarti amaanreer.

Lakiin, haber-ciise do live in Gedo bro, I know a lot of haber-ciise reer-gedo ah, the tuulo oo maykaareebe bey deggaan man. Taas halkaas ii dhig.

Have you ever heard of afarti maxamed-da'uud iyo adeerkood?? Soonfure is the one reffered to as adeer, but he is actually an awoow to ilmo maxamed-da'uud...and only da'uud was his sibling.

You never heard of reer-yusef??? Wallhi wey jiraan walaal, gedogirl is one, waa dad ogadenka la dheggo sida reer-cismaanka. And he is maxamed da'uud son, I think your mistaken about the isxaaq one bro. They are not reer-xasan, waa ilmo maxamed-da'uud...

I meant reer-farah not reer-khalaf...bah-darandoole are 6 man....bah-xawaadle waa 3 and bah-ogaden waa 4.

And ugaas-gulled does not mean they are ugaas...but it some story that happened...I don't have all the info of it now..lakiin guleed khalafs offspring are called.....reer-ugas guleed..but I know the tittle of ugaasnimo went to sharmarke.
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Warsame101 wrote:Da'uud had two sons, Maxamed and Yuusuf.

If we are maxamed da'uud and da'uud has another son named yuusuf aren't they reer-yuusuf??? I think you might got confused with maxamed da'uuds offspring....
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Qansa, I think she is reer Xasan.
Ok, I've never heard about amaanreer's brother being warfaa, I was always informed Isxaaq waa afarti amaanreer.
SB, Amaanreer had a brother.
Lakiin, haber-ciise do live in Gedo bro, I know a lot of haber-ciise reer-gedo ah, the tuulo oo maykaareebe bey deggaan man. Taas halkaas ii dhig.
It does not matter. It is moot. Cali Dheere live in Galgaduud but they are majority Reer Gedo and are classified as that.
Have you ever heard of afarti maxamed-da'uud iyo adeerkood?? Soonfure is the one reffered to as adeer, but he is actually an awoow to ilmo maxamed-da'uud...and only da'uud was his sibling.
This is similiar to ina Nuur. ina Nuur is actually ina Xuseen Mataan but they are referred to as ina Nuur Mataan in par with Reer Garaad, Hiraabe, etc.
ou never heard of reer-yusef??? Wallhi wey jiraan walaal, gedogirl is one, waa dad ogadenka la dheggo sida reer-cismaanka. And he is maxamed da'uud son, I think your mistaken about the isxaaq one bro. They are not reer-xasan, waa ilmo maxamed-da'uud...
Never heard of them. The only Reer Yuusuf that I know are the sub-branch of Reer Xasan. Ugaas Maxamuud Da'uud had never a son called Yuusuf. Yuusuf Da'uud was his brother.
And ugaas-gulled does not mean they are ugaas...but it some story that happened...I don't have all the info of it now..lakiin guleed khalafs offspring are called.....reer-ugas guleed..but I know the tittle of ugaasnimo went to sharmarke.
There is only one Reer Ugaas Guleed and that is the sub-branch of Reer Ugaas Sharmaake. No other Reer Ugaas Guleed exist.
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Warsame, I know 100% that there is a clan oo reer-yusef la daho, I was informed waa ilmo maxamed -dauud...maybe they are maxamed-dauud's brother and not son..but wey jirran..lakiin its doesn't go with the old saying of "afarti maxamed-dauud iyo adeerkood" and the adeer is referred to as soonfuure...and it doesn't include yusef..lakiin its a reer-gedo saying so maybe since reer-yusef don't live there they didn't know of them much.

Ugaas-guleed wey jirran but maybe I mixed up gulled farax ugaas with gleed khalaf hussien! I will check into it.


Gedogirl is not reer-xassan, because her cousin or aunt is the mother of my second aunts/uncles and I know her family, reer-yusef reer-hassan wey jirran and reer-yusef kale wey jirran.
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