Grand SNET Hawiye iyo Darood reconciliation summit

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Grand SNET Hawiye iyo Darood reconciliation summit

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pleas discuss

the relations between hawiye and darood and how we can come to reconciliation because I believe hawiye and darood do not have hate for one another in fact them are the fierced somaliwayne defenders

is the future of Somalia an alliance of darood and hawiye
Hawiye and darood are real movers and shakers of somali politics for the past 500 years

wallahi I believe hawiye even with their short comings in hamar are a true Somali gob because they guard somalinimo with their life

give me a hawiye over a idoor because, wallahi idoor would sell somalinimo in the flee market for bundle of qaat, and hawiye does not hold permanent animosity like the idoor do, you can fight a hawiye or darood and 5 minutes later you can have a cup tee together wallahi that’s is gobinimo

start the reconciliation admit the things that caused the rift and tell use also where credit is due
This is the grand Somalinet hawiye and darood reconciliation

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I believe the conflict between hawiye and darood is based on misunderstanding.

I deep down believe hawiye don’t hate darood like the idoors do wallahi I never met a hawiye that doubted daroods wadanimo and I never seen a darood person that ever doubted gen aided`s wadaninimo or hawiyes wadanimo

Darood

Hawiye


I want the heavyweight somalinet members involved and I wants the historians to record this

long live the true patriots of somalia darood iyo hawiye :som:

I here by open the summit by proclaiming:
ʾašhadu ʾanna laa ilāha illa Allāh, wa ʾašhadu ʾanna Muḥammad ur-rasūl Allāh

and I start the summit with:
Bismillāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm
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Re: Grand SNET Hawiye iyo Darood reconciliation summit

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who are you, and do you have a permit for that avatar?

this reconciliation is BS, because you are asking us to recognize a criminal clan leader who destroyed our country, as a patriote :lol:

and MSB aun was not a clan leader, so we as SADE could careless whether other Somalis reconize thier former President Siyaad Barre aun.


i hereby stamp this topic BS :hijack:
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A major disarmamenrt campaign needs to be established...too many weapons in the country. Then it will be easier for reconciliation.
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snoop12 wrote:who are you, and do you have a permit for that avatar?

this reconciliation is BS, because you are asking us to recognize a criminal clan leader who destroyed our country, as a patriote :lol:

and MSB aun was not a clan leader, so we as SADE could careless whether other Somalis reconize thier former President Siyaad Barre aun.


i hereby stamp this topic BS :hijack:
you right snoop this should not be soley a clan based talk but I also believe their needs be some qabiil involved but that should stay
in clan family level .
me as a ina darood ismael do not fear anybody and
I will face them any time anywhere, because am sure about my gobinimo which is self evident.
this is for the sake of somaliwayne and the future of our country

after this summit somaliwayne will depart from their refugee status and imbrace their god given brotherhood (1 nation, 1 religion,1 language 1 culture)
don`t undermind the summit snoop12, we don`t want to get the name of anti peace clan
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you fok

Siyaad Barre is not a Sade kaa bo Qabiil
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Re: Grand SNET Hawiye iyo Darood reconciliation summit

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Jebertigu waxay ghaadheen heer ay hawiyaha baryaaan ala reerkan maxa la ciilay :down:
issent there a hawiye president today and darod prime minister dee wax soo saaara :P
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Re: Grand SNET Hawiye iyo Darood reconciliation summit

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Empty slogans with hidden agenda
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snoop12 wrote:you fok

Siyaad Barre is not a Sade kaa bo Qabiil
well the perception that other people have is that the last governments domestic policies where Qabiil orientated, I don`t know why you get angery you have platform now to reject those claims and disprove them
and when people say siyaad barre they think darood(which one can object to why they think in that manner since he was the president of all Somalis)
but by keeping silent about perception that other people have of our late president or only taking credit of the good side of siyaad barre(aun) not only do you downgrade his legacy and his great accomplished for the Somali nation but you justify such a illegitimate claims
unless you confront people unfound perceptions of siad barre you inevitable justify peoples unfound and folk tale stories.
Today siad barres legacy is sourced by snm propaganda and other rebel groups propaganda.
So unless you clear the air of such unfound rumours people will will buy into the rumours and over time it will became unsubstantiated fact
just look the few linesonwikipedia about siad barre
was the President of Somalia from 1969 to 1991, and has been described as a dictator.
now who made him dictator because that is the label they alwayes but next to him and unless you discuss with people their unfound perception that is the info that the future genaration will know him about and that inturn will hinder hawiye darood relations because people think siad barre was bad for hawiye which in the scheme of things is ridicules because siad barre was a equal opportunity kind of guy to all peoples( not dimissing the actual things that he did)



I understand where you coming from, you are saying don`t bring the late president into the low poltics of qabiil because he represent bigger than that, yeah I can agree with that but the reality is that its in those watert he has been placed. the majority of the somali people know siad barre by the legacy that his enemies told about him and unless you drain those deluded waters the years of propaganda will be irriversable and it will spill over to the next genaration and today the perception,conflicts ,misunderstanding are found in the dulled waters of the past which qabil is major factor and siad barre weather wrongly or righty is put in that section to.
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This nur mujahid guy is a hawiye in disguise :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
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Dont worry cos hawiye and reconciliation is not compartible.

today they are sandwiched btw Sharif Dameer and the other opposing groups and they are today fleeing in large numbers and flooding refugee camps in Kenya.
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sadeboi wrote:This nur mujahid guy is a hawiye in disguise :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
you have bigger enemies than hawiye you donut.
your constant clan originated mind can not comprehend that maybe....you need to see the bigger picture in the scheme of things and stop for a minute and see after following the road for the past 20years you have gained notting but mind thats narrower and a constant trip on a road that only takes in you in a circle around the roundabout of anarchy, poverty and disease
Your uncompromising attitude of self rightness is the fountain that keeps bad relations between people alive.

I have more problems with the isaaq than I have with hawiye and that is fact.
The geopolitical dynamics of the 90`s have changed hawiye does not posse threat to darood, the treat is coming from north west Somali where the Ethiopians have a permanent base inside the Somali territory.
Hawiye and darood do not pose a treat to each other .their fight in t past has been mutual distructive to them, and the fall of Somali state made Somaliland and the burning of hamar made hergeisa light up and unknowingly and by erroneous miscalculation both the darood and hawiye clan families have empowered our real enemies when we both put down our security and strategic guard and fought each over what?

We both face external and internal treats.
we both face the fractionation of our beloved somaliWayne dream and we both face invasion from hostile entities like ethopia, al quada and multinational corporations
We both face a direct treat to our religious way of life by the alquada twins
We both reject the Somaliland entity
both the darood and hawiye gave ethopia a permenent strategic lifeline called Somaliland

they both have ever nearing enemies that is coming from west called Ethiopia & co ,who have found a foothold in north west Somalia mainly in the land of the isaaq

hawiye and darood do not hate each other that is one of the myths created out of the civil war, there is no "hate" beween hawiye and darood don`t creat unfounded rumors that will become fact in the future, yes their are predijuces but refrain from using the word hate.


Hawiye and darood have almost identical interest which rightly used can form atleast a base for mutual understand and form a future staringting point.

the destruction of Somalia into fiefdoms will create the environment that will make us natural enemies and that is based on facts and its backed up by the laws of geo-politics and it would give Ethiopia definite Hegemony over the entire land of the Somalis
Darood hawiye and somaliwayne can not aford a alliance between hawiye and isaaq because the ideas of the isaaq are destructive hence such alliance
would be the end Somalia unknowingly
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Re: Grand SNET Hawiye iyo Darood reconciliation summit

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sadeboi wrote:This nur mujahid guy is a hawiye in disguise :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

they are looking for forgiveness :lol:
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