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Black Iraqis make Obama a model to follow

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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Their faces and darker skins make them look different. They are routinely called "slave" by the majority, whatever their profession. But Iraq's black population hopes that Barack Obama's rise to the White House will mark a turning point for minorities not just in the United States, but also in their country.

1 of 2 Jalal Thiyab Thijeel, general secretary of the "Movement of Free Iraqis," followed every detail of Obama's election campaign. "Inspiring," he calls it. Inspiring politically, and personally. Like Obama, Thijeel has family roots in Africa.

"We told our people, Inshalla, God willing, Obama is going to win, and if he wins, it will be a victory for all black people in the world," he recalls. "We're going to make him a model to follow. Even our old women were praying for him to win."

When news broke that Obama had won the election, it was early in the morning of November 5 in Basra -- but Thijeel excitedly called a fellow member of his political party.

It was a moment, he tells me as we talk on a street in Baghdad, that he'll never forget. "Now we, the dark-skinned people, feel even closer to the American people because Obama is one of us."

Thijeel's organization estimates there are approximately 2 million black Iraqis. The country's total population is more than 28 million, most of them ethnic Arabs. It's impossible to verify Thijeel's estimate, since the government does not keep statistics on race, but there is no denying there are many black Iraqis in the southern city of Basra.

Their history goes back 1,000 years to the time when Africans were brought as slaves to the south of Iraq to drain marshes and build Basra.

Many Iraqis still call blacks "abed," an Arabic word that means "slave." Thijeel grimaces when he pronounces it. It's demeaning, he says, and he wants the government to forbid its use. Many white Iraqis claim the word isn't meant to offend, but Thijeel says they have no idea how hurtful it is. "I never want my son to go through this," he says. Watch what Obama means to some Iraqis »

He also wants his son -- and his daughters -- to have access to good jobs, something that is not the case now, he says. In Basra, many black Iraqis have menial jobs. Although no one can point to any official discrimination, there are no black members of the Iraqi parliament.

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Jalal Thiyab Thijeel quotes Barack Obama, saying it is time for "change."

The Movement of Free Iraqis was founded two years ago and on January 31 it will run the first slate of black candidates in Iraq's modern history.

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Thijeel hands me the party's documents that spell out its demands. Foremost is that the government recognize blacks as an official minority in Iraq. This is key, because power in Iraq is apportioned along ethnic, religious and even tribal lines. The party also wants an apology for slavery, although it is not asking for financial reparations. The movement also wants laws to combat racial discrimination.

The party has found some nonblack political allies. Awad Al-Abdan of the National Dialogue Front says, "There's been social oppression for a long time. We have a tribal-based society and, according to traditions and customs, the black man is considered to have lower status."


Some white Iraqis say that founding a political party on racial lines is divisive, especially when Iraqis of different communities need to pull together. But Thijeel, quoting Barack Obama, says it's time for change. Although he's speaking in Arabic, he uses the English word "change."

"There's a change in international politics," he tells me. "Obama won, and not that long ago, in his country, black people were marginalized, so this event has shattered all barriers."

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The Movement of Free Iraqis is fielding the first slate of black election candidates in Iraq's modern history.


damnn being black and in iraq, thats some bad luck right there. :lol: :lol:
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it's well known that iraqs's black in southern iraq.
in all khlaiij they call them basrawiya.
wa dadka bada laga keeney and most of them used to be fishermen or work for them.

khaliij ka o didl wey ka boohan and they even make babies from them.
you see sheikhs and princes who are half africans.
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That guy looks like a regular arab to me nothing black about him, I've seen darker pure yemenis
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lol pure yemeni.
the pure yemeni have blacks and slightly ligher too.
but there is african featured blacks in every society.
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Aliyah99 wrote:That guy looks like a regular arab to me nothing black about him, I've seen darker pure yemenis
These are the real black Iraqis
http://www.somaliaonline.com/cgi-bin/ub ... 011609;p=0

My question is, how come they know their black but Somalis cant see that they are too?
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Somalis are black Africans.
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Uganda wrote:Somalis are black Africans.
uganda :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
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Uganda wrote:Somalis are black Africans.
yes we are black and african and proud.......but we're absolutely nothing like you monkey looking, raw meat eating and aids infested motherfuc.kers
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ahmed_gurey wrote:
Uganda wrote:Somalis are black Africans.
uganda :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
in fact i think i know where darwin got his evolution of the spicies theory.....he most have been to uganda or congo
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peace- wrote:
ahmed_gurey wrote:
Uganda wrote:Somalis are black Africans.
uganda :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
in fact i think i know where darwin got his evolution of the spicies theory.....he most have been to uganda or congo
OHH SHIT I KINDA SYMPATHISE WITH HIM(darwin) THEN :lol: :lol:
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Aliyah99 wrote:That guy looks like a regular arab to me nothing black about him, I've seen darker pure yemenis
Well thats cause the original Arabs were black. Yemen was controlled even during the Prophets life by Ethiopia. Don't be fooled by all these white skinned Arabs not controlling all the governments and making Arabness into whiteness. The REAL arabs as the prophet said were the Bedouin of the desert in Yemen.

I respect the Iraqi brotha for not being a self-hating Arab and not claiming his black heritage.
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peace- wrote:
Uganda wrote:Somalis are black Africans.
yes we are black and african and proud.......but we're absolutely nothing like you monkey looking, raw meat eating and aids infested motherfuc.kers
Guys like U will die fast in Africa because there are more of us than U. Now, I see why my brothers in south Africa are killing U bastards every day but thats only a practice run for now. We just got a bunch of new Somali refugees in my country( Uganda)from what I hear and I will make sure Somalis get hunted.
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peace- wrote:
ahmed_gurey wrote:
Uganda wrote:Somalis are black Africans.
uganda :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
in fact i think i know where darwin got his evolution of the spicies theory.....he most have been to uganda or congo
U SOmalis are a bunch of imbreeds.I was told U guys have sex with relitives like sisters,cousins and sick stuff like that.If this is true cut it out because that stuff is backwards and nasty.In Iraqis clan system its the samething, the U.S did a study and found out that 70% of them are related, so stop having sex with your relitives because thats the only reason why U all look different then other Africans.
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well i know some iraqi blacks one lives near me he looks like typical bidda
his sisters is xaaxx tho.

there where lots of black slaves in basra in the past

even one of the holy imams imam Musa al kadim his mother was black. so he could pass for a muwalad.
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there where lots of black slaves in basra in the past
Isn't that where your ancestor Isaaq is from?
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