In response to Voltages HIV thread

[razzberry]

I notice many comparing statistics between AAs, Somalis, and other Africans. Correct me if im wrong but when national census and statistics are done like these the states/government does not distinguish between the ethnic groups right? All whites are bunched together, all Latinos are bunched together and all Asians are bunched together.

[razzberry]

I brought this up because the sister of a friend of mine works in the DC area which is supposed to have the highest rate of HIV per capita among AAs than in anywhere else in the US. According to her a large % of those people are of Ethiopian decent.

On a larger scale are Somalis, Ethiopians, Eritrean and descendants of slaves being all counted as African American?

[FAH1223]

yes, they are

but theres a lot of f@ggots in Washington DC... its disgusting and they are bi as well

[SummerRain]

True. But even so, states have started collecting stats according to different ethnic groups within their population, atleast in MN. THere has been increased diagnosis of new cases within the East African population primarily Ethiopians. Somalis are increasing in number as well(I think they are new immigrants IMO). Even with these newer cases, I dont think it holds any significance compared to what the stats are for AAs....we are talking over 60% of the US HIV/AIDs diagnosis

[SummerRain]

I brought this up because the sister of a friend of mine works in the DC area which is supposed to have the highest rate of HIV per capita among AAs than in anywhere else in the US. According to her a large % of those people are of Ethiopian decent. On a larger scale are Somalis, Ethiopians, Eritrean and descendants of slaves being all counted as African American?

Thats ridiculous. THere can't be possibily more Ethios than AAs in the DC area From what I hear, 1 in 4 or 5 women in that area is infected and they contract it from men who are on the down low.

[FAH1223]

I brought this up because the sister of a friend of mine works in the DC area which is supposed to have the highest rate of HIV per capita among AAs than in anywhere else in the US. According to her a large % of those people are of Ethiopian decent. On a larger scale are Somalis, Ethiopians, Eritrean and descendants of slaves being all counted as African American?

Thats ridiculous. THere can't be possibily more Ethios than AAs in the DC area From what I hear, 1 in 4 or 5 women in that area is infected and they contract it from men who are on the down low.

The Ethiopian community in this area numbers about the same size as the Somali one in MPLS.

But this is one of the most populated areas in the nation where the AAs reside.

Most of the HIV/AIDs cases documented especially in DC is from the AA community growing... i dunno about the xabashi but I'd bet they have a good amount as well.

[Basra-]

ismahan and Fah are two adorable cute obese kids.

[SummerRain]

I brought this up because the sister of a friend of mine works in the DC area which is supposed to have the highest rate of HIV per capita among AAs than in anywhere else in the US. According to her a large % of those people are of Ethiopian decent. On a larger scale are Somalis, Ethiopians, Eritrean and descendants of slaves being all counted as African American?

Thats ridiculous. THere can't be possibily more Ethios than AAs in the DC area From what I hear, 1 in 4 or 5 women in that area is infected and they contract it from men who are on the down low.

The Ethiopian community in this area numbers about the same size as the Somali one in MPLS.

But this is one of the most populated areas in the nation where the AAs reside.

Most of the HIV/AIDs cases documented especially in DC is from the AA community growing... i dunno about the xabashi but I'd bet they have a good amount as well.

http://www.wwc.org/hiv_aids_services/statistics.html

All the fast sheets, show Black/African American as one ethnic group.

Based on the the available stat, its hard to tell what ethnicities within the "Black" population is the highest. But I guess common sense will tell you, its African Americans who are the majority.

[Voltage]

NO YOU ARE WRONG.

Stop trying to pin the well known "down-low HIV culture" of African Americans on Somalis or other East Africans.

The fact of the matter is the Somali people are counted as a SEPARATE ethnic group when these things are taken into consideration. I never talked about national statistics but the Seattle statistics I brought treat Somalis as a unique group within the statistics just like African Americans are. They are not "bunch together" because it is like bring together Chinese and African Americans because they share the same amount of melanin. We have nothing to do with each other, experience or otherwise for us to share a single rap sheet.

The specific hospital I mentioned, Harborview, even has well researched "ethnomed" information about Somali patients for doctors and researchers within the University of Washington health centers of which Harborview is part of.

http://ethnomed.org/cultures/somali/somali_cp.html

[Voltage]

True. But even so, states have started collecting stats according to different ethnic groups within their population, atleast in MN.

Seattle has been doing that for Somalis since 1996.

[razzberry]

NO YOU ARE WRONG.

Stop trying to pin the well known "down-low HIV culture" of African Americans on Somalis or other East Africans.

The fact of the matter is the Somali people are counted as a SEPARATE ethnic group when these things are taken into consideration. I never talked about national statistics but the Seattle statistics I brought treat Somalis as a unique group within the statistics just like African Americans are. They are not "bunch together" because it is like bring together Chinese and African Americans because they share the same amount of melanin. We have nothing to do with each other, experience or otherwise for us to share a single rap sheet.

The specific hospital I mentioned, Harborview, even has well researched "ethnomed" information about Somali patients for doctors and researchers within the University of Washington health centers of which Harborview is part of.

Are you responding to me or Ismahan? I’m simply asking a question. What in gods name would make you think I would want to bunch Somalis with AAs or any other group for that matter?

When it comes to taking census I know that sometimes ethnic groups are taken into consideration. For example when doing certain studies Chinese would be compared to Philippine however on a broader scale both groups are counted as Asian pure and simple.

As far as DC goes. I’m not fibbing about the Ethiopian part. There is a very large population of them.

I’m not the one putting the HIV/AIDS stigma on east Africans. Was it or was it not you who started the first thread about HIV and Abortion being on the rise in your culture?

[Voltage]

I know apologism when I see it and it is not only Washington, D.C. African Americans account for a disproportionate number in the national number because of one thing...homosexual men wanting to do what they want while trying to look manly and keep a woman on the side.

East African populations are negligible in the whole national statistic. Since 1970 to now, only 60K Ethiopians have been brought into this country. More Somalis have been brought in the last decade than Ethiopians combined during all those years. Unless 90% of the Ethio population is AIDS stricken which is what you are telling us, their numbers are truly negligible to have any influence in the national African American statistics. More African-Americans live in Washington, DC then Ethiopians in this whole country.

Forgot about Somalis, cuz we are talking about and ringing siren bells at the most 2% infection rate.

[Somalian_Boqor]

http://ethnomed.org/cultures/somali/somali_cp.html

Dude that site has no information on the number or percentage of Somalis with Aids/HIV/STDs in Washington.

IT's all Somali history is Culture/Medcine.

[Voltage]

I know S Boq, I am showing her Somalis are treated as distinct group when it comes to Seattle.

[razzberry]

I know apologism when I see it and it is not only Washington, D.C. African Americans account for a disproportionate number in the national number because of one thing...homosexual men wanting to do what they want while trying to look manly and keep a woman on the side.

East African populations are negligible in the whole national statistic. Since 1970 to now, only 60K Ethiopians have been brought into this country. More Somalis have been brought in the last decade than Ethiopians combined during all those years. Unless 90% of the Ethio population is AIDS stricken which is what you are telling us, their numbers are truly negligible to have any influence in the national African American statistics. More African-Americans live in Washington, DC then Ethiopians in this whole country.

Forgot about Somalis, cuz we are talking about and ringing siren bells at the most 2% infection rate.

Was all that necessary?

My question was pretty clear from the start. A simple yes or no would have sufficed.