PUNTLAND needs to stop claiming sool and Sanaag.
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PUNTLAND needs to stop claiming sool and Sanaag.
Somaliland's borders are defined and well known way before 1960s. They were clearly defined by the colonials and are in similar to those used around the world. Puntland mini state, which was an idea to unite the harti sub clan into one state was formulated in 1998. It was an reactionary state to somaliland which declared independece from 'somali republic' in '91.Their claim on sool and sanaag is based on this dubious clan politiking and has no merits in contrasts to somaliland' s legitimate international claim on these territories.
We have seen how Puntland is only tagwars between 1 sub clan of Majeerteen let alone the whole of harti that partaked the creation of Puntland. Therefore, Puntland aka Majeerteens need to build their state with a compliment from me and somaliland, and leave sool and sanaag out of its agenda. If not, somaliland should declare war and crush those who are clanishly trying to redraw its borders.
We have seen how Puntland is only tagwars between 1 sub clan of Majeerteen let alone the whole of harti that partaked the creation of Puntland. Therefore, Puntland aka Majeerteens need to build their state with a compliment from me and somaliland, and leave sool and sanaag out of its agenda. If not, somaliland should declare war and crush those who are clanishly trying to redraw its borders.
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Re: PUNTLAND needs to stop claiming sool and Sanaag.
Maakhir FOR WARSANGELI 

Re: PUNTLAND needs to stop claiming sool and Sanaag.
East sanaag(warsangeli),somaliland. 

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Re: PUNTLAND needs to stop claiming sool and Sanaag.
West Sanaag (Warsangeli), Maakhir 

Re: PUNTLAND needs to stop claiming sool and Sanaag.
You think you will be able to accomdate such large area by your self warsangeli boy? classic case of biting more than you can chew. 

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Re: PUNTLAND needs to stop claiming sool and Sanaag.
I am the IMAGE of your MASTER the Whiteman. The Warsangeli man says that Whiteman has not conducted a comprehensive census in over 34 yrs so the limited logic of the dhulkawaase can not comprehend figures without translation from the intermediate, Warsangeli man. Dhulkawaase leave this to me. 

Re: PUNTLAND needs to stop claiming sool and Sanaag.
Dhuloz beat warsangeli in almost every field of competition. You're warsangeli, a mere 5%. Still respectable in comparison to madhibaan. 

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Re: PUNTLAND needs to stop claiming sool and Sanaag.
orphan boyPUNTLAND needs to stop claiming sool and Sanaag.
stop calaacalka , that is not gonna happen.

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Reality check for you Siciid85.
When African Countries got together to form the African Union, one of the agreements was a recognition of the then current borders as set in stone. This measure was adopted to forestall the horror of ethnic conflicts as borders are drawn along tribal lines.
Now, British Somaliland and Italian Somaliland got together and formed something called the Somali Republic before the creation of the African Union. There was no such entity as Somaliland at the time to partake of the aforementioned agreement. That means that, in the eyes of the world, any successor government to the Somali Republic has de jure authority over all the former territories of said Republic.
This geopolitical reality is the reason why secession movements in Africa (like in Biafra and in Somaliland) get no political support. That's why Puntland would sit through decades of embarrassing limbo if it tried this idea of secession as well.
Also, you and your ilk really need to get over this whole 'Somaliland was Independent'. Four days of political autonomy under a British appointed care-taker government does not qualify as independence. In the Westminster system, care taker governments preside over a political transition, and have no power beyond that mandate.
The issue of Sool and Sanaag is one of reciprocity. If Somaliland justifies its existence based on the moral argument of self-determination (as no other justification so far actually holds any water), then clearly this also applies to any entities seceding from Somaliland as well.
If, however, the might makes right mentality gets the better of Somaliland's politicians, as it already has of you, I guess engaging in any civilised discourse is a waste of time, no?
When African Countries got together to form the African Union, one of the agreements was a recognition of the then current borders as set in stone. This measure was adopted to forestall the horror of ethnic conflicts as borders are drawn along tribal lines.
Now, British Somaliland and Italian Somaliland got together and formed something called the Somali Republic before the creation of the African Union. There was no such entity as Somaliland at the time to partake of the aforementioned agreement. That means that, in the eyes of the world, any successor government to the Somali Republic has de jure authority over all the former territories of said Republic.
This geopolitical reality is the reason why secession movements in Africa (like in Biafra and in Somaliland) get no political support. That's why Puntland would sit through decades of embarrassing limbo if it tried this idea of secession as well.
Also, you and your ilk really need to get over this whole 'Somaliland was Independent'. Four days of political autonomy under a British appointed care-taker government does not qualify as independence. In the Westminster system, care taker governments preside over a political transition, and have no power beyond that mandate.
The issue of Sool and Sanaag is one of reciprocity. If Somaliland justifies its existence based on the moral argument of self-determination (as no other justification so far actually holds any water), then clearly this also applies to any entities seceding from Somaliland as well.
If, however, the might makes right mentality gets the better of Somaliland's politicians, as it already has of you, I guess engaging in any civilised discourse is a waste of time, no?
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Re: PUNTLAND needs to stop claiming sool and Sanaag.
Are you Idoor or Dhulbahante?Siciid85 wrote:You think you will be able to accomdate such large area by your self warsangeli boy? classic case of biting more than you can chew.
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Re: PUNTLAND needs to stop claiming sool and Sanaag.







people should just stop claiming all this land . bisinka ,..

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Re: PUNTLAND needs to stop claiming sool and Sanaag.
The day Puntland stops claiming Sool and Sanaag...is the day Isxaq should stop claiming Hergeisa iyo Burco...




Re: PUNTLAND needs to stop claiming sool and Sanaag.
Padishah,
First and foremost, it is important to recollect that, after achieving independence from British colonial rule on June 26, 1960, Somaliland was duly recognized as a sovereign entity by the United Nations and thirty-five countries, including the United States. Several days later, on July 1, the independent country of Somaliland voluntarily joined with its newly independent southern counterpar (the former UN Trust Territory of Somalia that was a former Italian colony) to create the present-day Republic of Somalia. Somalilanders rightfully note that they voluntarily joined a union after independence, and that, under international law, they should (and do) have the right to abrogate that union, as they did in 1991. Examples abound in the second half of the twentieth century of international recognition of countries that have emerged from failed federations or failed states, including East Timor, Eritrea, Gambia, and the successor states of the former Soviet Union and Yugoslavia. The same legal principle should be applied to Somaliland.
The political basis for Somaliland’s claim is that the voluntary union of 1960 was derailed in 1969 by a military coup d’etat in Mogadishu that ushered in more than two decades of brutal military rule under the dictatorship of General Mohamed Siyaad Barre. Afwayne's facist regime destroyed the foundations of the north-south democratic compact, most notably by unleashing a murderous campaign. Whether our independence lasted a week or half a day, somaliland was once recognised nation and walked into a union with the south VOLUNTARILY. As such has every bit of right to regain it when union failed.
First and foremost, it is important to recollect that, after achieving independence from British colonial rule on June 26, 1960, Somaliland was duly recognized as a sovereign entity by the United Nations and thirty-five countries, including the United States. Several days later, on July 1, the independent country of Somaliland voluntarily joined with its newly independent southern counterpar (the former UN Trust Territory of Somalia that was a former Italian colony) to create the present-day Republic of Somalia. Somalilanders rightfully note that they voluntarily joined a union after independence, and that, under international law, they should (and do) have the right to abrogate that union, as they did in 1991. Examples abound in the second half of the twentieth century of international recognition of countries that have emerged from failed federations or failed states, including East Timor, Eritrea, Gambia, and the successor states of the former Soviet Union and Yugoslavia. The same legal principle should be applied to Somaliland.
The political basis for Somaliland’s claim is that the voluntary union of 1960 was derailed in 1969 by a military coup d’etat in Mogadishu that ushered in more than two decades of brutal military rule under the dictatorship of General Mohamed Siyaad Barre. Afwayne's facist regime destroyed the foundations of the north-south democratic compact, most notably by unleashing a murderous campaign. Whether our independence lasted a week or half a day, somaliland was once recognised nation and walked into a union with the south VOLUNTARILY. As such has every bit of right to regain it when union failed.
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Re: PUNTLAND needs to stop claiming sool and Sanaag.
The Magnificent wrote:The day Puntland stops claiming Sool and Sanaag...is the day Isxaq should stop claiming Hergeisa iyo Burco...![]()
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Maakhir has a claim over Sanaag since Harti lays in Haylaan. Buntland and Dirta Waaqoyi have no claim over Maakhir except by words

Re: PUNTLAND needs to stop claiming sool and Sanaag.
Siren.What is idoor? It sounds disgusting
I'm not dhulbahanto though.

I'm not dhulbahanto though.
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