It’s good to trust.” Somalia, June 2009.

[Enemy_Of_Mad_Mullah]

http://www.caparkinson.com/2009/07/its- ... june-2009/

I’d expected someone terrifying, clutching a Kalashnikov and festooned with grenades. He was friendly and made jokes. I liked him, he seemed like a human being.

[Arsenal_Man]

nigga on the left looks like crackhead with dem cracked teeth and tucked in socks

[The Nomad]

"they, like most Somalis, are Sufi Muslims"

What? All Somalis are Sunni. Sufis don't even exist in Somalia. Ahlu Sunnah aren't even Sufi. They only fight Shabab because of clan politics and Ethiopian interference, not religious doctrine.

[James Dahl]

"they, like most Somalis, are Sufi Muslims"

What? Like 99% of Somalis are Sunni. Sufis don't even exist in Somalia. Ahlu Sunnah aren't even Sufi. They only fight Shabab because of clan politics and Ethiopian interference, not religious doctrine.

The term 'Sufi' as he uses it is sort of a misnomer, there's no such thing as a Sufi religion, Sufism is a philosophy, not a religious sect.
That said, Sufi philosophy is a major part of traditional Somali islam, so he's correct in saying most Somalis are Sufi but incorrect in saying this makes them unorthodox Muslims.

[The Nomad]

"they, like most Somalis, are Sufi Muslims"

What? Like 99% of Somalis are Sunni. Sufis don't even exist in Somalia. Ahlu Sunnah aren't even Sufi. They only fight Shabab because of clan politics and Ethiopian interference, not religious doctrine.

The term 'Sufi' as he uses it is sort of a misnomer, there's no such thing as a Sufi religion, Sufism is a philosophy, not a religious sect.
That said, Sufi philosophy is a major part of traditional Somali islam, so he's correct in saying most Somalis are Sufi but incorrect in saying this makes them unorthodox Muslims.

It's a sect, just like Shia'ism is a sect. Followers of Sufism are off the manhaj and in cases of extreme dhikr and bid'ah out of the fold of Islam.

Sufi philosophy has had no noticeable impact on Somali Islam. The cultural practices (mainly restricted to the South) not found in Arab/Islamic culture are from their Oromo past and a lot of these (grave worship for example) are found in the Oromo Waaq pagan religion.

[James Dahl]

"they, like most Somalis, are Sufi Muslims"

What? Like 99% of Somalis are Sunni. Sufis don't even exist in Somalia. Ahlu Sunnah aren't even Sufi. They only fight Shabab because of clan politics and Ethiopian interference, not religious doctrine.

The term 'Sufi' as he uses it is sort of a misnomer, there's no such thing as a Sufi religion, Sufism is a philosophy, not a religious sect.
That said, Sufi philosophy is a major part of traditional Somali islam, so he's correct in saying most Somalis are Sufi but incorrect in saying this makes them unorthodox Muslims.

It's a sect, just like Shia'ism is a sect. Followers of Sufism are off the manhaj and in cases of extreme dhikr and bid'ah out of the fold of Islam.

Sufi philosophy has had no noticeable impact on Somali Islam. The cultural practices (mainly restricted to the South) not found in Arab culture are from their Oromo past and a lot of these (grave worship for example) are found in the Oromo Waaq pagan religion.

No impact? What about Siyad Maxamed Cabdulle Xasan? What about Sheikh Xusseyn of Bale? There are no such things as grave veneration in Oromo religious practices.

[The Nomad]

The term 'Sufi' as he uses it is sort of a misnomer, there's no such thing as a Sufi religion, Sufism is a philosophy, not a religious sect.
That said, Sufi philosophy is a major part of traditional Somali islam, so he's correct in saying most Somalis are Sufi but incorrect in saying this makes them unorthodox Muslims.

It's a sect, just like Shia'ism is a sect. Followers of Sufism are off the manhaj and in cases of extreme dhikr and bid'ah out of the fold of Islam.

Sufi philosophy has had no noticeable impact on Somali Islam. The cultural practices (mainly restricted to the South) not found in Arab culture are from their Oromo past and a lot of these (grave worship for example) are found in the Oromo Waaq pagan religion.

No impact? What about Siyad Maxamed Cabdulle Xasan? What about Sheikh Xusseyn of Bale? There are no such things as grave veneration in Oromo religious practices.

There is. They worship graves. I've studied the Galla religion.

They're not Sufis in the conventional sense.