Formula 4.5 Isaaq vs Dir& Digil&Mirifle whats the deal?

[suldaan300]

horta there is no doubt daroods are behind the 4.5 formula just read about.
Its nothing but xaasidnimo and typical faqash work trying to undermine the Isaaqs.

If we were part of Dir may I ask you why was our little dir friends in Awdal where so anxious about us after toppling of Siad Barre down in Xamar? Sure there are rumours of them supporting afweyne back then , just like WSLF/Onlf were ready to settle Isaaq deegans after the genocide.

But I tell you guys something.

Put Rahanweyne , Digil iyo Mirifle , Bantu Somalis and all other minorities and give them 1 seat.
I dont consider digil and mirifle as ' one of the majors '

its only three real majors in Somalia

Hawiya
Darood
Isaaq

[Executive]

Isaaq is not the same size as Darood and Hawiye.

D&M is a major clan.

I also believe all the minority clans, such as Reer Xamar, Jareer Weyne, Bantu etc should be given 1 instead of 0.5

[GENERAL_SNM]

This whole government if it sticks is to provoke Isaaqs, and use the Hawiye as foot soldiers in case of war.
Somethings never change.


Executive is that what they tell you before you go to bed? How about this we dont care about numbers if you want war, you know were to find us. :somaliland:

[suldaan300]

executive let me ask you a simple one

which tribe is largest dhulbahante or habar jeclo

Digil iyo Mirifle might be a large clan as in sheer numbers.
how about power and military capacity , influence .
Isaaq is the hegemonic clan of the North there is no dispute over that everyone from BBC to wikipedia writes that. When we say jump you all jump from Isse in west to majeerteens in east.

Digil iyo mirifle got really karbaashed during the civil war.... there is no point of giving them a position of power as if they had something to give back.
I mean why invite a broke man to the bargaining table in future peace of Somalia?

[Shirib]

Digil y Mirifle is bigger than Isaaq in terms of population kid

[GENERAL_SNM]

executive let me ask you a simple one

which tribe is largest dhulbahante or habar jeclo

Please Bro, They are the same size as Rear Dahir or Ahmed Farax, it would not be fair to compare them to four sons of Shiek isaaq.

[Executive]

suldaan300


If you ask an average Somali that question they will tell you who is Habar jeclo? Lets be honest you are better known as isaaq than by sub-clan. I'm not insulting you I just find it hard to believe that you are the largest somali clan. Don't make yourself bigger than you are.

[James Dahl]

There are more Digil and Mirifle than all of Darood. In fact there are more Digil and Mirifle than all of Darood AND Isaaq together. They're like a third of the total population.
If anything, they're under-represented even in the 4.5 system.

[suldaan300]

3 / 4 of the remains of Somalias army was stationed in Togdheer, Waqooyie Galbeed ( maroodi jeex and saaxil had the largest garrisons )

SNM was the most organized powerful guerilla group.
You might be 2-3 million Shirib but you guys are still weak and broke .
We however fought like spartans and conquered ALL over land back plus managing to supply USC and SDM to fight in the south.

There is no sane reason to recognise you guys as a major clan in Somalia.
You can't just view the aspect of populations term.

I highly doubt those D&M are more than all of darood and Isaaq together.
thats pure BS james dahl.


dont forget the bargaining table of politics.
D&M might be 5 million for all we know.

but still wtf do they have to bargain with??

its pretty useless to give them a major seat

[Executive]

Digil iyo mirifle got really karbaashed during the civil war.... there is no point of giving them a position of power as if they had something to give back.
I mean why invite a broke man to the bargaining table in future peace of Somalia?

D&M is no joke, stop making fun of them.

What if Abu Mansoor wants to spread his messege to Hargiesa? do you consider him weak and broke?

[Starscream]

The way it should be.

Somali waa Majeerteen iyo Madax Madow,

like the good old days when we used to hop on your back and yell: Main Street!!!

[suldaan300]

abu what


executive get the fok out kiddo



all am saying is Isaaq is no Dir cause Dir doesn't like us and was afraid of us
and yeah no one can deny us.

We are the powerhouse of North
just because we are calm doesn't mean we are weak.

[Shirib]

Suldaan,

Ur right D&M is/was weaker then the other groups cause they got a late start. While Isaaq, Hawiye and Darood started in the 80's to make their own movement D&M started in 95.

That being said numbers wise we are a big clan and will be represented that way buddy. D&M is bigger than Isaaq. Infact I am willing to bet Digil y Mirifle is right now the largest clan inside Somalia.

[Executive]

abu what


executive get the fok out kiddo

Both me and you know that the faqash leaders in Hargeisa are scared of Abu Mansoor a D&M man

[Starscream]

We are the powerhouse of North
just because we are calm doesn't mean we are weak.

The exact same thing can be said about D&M, don't be a hypocrite.