Cooking up a map

[FAH1223]

That I think James Dahl could have done a lot better

[Ducaysane_87]

That I think James Dahl could have done a lot better

what map is it , the current political factions and where they control miyaa?

[FAH1223]

That I think James Dahl could have done a lot better

what map is it , the current political factions and where they control miyaa?

yes, but its more outlining the areas of dispute

[Ducaysane_87]

That I think James Dahl could have done a lot better

what map is it , the current political factions and where they control miyaa?

yes, but its more outlining the areas of dispute

haye bal we will see how accurate you get it right - i can send you a map of sanaag and the districts and who lives where

[FAH1223]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 009123.png

Somalia's Current Dynamic as of 7/15/2009

[zingii]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 009123.png

How do you know for sure he made that map?
I dont see his name.

[FAH1223]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 009123.png

How do you know for sure he made that map?
I dont see his name.

the last map he made, had his name on it

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... tricts.png

the one on my previous post, is the one I had someone do, but I dictated on how I wanted it done

[James Dahl]

When I first started doing the map I did dispute zones like that, but really one side or the other is in control of the territory.

Mind you that meant I had to change the map all the time to keep up with territorial losses/gains, but oh well.

Some areas are well and truly disputed, such as Xarardhere, but not between al-Shabab and someone else but between several different TFG-aligned would-be states, Galmudug, Ximan-Xiib both claim it (though I don't know the exact relationship between Galmudug and Ximan-Xiib, it's a bit ambiguous), and I've seen several Mudulood state proposals that include the town as well.

As far as I know both Galmudug and Ximan-Xiib have governors and mayors for Xarardhere.

HG's need to get their act together, if there are so many overlapping claims, why seperate states? Why not just one HG state?

[Voltage]

Galmudug state ceased to exist. Ahlu Sunna pulled a coup de'tate

Also that map is wrong. Al Shabaab has since taken over Jowhar, all of Middle Shabelle, and most of Hiiraan up to the countryside of Beled-Weyne.

Galmudug does not exist anymore and Al Shabaab does not control Ceelbuur, and Hisbul Islam is not control Lower Jubba, Al Shabaab is. Hisbul Islam controls only the northern half of Gedo in the Jubba Valley and areas around Dhoobleey.

[James Dahl]

Galmudug state ceased to exist. Ahlu Sunna pulled a coup de'tate

When did this happen?
I have been out of the loop.

[Voltage]

Even Galmudug president Kimiko recognized them follow the coup

Shabelle Media Network (Mogadishu)
Somalia: Galmudug State Welcomes Ahlu Sunna's Take Over of Southern Galka'yo Town

Galka'yo — The regional administration president of Galmudug Mr. Ali Mohamed Warsame has welcomed the decision of the Ahlu Sunna waljma'a organization for taking over the management of southern Galka'ayo town in central Somalia.

Mr. Warsame told Shabelle radio that he welcomes greatly for handling the administration of Galmudug state in the south of Galka'ayo town in Mudug region pointing out that it was a good step taken to the right direction.

He said that the religious clerics of Ahlu Sunna Waljama'a protected violence and saved more political problems from the people in the region adding that new administration was formed by members of the parliament by a time his office is yet working there.

There had been a political deadlock there as the regional administration parliamentarians held meeting recently in the region and appointed a president for the new administration before the former leader's term end.

Any how the deposed president of Galmudug state Ali Mohamed Warsame insisted that he is still the president of the regional administration of Galmudug state welcoming Ahlu Sunna Wljama'a clerics' decision for taking over the control of south of Galka'yo town in Galgudud region.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200907080730.html

[Twisted_Logic]

When I first started doing the map I did dispute zones like that, but really one side or the other is in control of the territory.

Mind you that meant I had to change the map all the time to keep up with territorial losses/gains, but oh well.

Some areas are well and truly disputed, such as Xarardhere, but not between al-Shabab and someone else but between several different TFG-aligned would-be states, Galmudug, Ximan-Xiib both claim it (though I don't know the exact relationship between Galmudug and Ximan-Xiib, it's a bit ambiguous), and I've seen several Mudulood state proposals that include the town as well.

As far as I know both Galmudug and Ximan-Xiib have governors and mayors for Xarardhere.

HG's need to get their act together, if there are so many overlapping claims, why seperate states? Why not just one HG state?

Majority of Xaradheere is Wacesley. It is my maternal parent's ancestral homeland. I would say that wacesley is 60%, Saruur is 15% and Salebaan is 25%. I don't know why Galmudug would involve itself in Xaradheere since it has no clan presence there.

[Twisted_Logic]

Galmudug state ceased to exist. Ahlu Sunna pulled a coup de'tate

Also that map is wrong. Al Shabaab has since taken over Jowhar, all of Middle Shabelle, and most of Hiiraan up to the countryside of Beled-Weyne.

Galmudug does not exist anymore and Al Shabaab does not control Ceelbuur, and Hisbul Islam is not control Lower Jubba, Al Shabaab is. Hisbul Islam controls only the northern half of Gedo in the Jubba Valley and areas around Dhoobleey.

Al Shabab are only in Maxas and and part of Bulo Barte. The rest is in ICU hands

[Voltage]

http://www.voanews.com/somali/2009-07-06-voa7.cfm

[Voltage]

Galmudug state ceased to exist. Ahlu Sunna pulled a coup de'tate

Also that map is wrong. Al Shabaab has since taken over Jowhar, all of Middle Shabelle, and most of Hiiraan up to the countryside of Beled-Weyne.

Galmudug does not exist anymore and Al Shabaab does not control Ceelbuur, and Hisbul Islam is not control Lower Jubba, Al Shabaab is. Hisbul Islam controls only the northern half of Gedo in the Jubba Valley and areas around Dhoobleey.

Al Shabab are only in Maxas and and part of Bulo Barte. The rest is in ICU hands

ICU doesn't exist. It was an umbrella for all Shiekhs whose military wing was Al Shabaab. It fractured long ago sxb. The last major military support of Shiekh Sharif in the region defected to Hisbul Islam when the speaker of the parliament asked for "neighboring state interference within 24 hours".