LAND DISPUTE IN ERIGAVO DISTRICT: THE GAHEYLE ISSUE
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LAND DISPUTE IN ERIGAVO DISTRICT: THE GAHEYLE ISSUE
In Erigavo district, the most contentious land issue involves two much inter-married and territorially mixed dia-paying groups: the Abdi Hamud (Habar Yonis) and Gaheyle (claiming Majerten origin-Sawaqron). Their land which is situated north of Erigavo town, contains irrigated farmlands along the usually narrow, steep valleys that drain the escarpment. Not favourable for fruit and vegetable production due to shortage of water or arable land, the bulk of the mountain terrain occupied by the two groups offers range resources pastured by livestock, while the precipitous mountain chains grow frankincense plants that yield commercial resin. Although free access to pastoral resources found in the frankincense area is observed, incense trees are owned property, and are therefore subject to control rights similar to those over agricultural land. All these resources were exploited, in varying combinations, by the diverse families which belong to the two rival lineages prior to the turmoil.
The Gaheyle were entirely displaced after the termination of the civil war at the beginning of 1991. They have fled to neighbouring Majerten-dominated Bosaso region where they still languish as un-official refugees. No direct negotiation has so far taken place between the Abdi Hamud and dispossessed Gaheyle. This contrasts with the good relations the Warsangeli have had with the dominant Habar Yonis in Erigavo region, and their improving relations with the Dhulbahante - a positive achievement of the sustained bilateral peace discourse.
However, the Gaheyle participated in some of the peace talks that were taken on by non-Habar Yonis clans, most important was the Garadag peace forum. The proclaimed Eastern Alliance that amalgamated the rival Habar Tol jelo and the dispossessed Harti clans appears to have the underlying objective of grouping against the dominant Habar Yonis. Membership of this alliance which was suspected and feared by the Habar Yonis until recently adversely affected the peace opportunity of the Gaheyle. Thus the Gaheyle are accused of playing the Darod card instead of entering into direct negotiations with their counterparts. Rumours of a Gaheyle desire to enter negotiations with the Habar Yonis in the presence of Majerten or alternatively Warsangeli and Dhulbahante, were rampant during the research.
Unfortunately peace prospects for the Gaheyle still remain discouraging, as evidenced by their absence form the current important regional meeting in Erigavo, whose stated grand objective is to settle difficult outstanding issues between major clans. The Warsangeli and Dhulbahante clans participating in the meeting expressed their concern by asking the Habar Yonis what their intention was towards the Gaheyle. The Habar Yonis expressed its opinion, which favours direct negotiation between the concerned parties. They claim that negotiations with the Gaheyle should follow the process other negotiations had gone through- gradual and face-to-face.
At the beginning of August, the Habar Yonis selected a fifteen member committee dominated by Abdi Hamud lineage to start negotiations with the Gaheyle at Yubbe. A Warsangeli emissary was sent to convey the move to Gaheyle who responded that they are not prepared to accept the proposal.
Gaheyle solidarity with the rival Darod and its support to the suspected Eastern Alliance, certainly account as secondary factors discouraging the pace of the peace dialogue between this lineage and Abdi Hamud. The former is accused of having committed vicious atrocities against the Abdi Hamud in particular, and the Habar Yonis in general during the civil war. Their devoted support for the defeated Darod dominated military regime was said to have been unparalleled. As local residents, they knew the area very well and therefore provided the government forces with strategic information that was used against the Habar Yonis.
The Jibrail lineage represent the second important minority group in Erigavo district. They claim Ogaden descent, but unlike the Gaheyle did not offer support to the military government in the civil war. Therefore, they now live in harmony in their homelands with Habar Yonis. In common with the displaced Gaheyle, they have an Akil and enjoy independent status in spite of the fact that they occupy a lowly status as a result of their small number.
The Abdi Hamud and the Habar Yonis in general do not deny the land rights of the displaced Gaheyle and other minority groups. Indeed the Gaheyle and Jibrail, among others, are considered as the original settlers in Erigavo region. Their limited strength reduces their capacity to act as a potential threat to the dominant group and explains the absence of any peace progress so far. Therefore, the more powerful groups have a better chance to see their grievances attended to, as the Dhulbahante and Warsangeli peace developments relating to the dominant Habar Yonis illustrate.
http://www.progressio.org.uk/Shared_ASP ... frecon.pdf page 46
The Gaheyle were entirely displaced after the termination of the civil war at the beginning of 1991. They have fled to neighbouring Majerten-dominated Bosaso region where they still languish as un-official refugees. No direct negotiation has so far taken place between the Abdi Hamud and dispossessed Gaheyle. This contrasts with the good relations the Warsangeli have had with the dominant Habar Yonis in Erigavo region, and their improving relations with the Dhulbahante - a positive achievement of the sustained bilateral peace discourse.
However, the Gaheyle participated in some of the peace talks that were taken on by non-Habar Yonis clans, most important was the Garadag peace forum. The proclaimed Eastern Alliance that amalgamated the rival Habar Tol jelo and the dispossessed Harti clans appears to have the underlying objective of grouping against the dominant Habar Yonis. Membership of this alliance which was suspected and feared by the Habar Yonis until recently adversely affected the peace opportunity of the Gaheyle. Thus the Gaheyle are accused of playing the Darod card instead of entering into direct negotiations with their counterparts. Rumours of a Gaheyle desire to enter negotiations with the Habar Yonis in the presence of Majerten or alternatively Warsangeli and Dhulbahante, were rampant during the research.
Unfortunately peace prospects for the Gaheyle still remain discouraging, as evidenced by their absence form the current important regional meeting in Erigavo, whose stated grand objective is to settle difficult outstanding issues between major clans. The Warsangeli and Dhulbahante clans participating in the meeting expressed their concern by asking the Habar Yonis what their intention was towards the Gaheyle. The Habar Yonis expressed its opinion, which favours direct negotiation between the concerned parties. They claim that negotiations with the Gaheyle should follow the process other negotiations had gone through- gradual and face-to-face.
At the beginning of August, the Habar Yonis selected a fifteen member committee dominated by Abdi Hamud lineage to start negotiations with the Gaheyle at Yubbe. A Warsangeli emissary was sent to convey the move to Gaheyle who responded that they are not prepared to accept the proposal.
Gaheyle solidarity with the rival Darod and its support to the suspected Eastern Alliance, certainly account as secondary factors discouraging the pace of the peace dialogue between this lineage and Abdi Hamud. The former is accused of having committed vicious atrocities against the Abdi Hamud in particular, and the Habar Yonis in general during the civil war. Their devoted support for the defeated Darod dominated military regime was said to have been unparalleled. As local residents, they knew the area very well and therefore provided the government forces with strategic information that was used against the Habar Yonis.
The Jibrail lineage represent the second important minority group in Erigavo district. They claim Ogaden descent, but unlike the Gaheyle did not offer support to the military government in the civil war. Therefore, they now live in harmony in their homelands with Habar Yonis. In common with the displaced Gaheyle, they have an Akil and enjoy independent status in spite of the fact that they occupy a lowly status as a result of their small number.
The Abdi Hamud and the Habar Yonis in general do not deny the land rights of the displaced Gaheyle and other minority groups. Indeed the Gaheyle and Jibrail, among others, are considered as the original settlers in Erigavo region. Their limited strength reduces their capacity to act as a potential threat to the dominant group and explains the absence of any peace progress so far. Therefore, the more powerful groups have a better chance to see their grievances attended to, as the Dhulbahante and Warsangeli peace developments relating to the dominant Habar Yonis illustrate.
http://www.progressio.org.uk/Shared_ASP ... frecon.pdf page 46
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Re: LAND DISPUTE IN ERIGAVO DISTRICT: THE GAHEYLE ISSUE
Ever since the coup MJayz attempted against Siad Bare in 1977, he saw to the disarmament of MJayz himself and he did a good job cause when the civil war started MJayz were basically sitting ducks - had the fucker not made us so vulnerable I'm sure men and ammunitions would have reach the Gaheyle in time but since were talking about 1991, a period in time MJayz were at their weakest point opening two front wasn't in our interest.
Re: LAND DISPUTE IN ERIGAVO DISTRICT: THE GAHEYLE ISSUE
Yeah it's time we send some re-enforcement for our brothers in erigavo and show them habar ceeb jeclo or whatever habar dhocil they are that harti is the boss..
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Re: LAND DISPUTE IN ERIGAVO DISTRICT: THE GAHEYLE ISSUE
Hi Zakaabdul ,, well come back 


In Erigavo town where the bulk of the low status groups have not yet returned home, it is interesting to
note that some of their specialized despised activities had been taken up by some "noble" Isaq families
during their absence. At present, all twelve shoe-making corrugated iron shops in operation in Erigavo
town, are owned by Isaq families who are mostly nomadic families impoverished by the civil war.
Why the hard-pressed Isaq families took up shoe making rather than the other equally despised
occupations is difficult to say. However, one may suggest that metal work demands a special skill
lacked by the noble Somali, while hair dressing may be thought of as more degrading than shoe
making.











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Re: LAND DISPUTE IN ERIGAVO DISTRICT: THE GAHEYLE ISSUE
Warsangeli-Gaheyle Erigavo Alliance 

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Re: LAND DISPUTE IN ERIGAVO DISTRICT: THE GAHEYLE ISSUE
Harti55 wrote:i dont care about those people , they live in somaliland , i care about puntland only
Cardiff Girl ,naga aamus

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Re: LAND DISPUTE IN ERIGAVO DISTRICT: THE GAHEYLE ISSUE
you guys dont understand - the Gaheyle supported the killings of innocent Hamud civilians and now you expect us to give you your little farms you had fuck that we are not having none of that 
Hy is fair clan if you dont kill 1 of us then you can live in peace and Harmony Among us - but the day you kill and support Atrocites against Hamuds thats when you will regret it - the only reason Warsangeli wasnt killed much by HY was because Warsangeli is a Peaceful clan - and they know the rules if you attack HY bari you wont get away with it

Hy is fair clan if you dont kill 1 of us then you can live in peace and Harmony Among us - but the day you kill and support Atrocites against Hamuds thats when you will regret it - the only reason Warsangeli wasnt killed much by HY was because Warsangeli is a Peaceful clan - and they know the rules if you attack HY bari you wont get away with it
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How could they be a southern tribe , ?wtf this Gahyle tribe is very Minority - but warsangeli are welcome to stay with us - i am not even sure if this clan is MJ must be some southern tribe -
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sheekh-Farax-zero wrote:How could they be a southern tribe , ?wtf this Gahyle tribe is very Minority - but warsangeli are welcome to stay with us - i am not even sure if this clan is MJ must be some southern tribe -
i said i am not Sure since MJ are known to have Unsual clans into their Umbrella who are not even 100 Percent Mj
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Majerteen are known to adopt clans.kulahaa
I dare anyone to provide evidence supporting this outrageous claim
I dare anyone to provide evidence supporting this outrageous claim
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Re: LAND DISPUTE IN ERIGAVO DISTRICT: THE GAHEYLE ISSUE
gemini07 wrote:Harti55 wrote:i dont care about those people , they live in somaliland , i care about puntland only
Cardiff Girl ,naga aamus
Gemini for once i agree with u, u made a good call, Harti55 is indeed cardiff girl aka wasteman
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)MAXAMED (Majeerteen). wuxuu dhalay :
-Aawe, Wabeeneeye.
7)AAWE. wuxuu dhalay :
- Cumar, (Sorore) so aawe wiilkaas kaliya buu dhalay
8)CUMAR (Sorore). wuxuu dhalay :
-Nooleys, Ammaanle, Nuux iyo Halmoog (waa iskubah).
8)NOOLEYS. wuxuu dhalay :
- Cabdalle(Daanweyne) Muuse(Idigfacle) (waa iskubah).
-Maxamad (bah gooni)
9)MAXAMED. wuxuu dhalay :
-Walaal Yabare.
10)WALAAL YABARE. wuxuu dhalay :
-Xajiijle.
11)XAJIIJLE. wuxuu dhalay :
-Talareer, Yuusuf, Haylaciyo (waa iskubah).
-Gumasoor iyo Reer Waarag (waa iskubah).
-Fiilkucaag, Deylac iyo Duudmariye (waa iskubah).
12)TALAREER. wuxuu dhalay :
-Xasan(Himidoor), Huseen(Siwaaqroon)
Siwaaqroon Wuxuu Dhalay Gaheyle!!!
Siwaaqroon is one of the oldest Majerteen clans
-Aawe, Wabeeneeye.
7)AAWE. wuxuu dhalay :
- Cumar, (Sorore) so aawe wiilkaas kaliya buu dhalay
8)CUMAR (Sorore). wuxuu dhalay :
-Nooleys, Ammaanle, Nuux iyo Halmoog (waa iskubah).
8)NOOLEYS. wuxuu dhalay :
- Cabdalle(Daanweyne) Muuse(Idigfacle) (waa iskubah).
-Maxamad (bah gooni)
9)MAXAMED. wuxuu dhalay :
-Walaal Yabare.
10)WALAAL YABARE. wuxuu dhalay :
-Xajiijle.
11)XAJIIJLE. wuxuu dhalay :
-Talareer, Yuusuf, Haylaciyo (waa iskubah).
-Gumasoor iyo Reer Waarag (waa iskubah).
-Fiilkucaag, Deylac iyo Duudmariye (waa iskubah).
12)TALAREER. wuxuu dhalay :
-Xasan(Himidoor), Huseen(Siwaaqroon)
Siwaaqroon Wuxuu Dhalay Gaheyle!!!
Siwaaqroon is one of the oldest Majerteen clans

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Re: LAND DISPUTE IN ERIGAVO DISTRICT: THE GAHEYLE ISSUE
gemini07 wrote:Majerteen are known .kulahaa
I dare anyone to provide evidence supporting this outrageous claim

1 question for you do you think Gaheyle Mj have rights to claim appeal for the little land they lost? - i know you will say yes in your MJ point of View - but i find it ridiclous a clan who snitched on my boys to Afweyn to come and knock my door and want their play back - things dont work like that anymore the Xamud took it 18 years ago its too late to claim it back dont you think? or you support an attempt by Puntland to claim it back - which will develop to a major war - something mjs are not fond of?
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Re: LAND DISPUTE IN ERIGAVO DISTRICT: THE GAHEYLE ISSUE
gemini07 wrote:)MAXAMED (Majeerteen). wuxuu dhalay :
-Aawe, Wabeeneeye.
7)AAWE. wuxuu dhalay :
- Cumar, (Sorore) so aawe wiilkaas kaliya buu dhalay
8)CUMAR (Sorore). wuxuu dhalay :
-Nooleys, Ammaanle, Nuux iyo Halmoog (waa iskubah).
8)NOOLEYS. wuxuu dhalay :
- Cabdalle(Daanweyne) Muuse(Idigfacle) (waa iskubah).
-Maxamad (bah gooni)
9)MAXAMED. wuxuu dhalay :
-Walaal Yabare.
10)WALAAL YABARE. wuxuu dhalay :
-Xajiijle.
11)XAJIIJLE. wuxuu dhalay :
-Talareer, Yuusuf, Haylaciyo (waa iskubah).
-Gumasoor iyo Reer Waarag (waa iskubah).
-Fiilkucaag, Deylac iyo Duudmariye (waa iskubah).
12)TALAREER. wuxuu dhalay :
-Xasan(Himidoor), Huseen(Siwaaqroon)
Siwaaqroon Wuxuu Dhalay Gaheyle!!!
Siwaaqroon is one of the oldest Majerteen clans
ok i believe they are MJ now then
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