somaliland's independence

[new-york24]

rer somaliland whats the first order of bussines when you get reconized?

word is you already have the support of britain and ethiopia(behind close doors).

[peace-]

word is you already have the support of britain and ethiopia(behind close doors).

they have been in a close room with those two for a century, walina waxbaa meey dhaliin

[rich-boy]

first thing in the agenda crash puntland in 1 day im being too generous 3 hours top

[Keyse_0208]

Fist thing is probably to open an account with the world bank and get a phat cheque. Start drilling the oil, build the place up,get some sick weapons then capture all of punaniland in probably a day

[new-york24]

word is you already have the support of britain and ethiopia(behind close doors).

they have been in a close room with those two for a century, walina waxbaa meey dhaliin

i have a strong feeling that ethiopia and britain reconize it,but are waiting for the right time to anounce it.
if you take a close look at the current politics of east africa,and the desprate situation the west is in.its un avoidable.

[The_Emperior5]

Maalintaas aya somaliland sii fiican oo duulaysa Emperior na ticket bu goosanayaa safiirka somaliland eeh Maraykanka oo fadhiya united nationka ayuu noqonanayaa oo ilahay igu ogyahay.
Somaliland will get loans from the imf we will build a navy ciidanka ciirka iyo ka dhulka ba dawlad cagaheeda ku tagaan.

[peace-]

word is you already have the support of britain and ethiopia(behind close doors).

they have been in a close room with those two for a century, walina waxbaa meey dhaliin

i have a strong feeling that ethiopia and britain reconize it,but are waiting for the right time to anounce it.
if you take a close look at the current politics of east africa,and the desprate situation the west is in.its un avoidable.

sxb trust me on this it aint gonna happened. there is far too vested interests for that happen. besides ethiopia is not gonna be the first to do so otherwises it would have been the first do so because it knows that it would set a dangerous precedent that may affect itself in the future. britain is not to be the first to do, becuase it does want to accused of imperialism. and african union country wants to be the first because the recognition of somaliland would mean the end of africa as we know

[Cali_Gaab]

We shall invest in metal badges, the shape of a star coloured yellow and force every cagdheer to wear it in public.

[new-york24]

peace,
am not saying its guranteed,am opserving it from the west's point of view.meeshan(koonfurta) shariica ha deey ka dilaacdo,my senses tell me they will jump the gun.we both know when the west feels its intrest threatened they flip the whole script.

[peace-]

peace,
am not saying its guranteed,am opserving it from the west's point of view.meeshan shariica ha deey ka dilaacdo,my senses tell me they will jump the gun.we both know when the west feels its intrest threatened they flip the whole script.

it may be in the west interest, but requires and african the get the ball rolling, and like non are willing to do, becuase they all know that this will be the end of most african states...........every tribe in african is going to be asking for a state or fighting for one

[The_Emperior5]

In the near future Somaliland will be recognized the African union can’t for ever ignore qaddiyada Somaliland and they know it to. See Somaliland is not drawing new border it’s the same borders of 1884. And Africa knows that Somaliland is not drawing new borders. Now Ethiopia was the one who said the 2 state solutions and I think that will be the solution at the end. See African union act was not to change the borders after 1963 and to keep the colonial borders and see we are not drawing new borders just the one before 1960. Somaliland already got good ties with Britain Djibouti Ethiopia Rwanda Sweden Norway and France and many other country very good ties. All Somaliland wants is dhaqaaalo tagaan iyo siidi aanu Lacagyayaha baanka aduunka uga soo qaadan lahayn if we get that then we are there that’s all ciid Somaliland iska hor istaagii karta ma jirto.

[peace-]

In the near future Somaliland will be recognized the African union can’t for ever ignore qaddiyada Somaliland and they know it to. See Somaliland is not drawing new border it’s the same borders of 1884. And Africa knows that Somaliland is not drawing new borders. Now Ethiopia was the one who said the 2 state solutions and I think that will be the solution at the end. See African union act was not to change the borders after 1963 and to keep the colonial borders and see we are not drawing new borders just the one before 1960. Somaliland already got good ties with Britain Djibouti Ethiopia Rwanda Sweden Norway and France and many other country very good ties. All Somaliland wants is dhaqaaalo tagaan iyo siidi aanu Lacagyayaha baanka aduunka uga soo qaadan lahayn if we get that then we are there that’s all ciid Somaliland iska hor istaagii karta ma jirto.

See Somaliland is not drawing new border it’s the same borders of 1884. And Africa knows that Somaliland is not drawing new borders. Now Ethiopia was the one who said the 2 state solutions and I think that will be the solution at the end

sxb the problem with your argument it that does hold not water
i'll let this guy explain to you

Bashir Goth and Ambassador Abdullahi justified Somaliland’s right to reclaim its former sovereignty on several grounds: recognition of its sovereignty on independence by numerous countries, its past existence as a former colony with recognised boundary; historical precedent of countries that were at one time united but later separated; and the existence of a people called Somaliland their right to self determination.

i) Recognition of Somaliland’s sovereignty at independence

Ambassador Abdullahi Adan, repeating a common claim among proponents of Somaliland’s independence, asserted that 32 so countries recognised Somaliland on its independence on 26 June 1960. If that was the case, the first country that would have recognised it would have been Britain, the colonial power. It did not do so for the simple reason that it hastened granting independence, in response to the wish of the Somaliland politicians, in order to expedite union with Italian Somaliland on the first of July. This is a simple matter to verify since the records are available in the archives of the Britain’s Ministry of Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs. In those days, I was a student in the UK, freelancing for the BBC Somali Service and I definitely recall the Service announcing congratulatory messages sent by governments on the occasion of Somaliland’s independence, but nothing on recognition. These governments knew that British Somaliland would unite with its sister Italian Somaliland. in a matter of days and hence there would have been no point for them to recognise a state that would only exist a mere 4 days and thereafter disappear altogether as an independent separate country.

ii) Colonial borders

The Charter of the i former Organisation of African Unity regarding the inviolability of colonial borders is often cited, as Bashir did, as giving Somaliland the right to reclaim its former borders and hence its separate status from Somalia. Article 111 para 3 of the OAU Charter adopted in 1963 by its member States calls for “respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of each State for its inalienable right to independent existence”. This is further elaborated by resolution 16(1) on the border disputed between African States adopted by the OAU Assembly in 1964. Its operative paragraph 1 and 11 declare the following:

1. Solemnly reaffirms the strict respect by all member states of the Organization for the principles laid down in paragraph 3 of article III of the Charter of the Organization of African Unity;

2. Solemnly declares that all member states pledge themselves to respect the borders existing on their achievement of national independence.

Both article 111 in the Charter and resolution 16(1) as cited above were addressed solely to member States. Clearly, the borders that are to be respected are those of the member States of the OAU (now the AU). Hence they do not apply retroactively to non-existent member States like Somaliland. It should be recalled that this specific article of the Charter and the subsequent resolution were initiated at the behest of Emperor Haile Selassie of Ethiopia as a ploy to ward off Somalia’s claim to large parts of Somali-inhabited territory in Eastern Ethiopia. Haile Selassie was not thinking of Somaliland’s defunct border with Ethiopia but that of Somalia and his country.

[The_Emperior5]

That’s the wardheer editor I listen to his debate on voa him and basheer goth and the ambassador well roble all his argument was somalidu wa isku miid bla bla bla . iyo wa dad is baadhayee but infact we where 2 countrys that joined each other but the fact on the ground was 3 colonial powers that left the horn of Africa and 2 of them decided to unite under one flag to create somaliweyn including Djibouti Nfd and kilinka shanaad and it failed and it is true 32 country recognized Somaliland in including 4 security council members now let me tell you another thing. See the thing is Somaliland had its own prime minister its own political partys its own parliament its own capital.

[peace-]

empr sxb stop making assertions because what man is true

[The_Emperior5]

Reality on the ground is that the rules that you just made red Eritrea 1993 wa looga dul qaatay every one knows that Why is Eritrea different from Ethiopia because of italian colony simple as that same as somaliland.