Culture of Hard Work

[guhad122]

I am watching a show on History channel called AxMen and it is all about cutting monster trees for profit. I sometimes wonder if we Africans especially Somalis would ever be this dedicated to our professions. I remember growing up back home where people would leave for work around 8:AM and then would get back home around 1:00 PM. And then the rest of the day is spent on sitting and chewing Jaad.

[BaasAbuur]

what is available to you in terms of resources determines how hardworking or lazy you are.

[Xashi]

No. A lot of it has to do with climate. Watched a show on Discovery channel couple months ago where they examined the reasons that led western countries to develop faster than most other parts of the world. They concluded that the climate was one of the main reasons. people in western countries were forced to work much harder than those in hotter countries. Fruits, vegetables and other foods are available in great quantity while in the west if people didnt work they would simply die.. Now compare that to a farmer in Kismayo, Beledweyne or Jilib, for him 5 hours of work a day is enough.

[BaasAbuur]

No. A lot of it has to do with climate. Watched a show on Discovery channel couple months ago where they examined the reason that led western countries to develop faster than most other parts of the world. They concluded that the climate was one of the main reasons. people in western countries were forced to work much harder than those in hotter countries. Fruits, vegetables and other foods are available in great quantity while in the west if people didnt work they would simply die.. Now compare that to a former in Kismayo, Beledweyne or Jilib, for him 5 hours of work a day is enough.

you just elobrated on what i said homie. the west lacks resources a lot that is available to others in other parts of the world. you can survive on the bare minimum in most of africa while in the west, you got to work your ass out just to survive a single winter.

[Cawar]

So you guys are practically saying that God knew how lazy black ppl were and thats why he blessed them with all that nimco in Africa for exm.
, otherwise they would have perished long ago??

[Xashi]

No. A lot of it has to do with climate. Watched a show on Discovery channel couple months ago where they examined the reason that led western countries to develop faster than most other parts of the world. They concluded that the climate was one of the main reasons. people in western countries were forced to work much harder than those in hotter countries. Fruits, vegetables and other foods are available in great quantity while in the west if people didnt work they would simply die.. Now compare that to a former in Kismayo, Beledweyne or Jilib, for him 5 hours of work a day is enough.

you just elobrated on what i said homie. the west lacks resources a lot that is available to others in other parts of the world. you can survive on the bare minimum in most of africa while in the west, you got to work your ass out just to survive a single winter.

I guess i did .. It was meant for Guhud. Your statement is correct though

[Xashi]

So you guys are practically saying that God knew how lazy black ppl were and thats why he blessed them with all that nimco in Africa for exm.
, otherwise they would have perished long ago??

No, what im saying is, circumstances shape your lifestyle.

[Voltage]

So you guys are practically saying that God knew how lazy black ppl were and thats why he blessed them with all that nimco in Africa for exm.
, otherwise they would have perished long ago??

No one is saying that, you have got to be one of the slowest people in this forum.

[Ureysoo]

....The result -- economic crisis, continuous clashes and unrest, unhealthy civilians, lack of knowledge and projects, backward ideologies, etc. I thought this is exclusive 2 Somalia, till Yemen revealed their country's condition, concerns and sticky-situations, Lol. In the Qaad-chewing case....Chewing-Qaad = has an impact on social behaviour, economic-contribution, ecological and environmental change and political-vision.

Social Behaviour = Uproots aggression, ignorance, and gets on the way of socializing, and leisure time...
Economic-contribution: Less working housr, unhealthy labor force, and alot of money spent on importing it....
Ecological Environmental change: Could be some sort of biological environment concerning "habitat consumption", and some physical and chemical practices which are triggered off by unawareness can contribute greatly in damaging the environment
Political-vision: the government introduced policies are violated, and an attempt 2 keep them under a tight rein can result in resistance and campaigns.

... This is a summary -- I will try 2 do an in depth research, Lol....(Regardless, of Somalis love 4 that green-leaf - the detriments should be considered)....

[Voltage]

Xashi, do you have the link to that broadcast? It's funny because me and this school mate were talking about this and why the West developed technologically better then the rest of the world and we reached the same conclusion. In the end we came to the realization that white people are not inherently more smarter or better equipped intellectually then anyone but that due to their environment they had to be more ingenious to survive and so built a cycle of more advanced "educating" to survive. For example an African might have taught his kid how to hunt or build a mud hut which kept the inside of the house cool but the European had to learn how to fell trees and make a log cabin, etc.

[Xashi]

Xashi, do you have the link to that broadcast? It's funny because me and this school mate were talking about this and why the West developed technologically better then the rest of the world and we reached the same conclusion. In the end we came to the realization that white people are not inherently more smarter or better equipped intellectually then anyone but that due to their environment they had to be more ingenious to survive and so built a cycle of more advanced "educating" to survive. For example an African might have taught his kid how to hunt or build a mud hut which kept the inside of the house cool but the European had to learn how to fell trees and make a log cabin, etc.

damn i dont. It was a while ago. Will let you know if i find it.

[Cawar]

So you guys are practically saying that God knew how lazy black ppl were and thats why he blessed them with all that nimco in Africa for exm.
, otherwise they would have perished long ago??

No one is saying that, you have got to be one of the slowest people in this forum.

Ok mr fast and genious, why dont you tell me the wisdom I failed to understand??


Fact: 3rd world countries produce lazy ppl. no matter how hard one tries to spin that..its the fundamental truth..including the Arabs who filthy rich.

[mahdi01]

No, guys I disagree with you, because Australia which has the same climate in Africa do you see people living lower standard and dying for hunger and Malaria, it is all about the culture, in the white cultures responsibility is very high and everyone is expected to contribute their role in the society, while Africans especially Somalis depend on each other, it is normal in Somalia to see a adult men not working and living on lazy life style…

[Amethyst]

Oh wow, the colonial mind is a terrible thing to keep. I find it funny how all of you are painting the Somalis/Africans as lazy creatures, and have it for you that the westerners are the opposite. Sure some Somalis are FOCKED up, just as there are those Westerners who are the laziest mofo's u'll ever meet ( - That I know IVE Met!). Anyway, since we're in on this lemme give a coupla pointers.

1) There aren't that many jobs in Somalia today. You are lucky if you can find anything to help feed ur kids. Period.

2)Just because you are working longer doesn't meant that you are working harder. 5 hours is more than enough to do what u can and then go home and leave the rest for tomorrow . Besides, how is its 5 hours to begin with? They wake up when its semi-dark to pray (well before 5 or 6 even). Don't return home and go straight to work, then do what they can, until the scorching sun is at its the hottest.(Yea, Try working outside or in a non-airconditioned environment and then you'll see why.) Then they go home during Duhur, and then rest of the rest of the day. The term "Waan Caser-yeeysanaya" is derived from this, as people rest/do leisurely things during this time. You ask why not return when the suns gone down then? Well FORGET about getting anything after that, due not having any electricity or being afforded the safety to do so. So from 5/6am-1/2pm? isnt that like 8/9 hours? I think you are all hellbent and mad conditioned on the way the west works. (9-5, that life is 8= work, 8= sleep, and 8= leisure time).

3) People in the west, have it generally easier. Sure their weather is worse during the winter, then again isn't ours is horrible all year long due to the heat, and drought, hell even the rainy/windy? They have tons of high-tech inventions at their disposal. They can get things done, faster and more efficient than Africans that it takes a lot longer for. The irony being that they've gotten all of this on the backs of Africans. Most of it from having undergone the industrial revolution. Development creates more development. Everything from institutions to buildings are built. So the that effect they just have to give a little, to receive a lot in return. Whilst it feels as if regardless of how hard africans work, by the end of the day, they'll wake up to the same damn underdeveloped thing. Lazy people, indeed.

[Cinque Mtume]

Xashi, do you have the link to that broadcast? It's funny because me and this school mate were talking about this and why the West developed technologically better then the rest of the world and we reached the same conclusion. In the end we came to the realization that white people are not inherently more smarter or better equipped intellectually then anyone but that due to their environment they had to be more ingenious to survive and so built a cycle of more advanced "educating" to survive. For example an African might have taught his kid how to hunt or build a mud hut which kept the inside of the house cool but the European had to learn how to fell trees and make a log cabin, etc.

No, that was a lesser factor than the Transfer of Knowledge in Europe, whilst valuable knowledge gained in Africa, such as Timbuktu, was quite isolated and wouldn't reach much further than its sphere of influence, b/c of both geographical and anthropological reasons.

Look at the Renaissance and the Industrial Revolution, they started in Tuscany and Lancashire respectively and have the changed the world dramatically for millennia to come.

All European countries and also the Americans have engaged in study-touring, Sweden and France made it even a state policy to learn from the knowledge gained in other European countries. Heck, they even gained an incredible amount of knowledge from the Muslim Empire before they could swap knowledge with each other.

And the white people today oo sankooda isku taagaya, the British, French, Dutch, Germans etc. They had to be educated by the Greeks and tamed by the Romans. Two civilizations that have been conquered and outclassed by us Muslims.