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Jamie Oliver has traced his roots back to Africa.....

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Jamie Oliver has traced his roots back to Africa and discovered that he is sixth-generation Sudanese.

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He definitely has some Arab blood in him.
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I'm not suprised.

The london mayor's ancestors are Turkish (from his father's side)
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:roll: ...Yeah and my mama was the 4th generation of Jane Austen! :roll:
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6 generations is 200 years ago, I wonder how they got to England?
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James Dahl wrote:6 generations is 200 years ago, I wonder how they got to England?
Brits colonized that area in the 19th century
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Aseelah-Raaida wrote:I'm not suprised.

The london mayor's ancestors are Turkish (from his father's side)
his great grandfather was Minister of the Interior the Ottoman Empire,,his name was Ali kamal,,
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SO?
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James Dahl wrote:6 generations is 200 years ago, I wonder how they got to England?
FAH is a bit off, the Brits didn't fully colonize Sudan until 1896 and probably didn't begin to import Sudanese until World War 2.

The Sudanese (assuming Arab-Sudan) weren't savage isolated tribes 200 years ago nor 2000 years ago. Seeing as Sudan was one of the earliest areas to come into contact with the Muslim world, and also seeing how pre-Islamic generations had contact with the Romans and various Egyptian dynasties, its not hard to see how these people might've traveled to other parts of the world and England being one of them.
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Re: Jamie Oliver has traced his roots back to Africa.....

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This is a load of bull, Jamie Oliver has to be the whitest man that ever lived, he's just saying this for attention
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paidmonk wrote:
James Dahl wrote:6 generations is 200 years ago, I wonder how they got to England?
FAH is a bit off, the Brits didn't fully colonize Sudan until 1896 and probably didn't begin to import Sudanese until World War 2.

The Sudanese (assuming Arab-Sudan) weren't savage isolated tribes 200 years ago nor 2000 years ago. Seeing as Sudan was one of the earliest areas to come into contact with the Muslim world, and also seeing how pre-Islamic generations had contact with the Romans and various Egyptian dynasties, its not hard to see how these people might've traveled to other parts of the world and England being one of them.
200 years ago people didn't really travel very far though, I mean in 1800 the sail was still the peak of technological sophistication, there was no Suez Canal, and to travel to Sudan you either went up the Nile (which at the time was a rather dangerous journey) or spent 6 months sailing around via the Cape of Good Hope. In 1800 as well there was no such thing as Sudan, there was the Funj Sultanate, the Beja confederations and the kingdom of Darfur. Also back then in Africa and in Europe as well it was the era of feudalism, where you were not so much a citizen as the property of the monarch.
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Re: Jamie Oliver has traced his roots back to Africa.....

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James, when I say Sudan I mean the general area of modern Sudan. And absolutely there was travel 200 years ago. If travel from England to Gaza was possible during the Crusades, what makes you think things got more difficult in 1800. His Sudanese ancestor may not have been directly from Sudan as I said, this could've been a Sudanese civil servant or slave in other parts of the world, such as the Ottoman empire (via Egypt). We also have to look at Egypt, home to many Sudanese for multiple millennia, they could've traveled with Napoleon's expedition. There is no limit to the number of trekking ideas here, people have been going far distances for many years; the Vandal (germanic) conquest of north Africa two thousand years ago is one point of that in history.


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Firstly, we are talking about NORTH Sudanese mixture, people like Bedouin Arabs, Nubian Arabs, Rashaida Arabs, and Beja nomads. They are just like Somalis, they don't have strong African features and their genes disappear easily too. After one generation a half-White kid will lose almost all his Somali features and over 6 generations this kid will look Whiter than Heidi Klum. I've seen kids with Black fathers and White mothers who had freckles, olive skin, and brown hair, imagine how their kids will look if they marry a White person.

Below are photos of Jaime, then samples of northern Sudanese people.


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That kid is cute mashallah but that last lady looked scary
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