Help settle this argument....

[Captain24]

Who's bigger Baharsame or Reer Hagar? I got two friends from those sub-clans arguing over which is bigger. So , they asked me and I told them to give me a day to do some research

[Queen_Arawello]

Hands down Reer Hagar is bigger

[BaasAbuur]

I don't know but all the Dhulbahante people I have met were either Reer Hagar or Maxamud Garad and since Dhulbahante has a confusing lineage breakdown, I would not know if those two subclans are the same or not.

[LeonidaS]

rer-hagar is bigger then bahrarsame. laakinse, bahrarsame wa shirshoree, laakinse rer-hagar oo adan-axhmed aah is larger then bahrarsame for sure.

[Babygirl-]

They could be equall in numbers but Bahararsame aka Mahamed Garaad = Ahmed Garaad and the later are much larger..

Reer-Hagar Adan Ahmed Garaad Cabdale Garaad Faraax.

Mahamed Garaad (Bahararsame) Garaad Cabdale Garaad Faraax.



Garaad Maxamed (Bahararsame)
Samakaab-cadde
Maxamuud-jabane
Faraax Maxamuud
Samatar Maxamuud
Awdoon Maxamuud
Xirsi Maxamuud
Warfaa Maxamuud
Cali Maxamuud
Samakaab Cali
Cadduur Cali
Maxamuud Cali
Garaad Maxamed
Naalleeye Garaad
Garaad Cali
Nuur Garaad
Beder Garaad
Basaale Garaad
Xirsi Garaad
Yuusuf Garaad

Axmed Garaad
Cali-geri Axmed
Guuleed Caligeri
Suubaan Caligeri
Beder Suubaan
Beyle Suubaan
Cali Suubaan
Khayr Suubaan
Xildiid Khayr
Raage Khayr
Cigaal Khayr
Sharmaarke Khayr
Faarax Khayr
Ducaale Khayr
Xirsi Caligeri
Ismaaciil Caligeri
Shawe Caligeri
Buraale Caligeri
Warfaa Caligeri
Caraale Warfaa
Maxamed Warfaa
Jaamac Warfaa
Naalleeye Warfaa
Axmed Naalleeye
Diiriye Naalleeye
Magan Naalleeye
Cigaal Naalleeye
Axmed Cigaal
Wacays Cigaal
Xasan Cigaal
Siyaad Cigaal
Carraale Cigaal
Warsame Cigaal
Aadan Axmed
Hagar Aadan (Bah Ogaadeen, Bah Hawiye)
Faarax Hagar
Cigaal Faarax
Maxamed Cigaal
Cali Maxamed
Axmed Maxamed
Cabdille Maxamed
Carraale Cigaal
Xirsi Cigaal
Jaamac Cigaal
Colow Hagar
Geeddi Hagar
Aadan Hagar
Faarax Aadan
Cali Aadan
Wacays Aadan
Naalleeye Wacays
Jaamac Naalleeye
Sharmaarke Naalleeye
Beder Naalleeye
Guuleed Wacays
Aadan Guuleed
Maax Guuleed
Nuur Waceys
Warfaa Wacays
Xildiid Wacays
Erbad Wacays
Mahad Aadan|
Carraale Mahad
Samakaab Axmed (Odala Axmed)
Cigaal Axmed
Warfaa Axmed
Naalleeye Axmed
Xasan Ahmed

There are like 5 Hagar sons missing weli..

[LaQaNyO]

Babygirl I think you just made it more confusing lol...

Captain, Baharsame and Reer Hagar ma sina e.g. Baharsame I think wuxu la siman yahey Hagar Adens dad or grandad (I think) So can you really compare them?

Baasabuur, Dhuloos breakdown is not confusing at all, just the garaad business can cause bit of a confusion...I can give you a link to a simple breakdown, but you need to tell me what you need it for first?

[ina aadan]

Wacays aadan waa nimankii ugu
kibirkabadnaa somali

[Babygirl-]

This is 4 Qansa..

Duq Saciid aka Dhuloz had 4 sons..

Xuseen Siciid (Hayaag)
Axmed Saciid
Yoonis Siciid
Muuse Saciid

Oday Muuse had 7 sons..

Cismaan Muuse (Ebirrar)
Maxamed Muuse
Barre Muuse
Abokar Muuse
Cabdalle Muuse

Duq Cabdulle had 3 sons

Yahye Cabdalle
Aadan Cabdalle (Hinjiinle)
Habarwaa Cabdalle

Oday Habarwa had 2 sons

Khalid Habarwa
Ugaas Shirshore Habarwa (later Garaad Shirshore)

Ugaas Shirshore had..

Hassan Ugaas
Hussen Ugaas
Hamud Ugaas
Mahamud Ugaas

When he became Garaad Shirshore he had..

Faraah Garaad
Mahamud Garaad
Abdi Garaad (Qayad)
Ali Garaad

I am gonna divide only Faraah & Later Mahamud now..

Faraah Garaad had 2 sons..

Garaad Cabdale
Garaad Yasin

Garaad Cabdale had 3 sons..

Mahamed Garaad ( Bahararsame)
Ahmed Garaad
Guleed Garaad (Barkad)

Duq Ahmed Garaad had 7 sons..

Ali-Geri Ahmed
Samakaab Ahmed (Odala Axmed)
Cigaal Ahmed
Warfaa Ahmed
Naaleeye Ahmed
Xasan Ahmed
Adan Ahmed

Duq Adan had 3 sons

Mahad Adan (Caralle Mahad)
Wacays Adan
Hagar Adan

Duq Mahamud Garaad Shirshore had 4 sons..

Nur Mahamud Garaad
Higis Mahamud Garaad
Wacays Mahamud Garaad (Omar-Wacays yeeeeeeey me.. )
Siyad Mahamud Garaad..

Oday Siyaad Mahamud had 2 sons..

Jamac Siyaad..
Ugaryahaan Siyaad..

Duq Ughadyahaan had 2 sons..

Mahamud Ugarayahaan
Samakab Ugaryahaan

Duq Samakaab had 1 son

Samakab..

Odaay Samakaab had 1 son..

Abdule..

Duq Abdule had 2 sons..

Wacays Abdule..
Ahmed Abdule..

Ahmed Abdule had 3 sons..

The twins..

Nalaye Ahmed & Nur Ahmed.. ( Ali Nur)

Shirwaac Ahmed..

Nalaye Ahmed had 9 sons..

Yusuf Naleye
Sabood Naleye
Cilmi Nalee
Jibril Naleye
Adan Naleye
Abdalle Naleye
Liban Naleye
Ali Naleye ( Omar,Bihi Darees, bihina cabdale, bihin samatar etc..)

Dhulbahante 101...

Ina aadan Reer-Hagaar & Jamac Siyaad ba waa qaac..

Laqanyo I know ma sinaa lakiin they could be equall in numbers..

[ina aadan]

Babygirl wacays aadan mayna ahay reerkii
dhulbahantoo idil isugutagay ee kibir waxay ka qabaan
odhan jiray gabdhaha reerahakale ay soogursadaan
waa in intaan gabadha lagalbin ay soomarto 7 maalmood
nin wacays aadanah

[Babygirl-]

Yeah Wacays Adan were Powerful back in the days (still are ) until they had a woman who led them into wars with neighbouring dhulos..

Ali-Geri destroyed each other in a civil war over Kibir in the 1800's..

Bahararsame were destroyed by an alliance..

Dhulos in the 1800s were full of warlords who raided every neighboring clan..

[Captain24]

BabyG, You lost me in there. But after reading it twice I get it. So the majority are leaning on Reer Hagar being bigger?

[Babygirl-]

Captain it's like Mahamed Omar & Ali Salebaan (lets say they are = in numbers but not in abtiris)

[Captain24]

Yeah I got you sweetie. Omar Wacays queen knows what's she's talking about. I will take your world on it and disappoint the baharsame kid

[Babygirl-]

Why disapoint maskiinka?! tell him you guys maybe wa is legtihin but ma sinidiin...

[Samatr]

Who's bigger Baharsame or Reer Hagar? I got two friends from those sub-clans arguing over which is bigger. So , they asked me and I told them to give me a day to do some research

Reer Hagar.