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Somali Islamist claims he's uniting insurgents....

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MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) — A hardline Somali leader on a U.N. list of terror suspects claimed Tuesday to be making progress in uniting two Islamist insurgent factions as a single front against the Western-backed government.

Militiamen loyal to Islamic Party leader Sheik Hassan Dahir Aweys have been fighting side-by-side in recent weeks with al-Shabab, an extremist Islamist group considered by the U.S. State Department to be a terrorist organization with links to al-Qaida. Al-Shabab denies that.

"Talks to unite al-Shabab and the Islamic Party are at an advanced stage," Aweys told The Associated Press by telephone in his first interview since becoming the Islamic Party leader May 27.

"We are already in agreement over the issue of driving out foreign invaders and granting Somalis the right to choose," their government," said Aweys. He is also on a U.N. list of individuals with links to al-Qaida. Aweys has denied having such links.

Officials of al-Shabab were not immediately available for comment and it was impossible to verify his claim. But closer ties between the two groups could allow them to share resources such as arms supplies and troops, posing a more potent threat to the Western-backed government.

Aweys's group, with the backing of hundreds of foreign fighters, supports a strict interpretation of Islam that have frightened many Somalis into submission with threats of stonings and other harsh punishments.

Aweys returned to Mogadishu in April, from self-imposed exile in Eritrea.

Diplomats have said insurgents in recent weeks have a received a major boost from as many as 400 foreigners who are believed to have come from as far as the battlefields of Afghanistan. Experts have expressed fears that the foreign Islamic militants could use Somalia as a base for terror in the region.

The insurgents launched a major offensive against the government last month and the government retaliated, with the battles claiming almost 200 civilians.

The U.N. refugee agency said on Tuesday that 70,000 civilians have fled their homes in Mogadishu, with two thirds of them leaving the city altogether.

Residents in southwestern Mogadishu and a government official said that pro-government forces on Tuesday recaptured a police station close to Mogadishu's main airport from Islamic insurgents and at least three people were killed in the six-hour long battle. It was not clear if the dead people were civilians or Islamic fighters.
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Re: Somali Islamist claims he's uniting insurgents....

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Shiekh Aweys wuu waashay, yaa naga fadhiisiya
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War yaa Muslinoo kan yar Qur'aan saara
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So Qur'aanka tuu ku wareeray maaha. Easy step by step bay ahayd in lagu bilaawo :lol: :lol:
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the mujahideen must unite to avoid the the great evil/corruption that comes with fitnah among the believers, especially those fighting in the way of allah swt, i.e. the mujahideen. indeed, we've sadly seen too many times recently the fitnah of mujahideen fighting amongst themselves after just defeating the forces of satan, e.g. bosnia, afghanistan. so i think this a great first steep, i.e. them having talks to close ranks. may allah swt make their negotiations fruitful and successful..... ameen!

as allah the most high states in his book:"The Believers are but a single Brotherhood: So make peace and reconciliation between your two (contending) brothers; and fear Allah, that ye may receive Mercy." [EMQ 49: 10]


but having said that, it's a must that they unite under the banner tawheed - not half tawheed/half nationalism or something similar. haq is clear from batil! they two can never mix - either there's pure tawheed or no tawheed. as sayyid qutb - may allah accept him among the shuhada - said:

Islam cannot accept any mixing with Jahiliyyah. Either Islam will remain, or Jahiliyyah; no half-half situation is possible. Command belongs to Allah, or otherwise to Jahiliyyah; Allah's Shari'ah will prevail, or else people's desires: "And if they do not respond to you, then know that they only follow their own lusts. And who is more astray than one who follows his own lusts, without guidance from Allah? Verily! Allah guides not the people who are disobedient."[28:50]; "Do they then seek the judgement of (the Days of) Ignorance? And who is better in judgement than Allah for a people who have firm faith"[5:50].

so if shaykh aweys wants to unite his group with shabab al-mujahideen - and he's should be commended for that - then he needs to rid himself of all traits of nationalism/somalinimo and fully embrace the blessed brotherhood of islam that only exist under the banner of la ilaha illallah. that means no mentioning or talks of nationalism. no more somalia is for somalis only non-sense. no more telling the the shaykh of the mujahideen bin laden - may allah be pleased with him - that he shouldn't meddle in the affairs of the somalis. etc. it also means that the fight must be only for la ilaha illallah and shouldn't be negotiable. the fight can't be for hukum; the fight must be to return all hukum for allah alone. etc. etc.
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Voltage wrote:So Qur'aanka tuu ku wareeray maaha. Easy step by step bay ahayd in lagu bilaawo :lol: :lol:
lol

In that case, in lagu digriyo ayuu u baahan yahay :up:
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Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said: “Moderation is the best of actions and good manner of conduct and moderation are a twenty-fifth part of Prophethood."
At the time the prophet ordered the people to perform acts of worship, he warned them against going to extremes (in practicing religion). He did so in order to prevent them from harming themselves physically or spiritually and from neglecting their other responsibilities and activities.
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voltage, thanks for the reminder; even if the truth is clear but the intentions are not. also, i'll overlook the lack of context. :s
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I'm still waiting on American drone to drop a bomb on Aweys hut in Mogadishu. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Somali-Star wrote:voltage, thanks for the reminder; even if the truth is clear but the intentions are not. also, i'll overlook the lack of context. :s
I suppose you have Godly powers now eh? Can see my qalbi right?
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division between Aweys and shabaab is very deeper than you think,it has to do with his relationship to Eritrea which they view as christian country with its own agenda

note Aweys was in bad line with his closest kin and leader tat time,the late Ceyrow AUN, they wee not even talking together before he past

ceyrow was quoted sayin "how can i talk to a man (aweys) that sit with red-dressed Fowsiya in a such gathering,,"referring to the conference for Reliberatin front in Asmara,, Fowsiya was the woman from the free parliamntarians in Asmara group :lol: :lol:
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If they unite good for them, if not bad for them!
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Re: Somali Islamist claims he's uniting insurgents....

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voltage,

saying i didn't get your intention/meaning behind your post, as it wasn't clear to me = me claiming to know what's in your heart? lool

anyhoo, i don't know what your intentions were for posting those hadiths..... if your intentions were to please allah swt, then may he swt reward you for them.

but, as i understand them, those hadiths have nothing to with supporting the mujahideen, jihad, or showing love towards the ummah and showing hatred towards the mushrikeen, for allah's sake, etc, etc. but they've to do with someone going to extremes in act of worships; like reading allah's book non-stop for days on, going to extremes in salat prayers, fasting perpetually, etc, etc. basically, we must be all around in our worship of allah swt while at same time taking care of the necessary dunya matters.... sadly, (these hadiths) they get abused like other parts of the deen.....

i don't know how you understand them.....


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