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siyaaro&dikri

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:09 am
by abdi ilyas
this somalia dhaqan, or muslim dhaqan????

Re: siyaaro (dikri)

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:54 am
by Addoow
muslim,sufism :up:

Re: siyaaro (dikri)

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:59 am
by AbuShabab
abdi ilyas wrote:this somalia dhaqan, or muslim dhaqan????
It isn't Muslim dhaqan; the prophet (salalaahu calayhi wasalam), Sahaba and those who followed them didn't practice it.

Re: siyaaro (dikri)

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:05 am
by abdi ilyas
AbuShabab wrote:
abdi ilyas wrote:this somalia dhaqan, or muslim dhaqan????
It isn't Muslim dhaqan; the prophet (salalaahu calayhi wasalam), Sahaba and those who followed them didn't practice it.
siyaaro or dikro. or both? cuz siyaaro i beliave is visiting a grave??

Re: siyaaro (dikri)

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:07 am
by AbuShabab
abdi ilyas wrote:siyaaro or dikro. or both? cuz siyaaro i beliave is visiting a grave??
Check the title of the topic. The author of the topic asked about one thing; siyaaro (dikri).

Re: siyaaro (dikri)

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:14 am
by abdi ilyas
AbuShabab wrote:
abdi ilyas wrote:siyaaro or dikro. or both? cuz siyaaro i beliave is visiting a grave??
Check the title of the topic. The author of the topic asked about one thing; siyaaro (dikri).
its says siyaaro&dikri= siyaaro and dikri. look again.

Re: siyaaro&dikri

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:18 am
by abdi ilyas
i believe dikri is done when visiting grave side. and when visiting grave is called siyaaro? right

Re: siyaaro (dikri)

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:19 am
by AbuShabab
abdi ilyas wrote:its says siyaaro&dikri= siyaaro and dikri. look again.
You're wrong. This is what the author of this topic wrote:

siyaaro (dikri)

What's in the parenthesis () explains what the author means by siyaaro.

Re: siyaaro&dikri

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:20 am
by Addoow
abdi
dont listen to these neo-wadaad clawns,no one can say siyaro is unislamic the same goes to dikir.

Re: siyaaro (dikri)

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:27 am
by abdi ilyas
AbuShabab wrote:
abdi ilyas wrote:its says siyaaro&dikri= siyaaro and dikri. look again.
You're wrong. This is what the author of this topic wrote:

siyaaro (dikri)

What's in the parenthesis () explains what the author means by siyaaro.
are you blind? look at the topic again?know tell me where is the parenthesis??

Addow everybody nows siyaaro and dikri is 2 different words. AW aka abushababa is just messing whit my head :lol:

Re: siyaaro (dikri)

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:31 am
by AbuShabab
abdi ilyas wrote:know tell me where is the parenthesis??
Right here:
Last edited by abdi ilyas on Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: siyaaro (dikri)

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:36 am
by abdi ilyas
AbuShabab wrote:
abdi ilyas wrote:know tell me where is the parenthesis??
Right here:
Last edited by abdi ilyas on Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

you are crazy one. i don't see parenthesis. all i see is the author edited this post? again where is the parenthesis that you are talking about?

Re: siyaaro (dikri)

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:49 am
by AbuShabab
abdi ilyas wrote: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

you are crazy one. i don't see parenthesis. all i see is the author edited this post? again where is the parenthesis that you are talking about?
It's been "the author edited this post."

Re: siyaaro (dikri)

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:52 am
by abdi ilyas
AbuShabab wrote:
abdi ilyas wrote: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

you are crazy one. i don't see parenthesis. all i see is the author edited this post? again where is the parenthesis that you are talking about?
It's been "the author edited this post."
where are going whit this??

Re: siyaaro&dikri

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:39 am
by Grant
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/saud ... mosque.htm


In 707 AD, Umayyad Caliph al-Walid (705-715), incorporated the Prophet's original home and mosque, which included the tombs of the first three Caliphs, inside the new Mosque of the Prophet. A visit to this mosque and tomb is still normally a part of the Hajj, and prayers made in this area are thought to be more llikely to be heard by God.

http://nickchaset.com/pdf/Sufism.pdf

Sufism was first developed during the peoriod of the "rightly guided", and it was the Sufi tariqas that brought Islam to the interior of Africa, the East African coast, and most of southeast Asia.

http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/i ... miyyah.htm

Sufism is opposed by Wahaabbiya, which follows the takfir of Ibn Taymiyya (d. 1328), who was seen in his own time as being utterly outside the tradition of the Prophet and Salaaf.

http://books.google.com/books?id=XpdAzR ... sw#PPP1,M1

Islam iin Somalia follows two distinctly different traditions, a northern branch influenced mostly from the Arabian peninsula, and a Southern branch influenced mostly from Persia, Iraq, Oman and points east, and later by the Swahili coast. It mostly follows the traditions of the Sufi tariqas.

The leaders in the Wahaabbi tradition- Ibn Taymiyya, Wahaab and Qutb- were all nationalists, working sequentially to provide iealogies justifying wars against muslim rulers or oppressors. In Ibn Taymiyyas case, it was to fight the Mongols, who had recently converted. In Wahaab's case, it was to fight the Ottoman Caliph, who had a Sufi-Shia slant. Qutb was fighting Western influences and Nasser's "socialist" government in Egypt.

The oil-soaked Akhwan represent only a tiny fraction of Islamic thought today and through the centuries. The Sufis have always been dominant in sub-Saharan Africa. There is a notable history:

http://subsaharansufis.com/index.php?op ... view&id=14

Here is an excellent overview:

http://www.angelfire.com/az/rescon/SUFIMYSTIC.HTML