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Is Sland Nearing Civil War?

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Awdal regions do not support sland and infact support somalia. They were forced to sign sland agreement in 91 at the point of a gun, you probably should go read about that. Secondly rayale is going to post-pone the elections again because he bribed the guurti to re-write the constitution so he can never leave power.

Lastly there is fighting in sland every-day...here reported by garowe online read below
Somalia: Businessman 'imports weapons' into Somaliland
9 Jun 9, 2009 - 1:43:52 PM

HARGEISA, Somalia June 9 (Garowe Online) - A cache of weapons docked at a small harbor in Zeila, a coastal town in Somalia's breakaway republic of Somaliland, Radio Garowe reports Tuesday.

Somaliland newspapers printed headlines that the weapons were secretly unloaded at Zeila harbor and transported by road south to Borama, the home town of Somaliland President Dahir Riyale near the Ethiopian border.

Somaliland authorities have not spoken publicly about media reports that weapons were secretly imported, but confidential sources in Hargeisa said the weapons were bought in Yemen by a Borama businessman.

The arrival of the weapons shipment comes a week after two warring clans in Somaliland who traditionally inhabit the towns of Borama and Gabiley disagreed over mediation efforts, with the clan in Borama reportedly rejecting a peace proposal.

Somaliland, located in northwestern Somalia, unilaterally declared independence from Somalia in 1991 but has not been recognized internationally.

Source: Garowe Online
Reference Link:http://www.garoweonline.com/artman2/pub ... land.shtml

This story is also confirmed to be true by united nations
A shipment of weapons (reserve of small arms) has reportedly been docked at a harbor in
Zeylac. This comes in comes in a week after two warring clans in Somaliland reportedly
disagreed with current mediation efforts and rejected a peace proposal.26 (9 Jun)
Source Link: http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache%3A ... l=en&gl=au

So please don't respond and say garowe online is lying because the united nations also confirmed garowe online. If garowe online is lying, so is the united nations which represents 300 nations. Are u going to say 300 nations are lying? :mrgreen:

So address the issue. By the way garowe online is very factual organization, one of my trusted news-agency because it speaks on facts not myths. And whenever i read something from there i always find verification from indepedent agencies. I can not say the same for sland because i have caught them lying and can prove it so many times that it is joke now and i don't bother reading their material nor does any united nations ever confirm sland news stories because they lie to much but garowe online is always confirmed as trustworthy by united nation because its professional reporting.

Point is sland is at war, what are u going to do about it?
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Re: Is Sland Nearing Civil War?

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Is it not true that when Puntland had a civil war Somalilanders intervened to help make the peace?
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Aliyah...el-afweyn elders did help build peace yes...but did they do that as favor? no they did that because they know Abdullahi Yusuf and his puntland forces beat all somaliland forces in 2002-2004 war. Sland sent all its forces, puntland sent all its forces and we won in 1 week. So the elders of el afweyn were looking after themselves from abdullahi wrath. And it was in their interest to be seen as good party so they weren't invaded.

Sland defeated puntland in 2007 because puntland was in the south and half manned in sool. They still required inside spies from dhulbahante to tell them were the half-manned puntland forces were. That is why the won in 2007, because puntland was to busy kicking hawiye butt in hamar and let their guard down in sool.

But as of 2002-2004 wars we all saw the force sland can bring and everything they have and we defeated them in 1 week capturing many lands, Abdullahi Yusuf is fair-man though he didn't attack isaaq territories because he doesn't believe in occupy different tribes area, he just takes what is harti land. That is the way all the world works also. Kosovo was given a region because they were muslims, eritrea was given a region because they were muslims, east timor was given a region because they were christians and different to indonesia's muslims.

All regions are decided by ethnic, religious, or political lines not colonial lines. Do u know what it means to say things are decided by colonial lines? that means syria, lebanon, jordan, and israel was all colonial greater palestine and they should be united back because of colonial borders...lol that will never happen because the world doesnt decide upon colonial borders, they decide upon ethnic, religious, and political idealogies. Syria was cut of as muslim majority, lebanon as christian majority, jordan as muslim majority, and israel as jewish majority.

Same with our Abdullahi Yusuf he decides borders by ethnic lines just like everybody else in the world does, noone decides borders on colonial lines. Only sland think that but thats why they sitting 17 years like losers in hargeisa. Wake up colonial borders mean shit in the real world, thats why puntland is supported today by washington and sland got slapped.

Anyways if u dont think sland sent all its troops to defend sool and sanaag...u can verify this quote below...
While the security situation in the north has been generally quiet, security
phase 4 is still in effect, in part because of attacks on aid workers in 2004. However,
the continued confrontation between “Somaliland” and “Puntland” over control of
the Sool and Sanaag regions remains a serious concern. Although both sides have
deployed troops in the area since December 2002, there had been few armed clashes
until November 2004, when several men from both sides were killed in a clash near
Las Anod. The two sides sent reinforcements to the area and their rhetoric suggested
that a serious confrontation was imminent. Confrontation was however averted
following diplomatic efforts and the intervention of traditional leaders. A long-term
solution has not been found, and the two sides continue to deploy troops in the area.
Elsewhere in
Source:http://www.un-somalia.org/docs/N0524088_s_2005_89.pdf

As u can see u can't use that sland was busy in "election" propaganda. They were all there on the border and they sent reinforcement and continued to deploy more troops. They were fully armed and prepared and sent everything they had to puntland and they were defeated in 1 week. That is why el afweyn elders tried to broker peace between puntland because they worried about being invaded themselves and they know sland militia can't defeat puntland forces when they both show-down full capacity.

Sland militia can only defeat puntland when puntland is half-manned and busy in hamar. That should show u that sland knows they cant defeat us full force, so they attack when puntland is in hamar because that is their best chance to win. Lol..their not strong army aliyah, their weak and were defeated quickly when they brought everything they had in 2003.

I hope that clears up the snm propaganda u been fed with united nations security reports. :mrgreen:
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Re: Is Sland Nearing Civil War?

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Aliyah...do u know what Harti means? it means strong-man...don't forget that :mrgreen:
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Osman-NZ wrote:Aliyah...do u know what Harti means? it means strong-man...don't forget that :mrgreen:
In your case strong man fighting a cyber war against somaliland :lol:
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Aliyah adiga in been laga sheego ma jeceshahay? of course not and that's what sland media does regarding other regions. That is the main-reason why i am setting the record straight so ppl can see the snm propaganda is false by using credible internationally respected agencies as my evidence.

So you have no reason to go on and believe the snm khutbah...most mjs dont bother with it because they see it beneath them, but i do bother with it because i am good person i help others who are brainwashed by lies n propaganda.
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Believe me Aliyah the older mj's and for that matter darod still speak of isaaq as second class citizens to them. They don't even address them thinking they are to good to associate with snm rebels while they are royalty.

But i am younger generation so i address it.
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Anyways if u dont think sland sent all its troops to defend sool and sanaag...u can verify this quote below...
While the security situation in the north has been generally quiet, security
phase 4 is still in effect, in part because of attacks on aid workers in 2004. However,
the continued confrontation between “Somaliland” and “Puntland” over control of
the Sool and Sanaag regions remains a serious concern. Although both sides have
deployed troops in the area since December 2002, there had been few armed clashes
until November 2004, when several men from both sides were killed in a clash near
Las Anod. The two sides sent reinforcements to the area and their rhetoric suggested
that a serious confrontation was imminent. Confrontation was however averted
following diplomatic efforts and the intervention of traditional leaders
. A long-term
solution has not been found, and the two sides continue to deploy troops in the area.
Elsewhere in
Source:http://www.un-somalia.org/docs/N0524088_s_2005_89.pdf

Confrontation was averted otherwise sland would've send pland army packing...it was bcuz of the elders that we did not fght due to the fact that they didnt wanted civilians to die and wanted to solve the problem diplomatically....simple as that otherwise we were right there and just the fact that darood elders knowing that pland army will be destroyed used diplomacy not only to protect innocent civilians but also pland army...


by the way when did pland army defeated sland army....WHEN...sland army defeated pland in 2007...can u honestly said that pland took over sland army from las canod??????
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Lali clan-elders now..yesterday they were saying elections...so from 2004-2007 when sland militia was doing across the border assaults have u forgotten? Where was the clan-elders to stop that?...Listen kiddo dahir rayale always wanted to capture it but couldn't untill puntland forces were half-manned and busy in hamar that is when he attacked...don't kidd yourself...we all saw sland militia capability it was over in 1 week...we don't fear sland their to easy...we fear religious extremist if anyone..

Sland lost sool and sanaag completely and were hiding out 100 miles outside the border. Thats where they always based. We took sool and sanaag are u saying we didnt? loooooool so who was sitting in sool and sanaag for 4 years? i guess it was sland right? hahaahahahah....u r seriously a f-king joke and in denial

Anyways united nation security report shows that sland sent everything they have...and defeated in 1 week...when sland beat puntland, it is because puntland was in the south..and everyone knows puntland went to the south with uncle abdullahi....u can only beat us when we are half-manned, your militia is only strong enuff to beat us half-manned and still need dhulos spies...we never got dhulos support at first when we attacked sool...we just came charging in..and it's well known many dhulos were against us at first..
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:lol: :lol: :lol: whole of sanaag n sool....1week... :lol: enuff said....ozman u won .. now have a kitkat.. :up:
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yunis09 wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: whole of sanaag n sool....1week... :lol: enuff said....ozman u won .. now have a kitkat.. :up:

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