Puntland, our sister region
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Puntland, our sister region
Puntland, our sister region
Maakhir does not claim to extricate from its economic and social interconnection with Puntland. However, it needs to define its political vision, from the perspective of Somali union and realist priorities.
Maakhir is a symbolic reminder of the wealthy of resources and land size the region sits on and the resiliency of its people. It's neither a proxy state nor a vassal of some entities. It's , however, defined by its unique history and, economically and socially, its contemporary coalition with Puntland so as to stave off the challenging times of Somalia and to completely neutralize, and to some extent, reverse the secessionist's divisive goal.
Historically, Maakhir was created on the basis of territorial accumulation by Warsangeli Sultanate, which established permenant rule over its subjects. In its peak, it reached as far as Burco. Historians from the region would claim that the extension of its influence, long-distance communication and exchanges reached Aden, Oman, Berlin, Rome and London. A closer examination of its past reveals a time the Germans entered treaty with Warsangeli in Berbera after the Egyptians vacated, according to Beachey in his book, "The Mad Mullah"
The administration had extensive professional bureaucrats and standing army that assessed trade routes as well as taking accurate accounting for the imports, production and exports of food and raw material surpluses vital to the survival and expansion of the centralized Muslim Sultanate.
On contemporary issues,
Maakhir faces huge challenges that have made its progress fairly stagnant. However, there are now shovel-ready projects, such as the Port, roads, state-of-the-art schools and hospitals. These are huge and stiff challenges and will be difficult to meet if tribal-based entities that are engaged in war of words and diplomacy over Maakhir are not stopped. It's like financial broker/advisor in charge of your stock portfolio without proper experience and certification, besides having a record of wrong doings and ethics.
SL is our sister friend, and Ogaden will be our source of wealth and trade. The latter love to trade with us and bring enough supply of livestock, once the port starts functioning.
What are your views reer Maakhir. Others are welcome.
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Maakhir does not claim to extricate from its economic and social interconnection with Puntland. However, it needs to define its political vision, from the perspective of Somali union and realist priorities.
Maakhir is a symbolic reminder of the wealthy of resources and land size the region sits on and the resiliency of its people. It's neither a proxy state nor a vassal of some entities. It's , however, defined by its unique history and, economically and socially, its contemporary coalition with Puntland so as to stave off the challenging times of Somalia and to completely neutralize, and to some extent, reverse the secessionist's divisive goal.
Historically, Maakhir was created on the basis of territorial accumulation by Warsangeli Sultanate, which established permenant rule over its subjects. In its peak, it reached as far as Burco. Historians from the region would claim that the extension of its influence, long-distance communication and exchanges reached Aden, Oman, Berlin, Rome and London. A closer examination of its past reveals a time the Germans entered treaty with Warsangeli in Berbera after the Egyptians vacated, according to Beachey in his book, "The Mad Mullah"
The administration had extensive professional bureaucrats and standing army that assessed trade routes as well as taking accurate accounting for the imports, production and exports of food and raw material surpluses vital to the survival and expansion of the centralized Muslim Sultanate.
On contemporary issues,
Maakhir faces huge challenges that have made its progress fairly stagnant. However, there are now shovel-ready projects, such as the Port, roads, state-of-the-art schools and hospitals. These are huge and stiff challenges and will be difficult to meet if tribal-based entities that are engaged in war of words and diplomacy over Maakhir are not stopped. It's like financial broker/advisor in charge of your stock portfolio without proper experience and certification, besides having a record of wrong doings and ethics.
SL is our sister friend, and Ogaden will be our source of wealth and trade. The latter love to trade with us and bring enough supply of livestock, once the port starts functioning.
What are your views reer Maakhir. Others are welcome.
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Re: Puntland, our sister region
Murax, you look happy.
DX. First thanks for the efforts in getting started this forum. You raised a great topic whose central theme is the initiation of political divorce from Majeerteenia and Isaaqia or abrogate that fruitless business partnership contract.
We already have our independent political system. We just play the two Landers against each other. As you put it, we have close ethnic ties with one group, whereas the other and more radical seperatist one share historic and cultural relationship with us. I like to think we are still ahead of so many groups. Unfortunately, we have never reached a consensus that should be of benefit to us 10-20 years down the road.
Maakhir ha noolaato saxib.
DX. First thanks for the efforts in getting started this forum. You raised a great topic whose central theme is the initiation of political divorce from Majeerteenia and Isaaqia or abrogate that fruitless business partnership contract.
We already have our independent political system. We just play the two Landers against each other. As you put it, we have close ethnic ties with one group, whereas the other and more radical seperatist one share historic and cultural relationship with us. I like to think we are still ahead of so many groups. Unfortunately, we have never reached a consensus that should be of benefit to us 10-20 years down the road.
Maakhir ha noolaato saxib.
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Re: Puntland, our sister region
well if all warsans want and claim that they do of course have links with puntland, but dont want to be part of it, then i guess we can work together as brothers.
but my question to you guys is: do you still believe in u r part of somaliwayn?

but my question to you guys is: do you still believe in u r part of somaliwayn?

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Re: Puntland, our sister region
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Neocon ,Maakhir hanoolaato
Maakhir ha noolaato



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Re: Puntland, our sister region
DamallaXagare wrote:Maakhir is a symbolic reminder of the wealthy of resources and land size
Historians from the region would claim that the extension of its influence, long-distance communication and exchanges reached Aden, Oman, Berlin, Rome and London.
there are now shovel-ready projects, such as the Port, roads, state-of-the-art schools


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Re: Puntland, our sister region
[quote="surrender"][color=#400040][b]well if all warsans want and claim that they do of course have links with puntland, but dont want to be part of it, then i guess we can work together as brothers.
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but my question to you guys is: do you still believe in u r part of somaliwayn?[/color]
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Of course we are a unionist saxib. The most we can do is to eliminate the division that SL and PL stoke and perpetuate all over Somalia.
Maakhir is an Arabic meaning East unlike the "Land" suffix which is unSomali and colonial.

but my question to you guys is: do you still believe in u r part of somaliwayn?[/color]

Of course we are a unionist saxib. The most we can do is to eliminate the division that SL and PL stoke and perpetuate all over Somalia.
Maakhir is an Arabic meaning East unlike the "Land" suffix which is unSomali and colonial.
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Re: Puntland, our sister region
Mohamed-bin-Oromo,
I guess you doubt the validity of the above statement. If so, let me know I will be more than willing to volunteer and provide the corroborating evidence.
I have tons of documents to back it up.
You'll still be giggling and expose your aliterate mind.
I guess you doubt the validity of the above statement. If so, let me know I will be more than willing to volunteer and provide the corroborating evidence.
I have tons of documents to back it up.
You'll still be giggling and expose your aliterate mind.
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Re: Puntland, our sister region
I can't believe we have too many Enemies.


Re: Puntland, our sister region
you can hate as much as you want, but the warsangeli sultanate will reclaim its position in Somali society in no time. Somali politics is interchangeable, and the Warsangeli prophecy to dominate the Somali politics again will soon come to reality.
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Re: Puntland, our sister region
Dhahar04, I am against political domination as it has led us into this doom with no one emerging as the victor yet.
Maakhiris have had their share of great posts relative to other clans and they are known to be the leading lights of Somali polity.
They also have stayed out of the mayhem and destruction that engulfed the south, though considerable menpower and resources had been lost in the defense of our Territory from tribal encroachments in disguise of autonomous entities.
We must stay out of this mess and continue uniting our people and ensuring our kids be seated behind blackboards.
Somalia then will rise up again and those whose house is in order will be rewarded the most.
Maakhiris have had their share of great posts relative to other clans and they are known to be the leading lights of Somali polity.
They also have stayed out of the mayhem and destruction that engulfed the south, though considerable menpower and resources had been lost in the defense of our Territory from tribal encroachments in disguise of autonomous entities.
We must stay out of this mess and continue uniting our people and ensuring our kids be seated behind blackboards.
Somalia then will rise up again and those whose house is in order will be rewarded the most.
Re: Puntland, our sister region
Makhir ppl are welcome to have makhir party representing the interests of it's region however cutting off from puntland is not wise move for them not politically that's for sure. Cultural relationship with isaaq? how is that possible when you read the treaty of isaaq the british viewed them as "subjects" where-as warsangeli were viewed as "country" of it's own. Not once in warsangeli treaty does it mention their subjects of somaliland and infact if you read it carefully the british were going to send a foreign ambassador and open up foreign embassy in warsangeli country to signify they are not somaliland.
To prove historically border wise from the british treaty with warsangeli that they were apart of somaliland is an impossible task because that was just never the case. Besides borders are not defined by colonialists and indepedence are not given due to colonial borders but due to ethnic, religious, political factors. All indepedences are determined on that factor.
Look at kosovo it was given indepedence not because of historical borders but because they were mainly different religious group then to the ppl they were living with who were christians whilsts kosovo were muslims. That is why they were given indepedence. Sames goes for eritrea it was due to their big majority muslim population that they were allowed to cutt off from ethiopia not because of colonial borders.
Infact not 1 indepedences has ever been decided by colonial borders, that is why those dumb idors are sitting there in hargeisa for 17 years wondering "why noone is recognizing them" lol. It is good they use stupid arguments like this because they will never be recognized as long as they do. But it makes me wonder i doubt their serious about it because they have to know that colonial borders will not give them indepedence.
I think snm rebels are just trying to make themselves important but don't want to cutt off and thats why they use colonial borders arguments because they know the world will not take them serious and give them indepedence on it. I think it's all show so they can get bigger slice of power within somalia.
But anyways warsangeli and isaaq have nothing to do with each other one was called a subject the other was called citizen of warsangeli country..how can they have cultural ties when one thinks its ok to be called a slave whilst the other doesn't...their is no cultural ties at all.
America is big country too that have latinos, blacks, whites, etc...but i am sure if u ask white person do they prefer someone who is white from the uk or someone who is latino that u share a border with...the white american will tell u he prefers the white person in uk before a latino or black that share a border with them.
Caqli xumo iyo doqonimo ayaa somalidaa dileyso...listen ppl africa is tough continent if u want to survive u stick with family, if u don't u will be roasted..
To prove historically border wise from the british treaty with warsangeli that they were apart of somaliland is an impossible task because that was just never the case. Besides borders are not defined by colonialists and indepedence are not given due to colonial borders but due to ethnic, religious, political factors. All indepedences are determined on that factor.
Look at kosovo it was given indepedence not because of historical borders but because they were mainly different religious group then to the ppl they were living with who were christians whilsts kosovo were muslims. That is why they were given indepedence. Sames goes for eritrea it was due to their big majority muslim population that they were allowed to cutt off from ethiopia not because of colonial borders.
Infact not 1 indepedences has ever been decided by colonial borders, that is why those dumb idors are sitting there in hargeisa for 17 years wondering "why noone is recognizing them" lol. It is good they use stupid arguments like this because they will never be recognized as long as they do. But it makes me wonder i doubt their serious about it because they have to know that colonial borders will not give them indepedence.
I think snm rebels are just trying to make themselves important but don't want to cutt off and thats why they use colonial borders arguments because they know the world will not take them serious and give them indepedence on it. I think it's all show so they can get bigger slice of power within somalia.
But anyways warsangeli and isaaq have nothing to do with each other one was called a subject the other was called citizen of warsangeli country..how can they have cultural ties when one thinks its ok to be called a slave whilst the other doesn't...their is no cultural ties at all.
America is big country too that have latinos, blacks, whites, etc...but i am sure if u ask white person do they prefer someone who is white from the uk or someone who is latino that u share a border with...the white american will tell u he prefers the white person in uk before a latino or black that share a border with them.
Caqli xumo iyo doqonimo ayaa somalidaa dileyso...listen ppl africa is tough continent if u want to survive u stick with family, if u don't u will be roasted..
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