shabab wants to kill french hostages, hizbul islam refuses.

[hanqadh]

Somalia moves to free French agents


The two French agents were abducted from their
hotel in the capital Mogadishu [AFP]


Somali officials have mounted an effort to secure the release of two French security advisers who were abducted by armed men from their hotel in war-torn Mogadishu.

Somalia's defence minister told French radio on Wednesday that the authorities had already made arrests in connection with the kidnapping.

"We have information on the people behind this kidnapping. We don't know their names but we know to whom they belong, their group," Mohammed Addi Gandhi told Radio France Internationale.

"They are an armed group. They might want a ransom, but it's not a political kidnapping," he said. "They're people who profit from the violence in Mogadishu."

He said that "contact" had been made with the kidnappers but gave no further details on that, the arrests or the troop searches.

Hostage dispute

Despite Gandhi's assertions, no group has yet claimed responsibility for the abduction of the two men, described by Paris as security consultants, who were abducted on Tuesday.

The two were taken from their hotel rooms by armed men, some of who were reportedly wearing government uniforms.

One high-ranking Somali security official was reported by the AFP news agency as saying that the kidnappers belonged to the interior ministry, suggesting the incident might be the result of dissension within the country's security apparatus.

Later reports from the Reuters news agency said that the French agents had been handed over to an anti-government group after being abducted by a pro-government faction.

Reuters quoted Abdiqadir Odweyne, a senior police officer, as saying that two anti-government groups, Hizbul al-Islam and al-Shabab, which Western security services say is an al-Qaeda proxy, were arguing over the fate of the hostages.

"Al-Shabaab wants to take the Frenchmen from Hizbul [al-]Islam, they are on the verge of fighting," said Odweyne.

"Al-Shabab wants to kill the Frenchmen and Hizbul [al-]Islam refuses. The situation is not good."Security advisers

In a statement issued on Tuesday, the French foreign ministry said that the two abductees were on a mission to provide security assistance to the forces of Sharif Sheikh Ahmed, Somalia's president, whose administration controls only a limited area of Somalia.

Around 500 Somali forces are to be trained in Djibouti, home to France's largest overseas military base and the only US army base on the African continent.

The training, initially set to begin in September, was brought forward by one month due an escalation of violence in Somalia.

The two French agents are thought to have posed as journalists, which has outraged the few foreign correspondents in the region.

"If this is confirmed, it is shocking because these are official agents on a mission for the French government who have used the title of journalist as a cover," Jean-Francois Julliard, the head of Paris-based Reporters without Borders, said.

Only a few correspondents still travel to Somalia, employing dozens of security guards when they do.

[Twisted_Logic]

It is just a matter of when and not if that Hizb-ul-Islam and Al Shabab will fight. I am anxiously waiting

[hanqadh]

ITS ENEVITABLE that hizbul islam and shabab will fight, its just that now they have a mutual interest which is to defeat the goverment. however the goverment may be getting break by the looks of it, hassan dahir aweys looks to be willing to talk.

recently shabab and hizbul islam fought in afmadow, shabab was defeated, as they have no public support in jubooyinka like that of the hizbi.
they tried to assisinate sh.shmed madoobe returning from afgooye--- important ras kambooni leader and brother in law to turki.
their is also alot of fueding between them over the kismayo administration which the hizbi want to control.

hizbul islam are politically savvy unlike shababs....sharif should side with the hizbi, MMI and elements of the TFG to form something new.

[AR1223]

It is just a matter of when and not if that Hizb-ul-Islam and Al Shabab will fight. I am anxiously waiting

You're anxiously waiting for that 'cause all efforts by the TFG, Ethiopia, AU, UN, Europe and America to contain Al-Shabaab have failed?

[Kukri]

"Later reports from the Reuters news agency said that the French agents had been handed over to an anti-government group after being abducted by a pro-government faction."

WTF?

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

I will sit back ,take cold fanta,popcorn and enjoy the show when they fight
Hizbul islaam used to be weak in the beginning,now they are showing muscles by refusing every command from alsharbaab.
Also they are less coward than alsharbaab who hides their faces,and their leader dressing in burka clothes of every colour.

Axmed Godane: Ya Aba Xamza(his righthand) what should i wear today? the blue or the yellow burka.
Abu Xamza: O brave amiir may my father and mother be taken as ransom for you, you wore the blue burka yesterday. I advice you to wear yellow burka today.

[AR1223]

I will sit back ,take cold fanta,popcorn and enjoy the show when they fight
Hizbul islaam used to be weak in the beginning,now they are showing muscles by refusing every command from alsharbaab.
Also they are less coward than alsharbaab who hides their faces,and their leader dressing in burka clothes of every colour.

Have you lost faith in Ahlu Sunnah wal Jamaca? Have they failed you, and as a result placing your faith in Hizbul Islam?

[Kukri]

The Burka is also a disguise for homo'sexuals in Afghanistan!

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Iam still supporter of xarakatul ahlesunnah al mujahideen, we cannot ignore the fact that hizbul xasuuq is less extreme than alsharbaab. Hizbul is kursidoon while alsharbaab wants to rule the whole world(insanity!),the second this govt falls they and alsharbaab will fight over villa somalia.
If this would happen,if the govt falls i raher have hizbul xasuuq ruling somalia instead of their crazy cousins khawaarijta alsharbaab.

[AR1223]

Iam still supporter of xarakatul ahlesunnah al mujahideen, we cannot ignore the fact that hizbul xasuuq is less extreme than alsharbaab. Hizbul is kursidoon while alsharbaab wants to rule the whole world(insanity!),the second this govt falls they and alsharbaab will fight over villa somalia.
If this would happen,if the govt falls i raher have hizbul xasuuq ruling somalia instead of their crazy cousins khawaarijta alsharbaab.

If khawaarijta win and consolidate all power, will you support them?