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This is why I love Somnet!

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The General Discussion forum is where I spent most of my time if & when I decide to visit Somnet, the characters of some visitors here never cease to surprise me, make me laugh and on some rare occasions bring some unwanted frowns to my face.

The other day, I left a note or a two on ongoing discussion about a certain word. One of the members quoted couple verses from the Quran as a proof for something he was arguing for. I, since I can say I know Arabic, offered my explanation to what I thought of the given verses meant adding that I will later on check if there is any historical background that the verse might be talking about and that I might not be aware of.

Later, I did as I said I will do and as a matter of fact the explanation that I found given by the scholars was not that far from what I initially thought.

Now, one of the honorable members here in that same thread accused me that I have some political reasons. Lord, that has been the funniest thing that a person has ever said to me, all of sudden, I have a hidden agenda and political reasons because my explanation differs from his and I didn’t please his taste of ideas.

That person reminded me of this incident: there is this ayah (ayah 33) from Surah Al-Rahman, the ayah says: Bismilahi al Rahman al Rahim:

“Yaa ma’asharal al jinni wal al insi in istata’atum an tanfidhuu min aqtaari alsamawati wal alardi fa’infidhuu, laa tanfidhuna illa bi Sultan


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“O you Jins and humans, if you can penetrate the outer limits of the heavens and the earth, go ahead and penetrate. You cannot penetrate without authorization.”

I heard from resources that some people in the Saudi Kingdom went a step further and spread a propaganda saying the Sultan that Allah has mentioned in the verse is nothing but the current Prince Sultan bin Abdel Aziz Al Saud. Now since his name is Sultan and the ayah mentions the word sultan, an illiterate Bedouin might indeed fall for this and take it to the heart as the truth but of course anyone who can read and write would understand that the word here sultan means nothing but power, or Allah’s power swt.

I would not argue with anyone who says that whoever spread that propaganda has indeed some hidden agenda and has without doubt political reasons but to accuse the person who has correctly explained the verse and taint his character is nothing but a foolish act for a person who doesn’t accept the idea that he can be wrong and that he can be prone to make mistakes just like the rest of human beings. If such person thinks of himself as infallible, I for one would not be surprised to see this person tomorrow saying I am God, I am your truly WaQ of CocoJambo so worship me.

Making mistakes is a part of who we are and how we learn, no one is infallible, but to make a mistake and recognize it makes a whole difference because now you are on the path to the real knowledge.

As a wise man once said a person must be big enough to admit his mistakes, smart enough to profit from them, and strong enough to correct them.
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Ah.. Good for you :up:
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..dudette i get attacked here everyday and people wishing death upon me because my opinion doesn't seem to put a smile on their faces lol

..welcome to my Som'net life :P
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1nemansquad wrote:..dudette i get attacked here everyday and people wishing death upon me because my opinion doesn't seem to put a smile on their faces lol

..welcome to my Som'net life :P

:lol: you so cute babybrother.
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You gotta learn to tough out the crowd babe...the ppl on this site are nothing compared to whats waiting for you out there...so this is just a little taste.

Ur holding your ground tho....kudos to u
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1nemansquad wrote:..dudette i get attacked here everyday and people wishing death upon me because my opinion doesn't seem to put a smile on their faces lol

..welcome to my Som'net life :P

lol.
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Navy9 :up: :rose:
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sister why you care?
as long you know you're right, dont make the attack distrct you.

as matter of fact, i look forward your posts. you're the only one who posts educatational posts that i enjoy.
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Post by Warsan_Star_Muslimah »

I don't understand ruunti, making mistakes, there is nothing wrong with that, even not knowing, there is nothing wrong with that!

Naila; Hold on to her own? I don't know if that is such a good idea, especially if I she is wrong? It sort of implies one can never be wrong, which is wrong. We are all prone to mistakes. I for one love to be corrected, I cannot speak for others, I might challenge the other person, but if I can see that I am totally wrong, then insha-allah I would drop it. Bare in mind some ideas are contested. :lol:

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Warsan_Star_Muslimah wrote:I don't understand ruunti, making mistakes, there is nothing wrong with that, even not knowing, there is nothing wrong with that!

Naila; Hold on to her own? I don't know if that is such a good idea, especially if I she is wrong? It sort of implies one can never be wrong, which is wrong. We are all prone to mistakes. I for one love to be corrected, I cannot speak for others, I might challenge the other person, but if I can see that I am totally wrong, then insha-allah I would drop it. Bare in mind some ideas are contested. :lol:

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Sweetie, you are too sensitive.
I wasnt talking about the perticular situation. Im telling her that she can//is/should be strong. You like being corrected, I dont....so you shouldnt expect people to concord to your rules and form of communication at all times. Let people make their own decisions and let them deal with it.
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She's talking about Voltage :lol: :lol:
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^^
This voltage dude seems to be getting at everyone these days.. :lol:
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Naila; I didnt know I seemed sensitive? :lol:

I was just sharing my thoughts. :lol: :|

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Warsan_Star_Muslimah wrote:Naila; I didnt know I seemed sensitive? :lol:

I was just sharing my thoughts. :lol: :|

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no worries.
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Post by Firefly »

When I think about discussions I always remember a quote by Imam Ash-Shafi'i..

"Never do I argue with a man with a desire to hear him say what is wrong, or to expose him and win victory over him. Whenever I face an opponent in debate I silently pray - O Lord, help him so that truth may flow from his heart and on his tongue, and so that if truth is on my side, he may follow me; and if truth be on his side, I may follow him."
[Imam Al-Shafi'i]

If only we all lived by this quote. :|

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