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The probability of military intervention in Somalia.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:55 pm
by Ghazi
First, I'd like to congratulate the blessed Shabab on their recent actions enforcing Sharia. An example to the Muslim world and a clear message to the servants of Shaytaan.

Excellent policy. The institution of a complete Sharia system for the first time since the collapse of the Taliban administration is becoming reality. The pleasure of our Lord is imminent.

Al-Shabab are fast instituting the only truly Islamic country in the world. For all the West's bravado, the recent meeting proved without a shadow of a doubt that all the US has up it's sleeve is empty threats.

Strategically they have nothing to gain entering Somalia. One of the primary platforms which catapulted Obama to success was his relative "peaceful" strategy in comparison to McCain and his predecessor, Bush. Public sentiment will be against him if he enters another war akin to the Jihad currently taking place in sanctified Khorasan.

The terrain of Somalia is similar enough to Afghanistan's that drone attacks will be of no real use (I recall an official document from Langley admitting this, from the crusaders themselves), especially since so much of Somalia has been undisturbed for as long as can be remembered, providing the noble Mujahideen with plenty of space to carry out their strategies.

It's indisputable that the US will not invade themselves, but the possibility of sending their vassal state in the Horn, Ethiopia while not high, is still an option for them, although recent events indicate it will not happen. Ethiopia lost 37,000 troops in their last brief foray into the exalted land of Somaal, against a more divided and in most aspects notably weaker ICU, an attack against Al-Shabab would be folly, particularly with dissent growing against the Woyane government.

The Al-Shabab coffers, contrary to popular belief and skewed media reports are not, and will not come close to running dry, as long as America still purchases oil from the Khaleej and weapons are available from our allies in the Horn of Africa, Eritrea.

Now, having proven the capability for advanced warfare is there, we must prove manpower is too. The youth of Somalia are no strangers to battle, they are not fearful of the gun and they are not fearful of being martyred. As the US is continually embarrassed by our brothers in Afghanistan and Pakistan, the need for soldiers there diminishes and as Somalia increases in importance, the need for Mujahideen there increases. Brothers from every corner of the Muslim world are willing to fight in Somalia, making the numbers available essentially infinite.

Take into account the obvious weakness of the Transitional Federal Government and it's obvious to the objective reader that it's only a matter of time until Somalia is under Shabab's control, making the our ideal of a re-established Caliphate, not a dream, but a reality.

Re: The probability of military intervention in Somalia.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:01 pm
by Khalid Ali
sharia will never work in somalia :down:

Re: The probability of military intervention in Somalia.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:02 pm
by FAH1223
Bro, I'd support Shabaab if they showed more wisdom and proved they could govern. I don't think they should be focusing on gold teeth when there are issues such as poverty and infrastructure repairs that need to be done for the betterment of the people. Its good they are not like the warlords, its good they dont loot or rape with their forces as we saw during the mooryan era.

But when is the FIGHTING going to stop? Have you ever thought maybe just maybe the Somali people are SICK of war?

One saga to another, the civil war rages from qabyalaad to now wadaad isku sheeg running around calling others gaal, murtad, ect. Its never ending.

Khalid, stfu nicca...Sharia is good

Re: The probability of military intervention in Somalia.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:04 pm
by Khalid Ali
Whether it good or not its not the question the fact is it won’t work in Somalia that’s all.

Re: The probability of military intervention in Somalia.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:06 pm
by American-Suufi
alshabab means=300 years of wars from now on. bomb them out of existance.

if they see a battalion of ethiopian soldiers they will run to the jungle. they r only good @ fighting somalis.

Re: The probability of military intervention in Somalia.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:10 pm
by Ghazi
FAH1223 wrote:Bro, I'd support Shabaab if they showed more wisdom and proved they could govern. I don't think they should be focusing on gold teeth when there are issues such as poverty and infrastructure repairs that need to be done for the betterment of the people. Its good they are not like the warlords, its good they dont loot or rape with their forces as we saw during the mooryan era.

But when is the FIGHTING going to stop? Have you ever thought maybe just maybe the Somali people are SICK of war?

One saga to another, the civil war rages from qabyalaad to now wadaad isku sheeg running around calling others gaal, murtad, ect. Its never ending.

Khalid, stfu nicca...Sharia is good
How have they proved incapable of governing?

In case you are unaware, there is incontrovertible proof that the economy of Kismayo has been booming under the rule of Shabab, they haven't shown themselves to be unefficient in a single department of as yet.

They have done their best to build the infrastructure, paving roads has already begun.

The war will be over when one faction is dominant, as of now it looks to be Shabab. AS long as no Western intervention comes along, peace will come across, by the Quran and if people refuse to listen by the gun.

Re: The probability of military intervention in Somalia.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:11 pm
by Ghazi
American-Suufi wrote:alshabab means=300 years of wars from now on. bomb them out of existance.

if they see a battalion of ethiopian soldiers they will run to the jungle. they r only good @ fighting somalis.
Are you forgetting 37,000 Ethiopian troops were killed in their last foray?

If Ethiopia was effective, how could an even more powerful movement be established just months after they left?

Re: The probability of military intervention in Somalia.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:13 pm
by FAH1223
khalid ali wrote:Whether it good or not its not the question the fact is it won’t work in Somalia that’s all.
if you have something against Sharia, say it nicca

Ghazi, you didn't answer a big question... when will fighting stop in Somalia?

The world will fight Shabaab like the Taliban... Somalia will continue to be a place of misery

Re: The probability of military intervention in Somalia.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:13 pm
by Ghazi
khalid ali wrote:sharia will never work in somalia :down:
Are you forgetting 2006?

Sharia is the only method which has worked in Somalia.

Re: The probability of military intervention in Somalia.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:14 pm
by American-Suufi
Ghazi wrote:
American-Suufi wrote:alshabab means=300 years of wars from now on. bomb them out of existance.

if they see a battalion of ethiopian soldiers they will run to the jungle. they r only good @ fighting somalis.
Are you forgetting 37,000 Ethiopian troops were killed in their last foray?

If Ethiopia was effective, how could an even more powerful movement be established just months after they left?
zoomalis r nomadic illiterates. they like killing each other and dying of human-made hunger rather than getting help from friends. somalis die now at a rate of flies die in maurantania.

Re: The probability of military intervention in Somalia.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:16 pm
by Ghazi
American-Suufi wrote:
Ghazi wrote:
American-Suufi wrote:alshabab means=300 years of wars from now on. bomb them out of existance.

if they see a battalion of ethiopian soldiers they will run to the jungle. they r only good @ fighting somalis.
Are you forgetting 37,000 Ethiopian troops were killed in their last foray?

If Ethiopia was effective, how could an even more powerful movement be established just months after they left?
zoomalis r nomadic illiterates. they like killing each other and dying of human-made hunger rather than getting help from friends. somalis die now at a rate of flies die in maurantania.
Disparaging remarks towards your own people? Is that what Shabab's detractors have been reduced too?

You have sanctuary in the West, Somalia is none of your concern. I doubt it matters to you if you'll make statements like this.

Also, mind providing statistics proving your last point?

Re: The probability of military intervention in Somalia.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:16 pm
by FAH1223
Ghazi wrote:
American-Suufi wrote:alshabab means=300 years of wars from now on. bomb them out of existance.

if they see a battalion of ethiopian soldiers they will run to the jungle. they r only good @ fighting somalis.
Are you forgetting 37,000 Ethiopian troops were killed in their last foray?

If Ethiopia was effective, how could an even more powerful movement be established just months after they left?
it was 3,000

Re: The probability of military intervention in Somalia.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:18 pm
by American-Suufi
Ghazi wrote: zoomalis r nomadic illiterates. they like killing each other and dying of human-made hunger rather than getting help from friends. somalis die now at a rate of flies die in maurantania.
Disparaging remarks towards your own people? Is that what Shabab's detractors have been reduced too?

You have sanctuary in the West, Somalia is none of your concern. I doubt it matters to you if you'll make statements like this.

Also, mind providing statistics proving your last point?[/quote]

zoomalia is cursed by allah swt. alshabab r khawaarijs destroying a weak and humilialated people.

Re: The probability of military intervention in Somalia.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:20 pm
by Ghazi
FAH1223 wrote:
Ghazi wrote:
American-Suufi wrote:alshabab means=300 years of wars from now on. bomb them out of existance.

if they see a battalion of ethiopian soldiers they will run to the jungle. they r only good @ fighting somalis.
Are you forgetting 37,000 Ethiopian troops were killed in their last foray?

If Ethiopia was effective, how could an even more powerful movement be established just months after they left?
it was 3,000
Untrue.

Re: The probability of military intervention in Somalia.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:21 pm
by FAH1223
Ghazi wrote:
Untrue.
Arabman, quit lying. 37,000 troops killed by a ragtag militia that doesn't even surpass 10,000?

get outta here