Why Don't We Follow The Political System That Work?

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Why Don't We Follow The Political System That Work?

Post by Somalian_Boqor »

Sharif Ahmed has failed, Al Shabaab have failed, centralised systems based on clan hegomony has failed. The only things that have worked are the local admins in the North. Somali's need to replicate them and get their houses in order. The vicious cycle will be broken when people replicate the successful admins of Puntland & Somaliland and stop the meaningless clan militia build ups taking place all over the south.

Just my thoughts, whats you guys take on this?
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Re: Why Don't We Follow The Political System That Works?

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Shabaab works
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Shirib wrote:Shabaab works
How has Shabaab worked?

Perhaps as a Military Might but not as a Political System that could have Somalia up and running.

Shabaab wa iska bunch of Youth with no real agenda.

Puntland iyo Somaliland are actually real Political systems that work. And I believe it is the way out.
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Re: Why Don't We Follow The Political System That Work?

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Shabaab have secured area and set up an administration. How is that different from Puntland?
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Re: Why Don't We Follow The Political System That Work?

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The only The Political System That would work is Sharia Law and as far as we know Somalia refused Sharia law and so called islamist jihadist are taking advantage of lawless country and lawless people! If we accept the idea of law that is derived from both the Qoran, as the word ofAllah, the example of the life of the prophet Muhammad, and fatwas - the rulings of Islamic scholars and chose one leader to lead us with such law, i think we would be fine. But corruption, greed and poverty have consumed Somalia and it will take years to recover from these.
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Re: Why Don't We Follow The Political System That Work?

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surrender wrote:The only The Political System That would work is Sharia Law and as far as we know Somalia refused Sharia law and so called islamist jihadist are taking advantage of lawless country and lawless people! If we accept the idea of law that is derived from both the Qoran, as the word ofAllah, the example of the life of the prophet Muhammad, and fatwas - the rulings of Islamic scholars and chose one leader to lead us with such law, i think we would be fine. But corruption, greed and poverty have consumed Somalia and it will take years to recover from these.
somalis all want sharia law
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Re: Why Don't We Follow The Political System That Work?

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if it was introduced and all somalis support it
why are people still dying :|
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No they don’t! If they wanted sharia and accepted the idea they wouldn’t kill each other day in day out for 19yrs and still going!
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Post by AbdiWahab252 »

No to miniBantustans who go to Addis Ababa to kiss arse and are managed like any other Woreda (province in amharic) and pay tribute:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woreda

A strong Central Government is the way to go.
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Re: Why Don't We Follow The Political System That Work?

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surrender wrote:No they don’t! If they wanted sharia and accepted the idea they wouldn’t kill each other day in day out for 19yrs and still going!
yes they do want sharia law

and people are fighting for the kursi
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Re: Why Don't We Follow The Political System That Work?

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Shirib wrote:Shabaab have secured area and set up an administration. How is that different from Puntland?
But it's not working. The Areas they control is like North Korea. They have taken away people's God given rights.
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Re: Why Don't We Follow The Political System That Works?

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AbdiWahab252 wrote:No to miniBantustans who go to Addis Ababa to kiss arse and are managed like any other Woreda (province in amharic) and pay tribute:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woreda

A strong Central Government is the way to go.
A strong Central Government already failed marka why would you want another one? :shock:
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Re: Why Don't We Follow The Political System That Work?

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Somalian_Boqor wrote:
Shirib wrote:Shabaab have secured area and set up an administration. How is that different from Puntland?
But it's not working. The Areas they control is like North Korea. They have taken away people's God given rights.
How is it not working? And what god given rights have they taken away?
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Re: Why Don't We Follow The Political System That Work?

Post by AbdiWahab252 »

FAH,

Somalis want law and order period. If it comes under Sharica or under the Napoleonic code, it will be eagerly embraced.

If anyone is duped into believing that Sharica law will fix everything, they are sipping a unholy concoction. All that is required is one side to win and enforce its will on the others.

Somalian,

Both examples are weak province vassal states of Ethiopia. They are administered as regions of Greater Ethiopia and fit into the Ethiopian strategy of keeping a weak Somalia.

:lol: :lol: @ Shirib. In Somalian's opinion, Abu Mansur and Co need to trade up from the Afghan clothes into Prada suits and get clean shaves to be considered legit.
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Re: Why Don't We Follow The Political System That Work?

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FAH1223 wrote:yes they do want sharia law and people are fighting for the kursi
Contradiction right there.
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