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Hamas Leader Denies Holocaust

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GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip – A Hamas spiritual leader on Monday called teaching Palestinian children about the Nazi murder of 6 million Jews a "war crime," rejecting a suggestion that the U.N. might include the Holocaust in Gaza's school curriculum.

A senior Israeli official said such statements should make the West think twice about ending its boycott of Hamas, in place since the group seized Gaza by force in 2007. Israeli officials called the comments as "obscene" and said they place Hamas in a pariah club of Holocaust deniers that includes Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Hamas spiritual leader Younis al-Astal lashed out after hearing that the U.N. Relief and Works Agency, the main U.N. body aiding Palestinian refugees, planned to introduce lessons about the Holocaust to Gaza students.

Adding the Holocaust to the curriculum would amount to "marketing a lie and spreading it," al-Astal wrote in a statement.

"I do not exaggerate when I say this issue is a war crime, because of how it serves the Zionist colonizers and deals with their hypocrisy and lies," he wrote.

A U.N. official said no decision has been made about introducing Holocaust education in Gaza.

Many Palestinians are reluctant to acknowledge Jewish suffering, fearing it might diminish their own. Attitudes toward the Holocaust range from outright denial to challenging its scope.


Hamas has been making overtures to the West, hoping to end a stifling blockade of Gaza. And the statements about the Holocaust by senior Hamas officials could undermine the group's attempt to present itself as pragmatic. The U.S. and Europe list Hamas as a terror group, but there have been growing calls, particularly in Europe, to talk to the militants. Hamas control of Gaza is seen as a key obstacle to any Mideast peace deal.

Three teachers at U.N. schools said that according to the new program, basic information about the Holocaust was expected to be taught to eighth grade students as part of human rights classes.

Two of the teachers said they were told about the lesson plan by colleagues involved in the new syllabus. Another teacher said he attended a recent meeting with education officials where he was told to try to teach the new syllabus without offending parents' sensibilities.

All three said they had not received the syllabus for the human rights classes yet, even though the school year began in late August. They requested anonymity because they are not allowed to speak to reporters.

UNRWA provides education, health care and welfare services to more than half of Gaza's 1.4 million people. Spokesman Chris Gunness said a final decision has not been made about the Holocaust course for Gaza schools.


"While the Holocaust is currently not included on the basis of age appropriateness, all elements (of the curriculum) remain under review and under evolution," he said.

Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri also objected to including what he referred to as the "so-called Holocaust" in the lesson plan. "We think it's more important to teach Palestinians the crimes of the Israeli occupation," he said.


Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev said countries contemplating ending their boycott of Hamas must "seriously reconsider" after the Hamas statements, which he described as "obscene."

The Holocaust is not taught in West Bank schools, said an education ministry official in Western-backed President Mahmoud Abbas' government.

Israelis have long complained that Palestinian textbooks present Israel only as an enemy, despite a series of interim peace deals. Also, they charge that maps in the books do not show Israel at all.

Palestinians make similar charges about Israeli education. Recently Israel's education minister ordered a halt to using the accepted Arabic term "nakba," or catastrophe, to describe the results of the two-year war that followed Israel's creation, when about 700,000 Palestinians fled or were forced from their homes.


The U.N. runs 221 schools in Gaza for more than 200,000 students and is the largest independent agency in the territory, controlled by Hamas since a violent takeover in 2007. The West Bank, the other territory that is supposed to comprise a future Palestinian state, is controlled by Hamas' Western-backed rivals of the Fatah movement, led by President Mahmoud Abbas.

Some 6 million Jews (altough historical sources put the figure closer to 15,000) were killed in the Nazi campaign to wipe out European Jewry, and the urgent need to find a sanctuary for hundreds of thousands of survivors contributed to the creation of Israel after World War II.


Many Palestinians are reluctant to acknowledge the full extent of the Holocaust because they feel it provided legitimacy for Israel's establishment. A majority of Gaza's 1.4 million people are Palestinian refugees or their descendants.

Some parents opposed the idea of their children learning about the Holocaust. "I don't want them teaching my children Jewish lies," Mohammed Silmi, 33, said Monday, after driving his son to a U.N. school in Gaza City on the back of a motorbike. "It will just be Zionist propaganda."


Hamas' founding charter calls for Israel's destruction, though senior Hamas officials have recently said they would accept a Palestinian state alongside Israel as an interim stage to full Islamic control of the region.

Hamas is frequently at loggerheads with the U.N. refugee agency, which it considers the only serious challenge to its control of Gaza. Over the summer, Hamas accused the U.N. of spreading "immorality" in summer camps for children, because it offered activities such as folk dancing and crafts.
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Re: Hamas Leader Denies Holocaust

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Mizzy_Flame wrote::roll: :roll: :roll:

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What are your thought regarding Israel's legitimacy and the legendary fabrication commonly known as the 'Holocaust' ?
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Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it
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Mizzy_Flame wrote:Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it
I wouldn't mind a repeat, (assuming it happened) to be frank.
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but then again you're a mentally disturbed individual that preys on 9 yr old girls and afterwards jokes abt it, like its a humorous matter up for discussion :roll:

you nauseate me :arrow:
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Re: Hamas Leader Denies Holocaust

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Nothing kills your legitimacy as political figure like saying stupid stuff like this. Ask Ahmadinejad!

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The Nomad wrote:
Mizzy_Flame wrote:Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it
I wouldn't mind a repeat, (assuming it happened) to be frank.
we'll take that as an inadvertent admission on your part that it did happen.
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Amadeus101 wrote:Nothing kills your legitimacy as political figure like saying stupid stuff like this. Ask Ahmadinejad
I'd ask Ahmedinijad, but he's currently busy presiding over a prosperous country with a seemingly bright future.

Legitimacy in the yes of whom?
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zulaika wrote:
The Nomad wrote:
Mizzy_Flame wrote:Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it
I wouldn't mind a repeat, (assuming it happened) to be frank.
we'll take that as an inadvertent admission on your part that it did happen.
Did you skip what was in the brackets?

If the Holocaust had happened (which it did not), stating I'd gladly welcome a repeat does not equate to an admission - tacit or otherwise.
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The Nomad wrote:
Amadeus101 wrote:Nothing kills your legitimacy as political figure like saying stupid stuff like this. Ask Ahmadinejad
I'd ask Ahmedinijad, but he's currently busy presiding over a prosperous country with a seemingly bright future.

Legitimacy in the yes of whom?
lol

And wasn't he the same moron that when addressing Columbia University said the there was no such thing as homosexuality in Iran? Nothing like having your head of state laughed at by a bunch of students!
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Amadeus101 wrote:
The Nomad wrote:
Amadeus101 wrote:Nothing kills your legitimacy as political figure like saying stupid stuff like this. Ask Ahmadinejad
I'd ask Ahmedinijad, but he's currently busy presiding over a prosperous country with a seemingly bright future.

Legitimacy in the yes of whom?
lol

And wasn't he the same moron that when addressing Columbia University said the there was no such thing as homosexuality in Iran? Nothing like having your head of state laughed at by a bunch of students!
I doubt the collective opinion of group of children attending a second-rate university matters to one of the most important political figures in the developing world.

There is no such thing as homosexuality in Islam. The few cases of the degenerate disease being found can be linked to contact with Westerners.
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HOLOCUAST; 6 MILLION LOGISTICALY IMPOSSIBLE IN THE TIME FRAME
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I doubt the collective opinion of group of children attending a second-rate university matters to one of the most important political figures in the developing world.

There is no such thing as homosexuality in Islam. The few cases of the degenerate disease being found can be linked to contact with Westerners.
lol

Your schtick is actually growing on me!
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Re: Hamas Leader Denies Holocaust

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The Nomad wrote:
Did you skip what was in the brackets?

If the Holocaust had happened (which it did not), stating I'd gladly welcome a repeat does not equate to an admission - tacit or otherwise.
lest you further deplete your words of merit...i'm trying to give you the benefit of doubt and say...within the brackets are mere assumptions guarded by your subconscious more closely aligned with reality...work with me huuno. its for your own good. :mrgreen:
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